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#226 2009-04-14 9:33 pm

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That was hilarious!

"Why the Austrian accent? 'Cause it's hot!"


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#227 2009-04-15 1:43 pm

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"I need to show you something..."

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"This body..."

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"Get on top of me..."

eek eek

"Reach down.. under the breast plate..."

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The prison escape sequence was awesome.

I have a question though. Obviously the time travel field only lets flesh through and destroys clothes. But what about Catherine Weaver, who is neither human, nor wearing clothes. Why did she lost her "clothes"? She wasn't wearing any! She's basically Odo. Her clothes are an extension of her body which is just a soup of liquid metal. And how did she get through but Cameron did not? Am I missing something completely?

Also, I love John Henry. He fast became my favorite character aside from Cameron.

So, at the end when the guys didn't know who John Connor was, were they joking, or did he go forward to a time before John was the big guy then? In other words, did they just create that timeline in which John becomes the leader?


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#228 2009-04-15 3:18 pm

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Why did she lost her "clothes"?

Same thing in Terminator 2 - they were being consistent with that movie.


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#229 2009-04-15 7:38 pm

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Re: Terminator: The Summer Glau in her Underwear Chronicles

No. Arnold was a solid robot Terminator that actually NEEDED clothes.

Weaver is a T-1000 style liquid robot. She doesn't wear clothes. At all. She's a changeling. Like Odo on Deep Space Nine she simply changes her body to look like clothing. There's really no reason she would have lost anything in the trip. In fact, making her keep her "clothes" would have been more consistent with logic.


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#230 2009-04-15 8:29 pm

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Maybe Cameron told her the best way to mend the human/machine rift is to let John see her naughty bits.


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#231 2009-04-15 8:35 pm

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Jasoco wrote:

No. Arnold was a solid robot Terminator that actually NEEDED clothes.

Weaver is a T-1000 style liquid robot. She doesn't wear clothes. At all. She's a changeling. Like Odo on Deep Space Nine she simply changes her body to look like clothing. There's really no reason she would have lost anything in the trip. In fact, making her keep her "clothes" would have been more consistent with logic.

Well yeah - considering she morphed to protect them, the clothes she was wearing wasn't real.
I'm pretty sure the liquid metal terminator in T2 also came through as naked flesh though - even before taking on the persona of the first cop he killed.


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#232 2009-04-15 10:28 pm

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It was interesting that Weaver's pet eel turned out to be a part of her. I guess maybe she kept it separate as a form of back-up, both in terms of muscle and information.


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#233 2009-04-16 1:39 am

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resedit wrote:

Jasoco wrote:

No. Arnold was a solid robot Terminator that actually NEEDED clothes.

Weaver is a T-1000 style liquid robot. She doesn't wear clothes. At all. She's a changeling. Like Odo on Deep Space Nine she simply changes her body to look like clothing. There's really no reason she would have lost anything in the trip. In fact, making her keep her "clothes" would have been more consistent with logic.

Well yeah - considering she morphed to protect them, the clothes she was wearing wasn't real.
I'm pretty sure the liquid metal terminator in T2 also came through as naked flesh though - even before taking on the persona of the first cop he killed.

I haven't seen T2 in years, but did he steal the cops clothing? If so, then the writers created a huge hole in the logic of the franchise that I had hoped the show would have fixed. But they didn't.

Also I was hoping Cameron would go through again as well for this very reason. cool


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#234 2009-04-16 1:41 am

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It was interesting that Weaver's pet eel turned out to be a part of her. I guess maybe she kept it separate as a form of back-up, both in terms of muscle and information.

Huh - I must have missed that.
I just finished Season 1 (and watched T1 and T2 the day before) and am getting ready to watch Season 2 again.

There seems to be a problem with the timeline.

Two places in Season 1 - the events of Terminator 2 are indicated as being 1997.
However, if I correctly recall, Judgment Day was 1997 but the events in T2 were suppose to be about 3 years before JD - as the Terminator explained that Dyson invented the chip and 3 years later skynet became self aware.

That would put the events of T2 at about 1994 - when John was 10.
I'll have to watch T2 again and see.


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#235 2009-04-16 1:43 am

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We know Terminator 2: Judgment Day happened in 1995. In the opening narration (of Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines) John Connor says that he was attacked by the T-1000 when he was 13 years old. This is an inconsistency. In Terminator 2: Judgment Day, John Connor was only 10 years old, as shown on the police computer when the T-1000 accesses it.

http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline


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#236 2009-04-16 1:47 am

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We really shouldn't argue the logic of the Terminator timeline.

We should be talking about naked Cameron.

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#237 2009-04-16 6:54 am

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I haven't seen T2 in years, but did he steal the cops clothing? If so, then the writers created a huge hole in the logic of the franchise that I had hoped the show would have fixed. But they didn't.

The T1000 is a mimetic polyalloy. All he has to do is sample something by touch and he can mimic its appearance.

'Mimetic' as in mime, mimic. Late in the movie, after damage, he begans to lose control somewhat and starts mimicking on contact- as when his hand is on a railing and his arm looks like OSHA safety tape.


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#238 2009-04-16 9:01 pm

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Unless I'm mistaken, that loss of control is only seen in the various special editions of the film, yes?


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#239 2009-04-16 11:00 pm

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I think it's in all, tho there may be more in the director's cut. IIRC it was that way in the theater, certainly some parts were- feet molding to the stairs, sticking to railings, 'rippling' after one fight. All after the 'hasta la vista' freezing/shattering.

Reminds me, I need to look at some of the Extreme Ed., with both regular and WMV HD discs. I've never seen the latter, but I can probably copy parts to a HDD and sample the quality.


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#240 2009-04-16 11:36 pm

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Bren wrote:

Unless I'm mistaken, that loss of control is only seen in the various special editions of the film, yes?

The SE is what I have for T2 so I don't know.
I guess I could watch the theatrical version - but it's on the disk as well.


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#241 2009-04-17 9:02 am

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I once dropped acid and watched T2 on HBO. I'd expected all the liquid metal effects to be super cool, but it wasn't all that great.

Unfortunately, they showed The Handmaid's Tale next, and then Steel Magnolias after that. Both were enormously depressing. Then the sun came up and I had to go to work. That really sucked.


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#242 2009-04-27 1:56 am

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B.S. wrote:

I forgot the most important question.
Why did Weaver send them into the future?

To find John Henry

And why was Sarah and John OK with that? Did I miss something?

Weaver clearly did not want to kill John.
Sarah knows she is going to die from Cancer, Weaver can protect him in the future better than she can in the present, especially since the FBI now knows to hunt for them again.


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#243 2009-04-27 1:57 am

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matt wrote:

If John Connor went to the future rather than having grown into it, then maybe the Kyle Reese he sends back wouldn't have that picture.

except in the series, they made a point of John finding the picture and keeping it.


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#244 2009-04-27 2:09 am

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Just finished watching Season 2 again - I can better answer now:

B.S. wrote:

Alright, so these are the questions I have about the finale (be it season 2 or series):

Why did the drone crash into the building? Didn't Weaver build that thing? Did it not have any weapons? How did it know they were all there? Why didn't it just crash into all of them when it came out of the swamp?

Weaver did not build it. The series gave the impression she was building skynet until the last episode, but her company is different from the company where she killed everyone and she did not build the drone.

Also - at the end of the funeral episode, the town chick who resembles Selma Blair - her creepy bearded dad (who didn't really die) loads the drone into a tractor trailer.

As far as why it didn't have weapons - I'm guessing it does, but crashing into the building was probably more effective. Kind of like flying a plane into a boat in WW2.

How it knew they were there - the target was probably weaver. When skynet probed John Henry, you hear him asking his purpose and then saying it understands. It knows Weaver is building John Henry to fight Skynet. With Sarah Connor breaking out of the prison, it knew there was a good chance Weaver was working with the Conners, and that was a logical place for Sarah to hide after breaking out (the FBI would never suspect the "kidnap victim's" mother would hide Sarah) so that's where it struck - take out Weaver and the Connors at the same time. I don't think it knew Weaver was a liquid metal bitch.

Coming out of the swamp, it didn't identify them and had no reason to terminate them.

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#245 2009-04-27 6:45 pm

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The drones continue to plague our skies!


http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread456076/pg1

By the way, if you happen to actually read through that thread, I'm the saucer kook calling himself "Flightsuit."


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#246 2009-04-27 8:06 pm

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I just saw the last episode. CANCELLED?

Those stupid Fox smurfs.

I don't think I'm going to bother investing any effort into another series from Fox.


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#247 2009-04-28 2:19 am

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I just saw the last episode. CANCELLED?

Those stupid Fox smurfs.

I don't think I'm going to bother investing any effort into another series from Fox.

Did they make enough episodes for syndication? It'll likely make more money on the back end, that way &/or from DVD sales than it ever brought in in ad revenues.

The Simpsons aside (perhaps as something to the contrary to point to or as a prestige, marquee show), I've a hunch that's the whole point of Fox programming.


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#248 2009-04-28 6:19 am

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The whole 3 dots tangent was a little weird and IMHO really missed the mark - but the rest of the series rocked.
I hope someone (sci fi channel maybe ??) buys the rights to the series and makes a season 3.


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#249 2009-04-28 9:58 am

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resedit wrote:

The whole 3 dots tangent was a little weird and IMHO really missed the mark - but the rest of the series rocked.
I hope someone (sci fi channel maybe ??) buys the rights to the series and makes a season 3.

They probably would have explained it in Season 3. But it seems pretty obvious that basically, the 3-dot people were working for the actual Skynet, in its infancy. John Henry was created by somebody else sent back to stop Skynet by creating another one, but with ethics.

I, however, would rather not have a third season, than have one made to the Scyfy channel's exacting *cough* quality standards.


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#250 2009-04-28 1:45 pm

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Yes - the plant she ended up at was skynet.

The whole 3 dot thing though, seeing the stuff in her dreams, etc. was still pretty lame.


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