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user · 2009-03-10 7:07 pm

I've got a Pentium II computer that had some OS problems, so I had to start from scratch. I finally managed, using a downloaded boot disk, to get Win 95 installed, but the version of DOS that came with the disk (a retail install disk with the original holographic serial number on the book) did not install.

I know the files should be on there...I got it to work before with DRDOS, but that is pre-internet (no ipconfig command, for example). I need to start over with the good version of DOS. How do I do this?

Bat · 2009-03-10 7:49 pm

DOS didn't install with Win '95? It should be running on top of it.

Win '95 comes with DOS, in fact a higher version than ever offered for retail sale (7.12?). You should be able to open a DOS window from within Windows. DOS games run from the 9x desktop with DOS shortcuts.

'Mr. Certified' dv can elaborate if necessary, I'm sure. smile

(Sorry, response a bit hurried).

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dv · 2009-03-10 8:27 pm

Windows 95 rulez, but you can't install just DOS.

You can boot into DOS mode, but DOS apps run fine w/ the GUI loaded and configuring peripherals is easier.

Certifiably insane. tongue

user · 2009-03-10 8:33 pm

My problem is that in order to get the damn CD drive to work so I can even install W95, I have install some form of DOS on it which ends up being this cut-down boot version - then I can install the CD-Rom driver. I can get W95 to install at that point, but DOS 7 did not automatically install itself and I really want the more advanced version.

So I either need to extract the DOS installer out of the cab files or find out if there's an install step that I missed.

(I'm starting from scratch on a newly formatted HD, BTW)

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mrreet2001 · 2009-03-11 7:13 am

I take it you don't have a win 95 boot disk?

If you have a usb floppy dive for your mac, I can make life real easy for you.

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user · 2009-03-11 9:31 am

This is a Pentium II PC with a floppy and a zip drive that was given to me by my former boss. I have a boot disk that I downloaded from the net. I can get the computer running under Windows 95.

I just want to get the latest version of DOS installed that is supposedly on the W95 disk that I already have. Do you have floppy images for DOS 7? I tried to download some disk images for DOS 6.22 but there were problems with those files.

dv · 2009-03-11 9:53 am

Yeah, nonbootable CDs suck.

You can use a bootable FreeDOS CD (boots into a RAM Disk) swap the CDs, and install Windows from there. PM me if you need an ISO.

There is no DOS 7 install: or rather, DOS 7 is Windows 95, booted into command line mode.

user · 2009-03-11 10:10 am

Oh, guess that's the problem - however, the reason I started this hunt was that I had successfully installed W95 by first installing a copy of DRDOS on the computer first. Later when I tried to run ipconfig, the command was missing and I assumed that I needed an updated version of DOS installed in my boot DOS folder.

I've got an iso of FreeDOS downloaded already. I just need to buy some more CD-R blanks because I burned up all of mine trying to get Solaris 10 installed on my Ultra. I might start again with that iso instead, although I'll still need to use my boot disk to install enough DOS to support the CDROM driver.

Aren't old DOS machines FUN?

mrreet2001 · 2009-03-11 10:28 am

user wrote:
This is a Pentium II PC with a floppy and a zip drive that was given to me by my former boss. I have a boot disk that I downloaded from the net. I can get the computer running under Windows 95.

I just want to get the latest version of DOS installed that is supposedly on the W95 disk that I already have. Do you have floppy images for DOS 7? I tried to download some disk images for DOS 6.22 but there were problems with those files.

I have a Win 95 "CD-ROM Setup Boot Disk"

mrreet2001 · 2009-03-11 10:29 am

user wrote:
O Later when I tried to run ipconfig, the command was missing and I assumed that I needed an updated version of DOS installed in my boot DOS folder.

ipcfg in win95 wink not ipconfig

user · 2009-03-11 12:19 pm

mrreet2001 wrote:
user wrote:
O Later when I tried to run ipconfig, the command was missing and I assumed that I needed an updated version of DOS installed in my boot DOS folder.
ipcfg in win95 not ipconfig

srsly? Crap, can't they keep ANYTHING consistent?

dv · 2009-03-11 1:37 pm

user wrote:
mrreet2001 wrote:
user wrote:
O Later when I tried to run ipconfig, the command was missing and I assumed that I needed an updated version of DOS installed in my boot DOS folder.
ipcfg in win95 not ipconfig
srsly? Crap, can't they keep ANYTHING consistent?

Of course not.

LLEVIATHANN · 2009-03-11 3:39 pm

The 95 CD may have a make boot disk util on it. I know XP, 98 and 2000 does but can't recall that far back if 95 did. You just need another PC to put the disk in and look for it.

Booksley · 2009-03-11 4:42 pm

dv wrote:
user wrote:
mrreet2001 wrote:

ipcfg in win95 not ipconfig
srsly? Crap, can't they keep ANYTHING consistent?
Of course not.

It'd be too easy!

Bat · 2009-03-11 6:31 pm

Booksley wrote:
dv wrote:
user wrote:
srsly? Crap, can't they keep ANYTHING consistent?
Of course not.
This was an aversion narrowly disastered! [/Elite_Dogmatic]

big_smile

sturner · 2009-03-11 7:35 pm

So user, if you install Win 95 you need to modify the .bat file for booting so that it comes up in command line only.

DOS 6.22. GAAAHHHH!!!! I remember that. I ran an old PII with minimum ram and tiny harddrive as a server for our documentation department way back in 1992 using a server cross-over program so that our Macs could access it. My the memories pour back in.

dv · 2009-03-11 7:48 pm

Pentium IIs didn't exist in 1992.

edit: in fact, neither did the Pentium.

486 ftw.

sturner · 2009-03-11 8:34 pm

Maybe so. It's so dim peering back into the mists of pre-history!

Bat · 2009-03-12 12:26 am

sturner wrote:
So user, if you install Win 95 you need to modify the .bat file for booting so that it comes up in command line only.

DOS 6.22. GAAAHHHH!!!! I remember that. I ran an old PII with minimum ram and tiny harddrive as a server for our documentation department way back in 1992 using a server cross-over program so that our Macs could access it. My the memories pour back in.

As dv mentions, your memories seem corrupted. Better replace the RAM, just to be safe. big_smile

DOS 6.22 was the last retail MS-DOS. Win 95 ran atop DOS 7.10, and everyone seems to be forgetting that Win 95 has this little deal of a 32-bit shell so that you need 32-bit drivers, apps, etc. because it's only the DOS part that's 16-bit, like all DOS.

Pentium, '93. P Pro, '95. PII '97, PIII Feb '99 (same clock speed as the PII, 450MHz. Quickly discontinued in favor of the 500).

A PII running DOS 6.22 in '92... what an amalgamation of memories. Running on DDR3, no doubt...

ed typo

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user · 2009-03-12 11:06 am

This PC is a freebie I just got and I've trying to figure out what to do with it. The most advanced OS that will run on it well is W95/98. If I don't get a job very soon I may have to start a freelance graphics/photography business out of my house and I would need to move my iMac to my office.

I'd want to put XP on that PC and use it exclusively for my MagicJack phone line (taking it off my iMac). It hesitates a moment giving you a dial tone when you pick up the phone but it might be OK.

I've got a PIII that I can use instead, but I'll have to buy a USB card for it.

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mrreet2001 · 2009-04-10 10:12 am

Kevin77 wrote:
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W95 Does not support is more senior DOS version 6.22 is more senior.

Do H'what now?

sturner · 2009-04-10 10:41 am

I believe that this is incorrect. The DOS version for Windows 3.11 was 6.22. Win95 was the successor to 3.11.

The DOS version is underlaying the Window 95 GUI. The problem is how to eradicate the GUI and use the command line only.

sturner · 2009-04-10 10:43 am

user, did you trythis link?

mrreet2001 · 2009-04-10 2:30 pm

sturner wrote:
I believe that this is incorrect.

I think Kevin77 is a spammer ... all 3 of his post make little to no sense or are irrelevant.
With a metal recycling link in his sig. shrug

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