Quantcast

Forums | MacLife

You are not logged in.

#1 2009-03-17 9:14 am

Nefarious
Tuning Fork
Moderator
From: 45°22"N 84°57"W
Registered: 2002-09-30
Posts: 7998

iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/stpatrick.gif http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/stpatrick.gif http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/stpatrick.gif http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/stpatrick.gif http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/stpatrick.gif http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/stpatrick.gif http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/stpatrick.gif http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/stpatrick.gif http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/stpatrick.gif http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/stpatrick.gif


Rumors include:   active background apps, cut and paste, quad processors, premium App Store, more memory.  http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/guinness.gif

Offline

 

#2 2009-03-17 11:57 am

ukimalefu
4 8 15 16 23 42
Moderator
From: time loop
Registered: 2002-09-09
Posts: 9360
Website

Offline

 

#3 2009-03-17 12:55 pm

mrreet2001
Member
From: NW Ohio
Registered: 2005-05-25
Posts: 4334
Website

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

I am not really impressed so far.


2.66Ghz QuadCore-Nehalem w/24"LED CD ---2.2Ghz BlackMB---15" 2.4Ghz MBP(work)
Dual 2.3Ghz G5 (4G Ram, 2x 250G HD)(10.5 server)--- 400Mhz G4 PM (10.4 Server)
1.5GHz Powerbook---1.6Ghz G5 iMac
"So he fels down in a poisoning gas."

Offline

 

#4 2009-03-17 1:07 pm

mrreet2001
Member
From: NW Ohio
Registered: 2005-05-25
Posts: 4334
Website

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

never mind ... cut copy paste. Woot

Not sure how I feel about the P2P ... I hope you can do it over wifi ... the gen1 touches don't have any bluetooth and the gen 2 touches don't have it enabled.

Last edited by mrreet2001 (2009-03-17 1:10 pm)


2.66Ghz QuadCore-Nehalem w/24"LED CD ---2.2Ghz BlackMB---15" 2.4Ghz MBP(work)
Dual 2.3Ghz G5 (4G Ram, 2x 250G HD)(10.5 server)--- 400Mhz G4 PM (10.4 Server)
1.5GHz Powerbook---1.6Ghz G5 iMac
"So he fels down in a poisoning gas."

Offline

 

#5 2009-03-17 1:15 pm

mrreet2001
Member
From: NW Ohio
Registered: 2005-05-25
Posts: 4334
Website

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

and here is MMS ... We were updated about push notifications earlier.

Search is pretty cool too.



"To recap the big features in 3.0: In-App purchase to enable more app functionality, peer to peer connectivity, accessory connectivity, Google map controls, push notifications, cut and paste, landscape mode, Messages (MMS), voice memos, new Calendar support, enhancements to the Stock App and search (Spotlight). Plus, Bluetooth, if you’re really looking forward to that one."

Last edited by mrreet2001 (2009-03-17 1:26 pm)


2.66Ghz QuadCore-Nehalem w/24"LED CD ---2.2Ghz BlackMB---15" 2.4Ghz MBP(work)
Dual 2.3Ghz G5 (4G Ram, 2x 250G HD)(10.5 server)--- 400Mhz G4 PM (10.4 Server)
1.5GHz Powerbook---1.6Ghz G5 iMac
"So he fels down in a poisoning gas."

Offline

 

#6 2009-03-17 2:08 pm

Nefarious
Tuning Fork
Moderator
From: 45°22"N 84°57"W
Registered: 2002-09-30
Posts: 7998

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

I think the developers are going ga-ga.

The P2P games is going to lock in some buyers forever. 

There's plenty of room for specialty apps.   Subscription apps are going to be real popular with developers.

Offline

 

#7 2009-03-17 2:15 pm

mrreet2001
Member
From: NW Ohio
Registered: 2005-05-25
Posts: 4334
Website

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

Nefarious wrote:

The P2P games is going to lock in some buyers forever.

What I have been reading that it is going to require bluetooth though ... So this could get interesting.


2.66Ghz QuadCore-Nehalem w/24"LED CD ---2.2Ghz BlackMB---15" 2.4Ghz MBP(work)
Dual 2.3Ghz G5 (4G Ram, 2x 250G HD)(10.5 server)--- 400Mhz G4 PM (10.4 Server)
1.5GHz Powerbook---1.6Ghz G5 iMac
"So he fels down in a poisoning gas."

Offline

 

#8 2009-03-17 2:18 pm

mrreet2001
Member
From: NW Ohio
Registered: 2005-05-25
Posts: 4334
Website

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

... well I be damned...

http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/17/2g-i … iphone-os/

Looks like I will be getting a 2g ipod touch after all
Anyone want a 1st gen (its a joke mods wink )


2.66Ghz QuadCore-Nehalem w/24"LED CD ---2.2Ghz BlackMB---15" 2.4Ghz MBP(work)
Dual 2.3Ghz G5 (4G Ram, 2x 250G HD)(10.5 server)--- 400Mhz G4 PM (10.4 Server)
1.5GHz Powerbook---1.6Ghz G5 iMac
"So he fels down in a poisoning gas."

Offline

 

#9 2009-03-17 2:25 pm

ukimalefu
4 8 15 16 23 42
Moderator
From: time loop
Registered: 2002-09-09
Posts: 9360
Website

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

STEREO BLUETOOTH!

Other good features: Notes Sync, audio/video tags, live streaming, shake to shuffle, Wi-Fi auto login, Stereo Bluetooth, LDAP, iTunes account creation, YouTube ratings, Anti-Philshing, Call Log, Parental Controls, Media Scrubber, OTA profiles, VPN on demand, Languages, YouTube subscriptions, YouTube accounts and Encrypted profiles. Also, auto-fills. The biggest addition here is probably Stereo Bluetooth A2DP support.

Offline

 

#10 2009-03-17 2:27 pm

ukimalefu
4 8 15 16 23 42
Moderator
From: time loop
Registered: 2002-09-09
Posts: 9360
Website

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

Free for 3G iPhone, not for iPod touch

Works for older iPhones but the old iPhone won’t get the MMS or Stereo Bluetooth.

Offline

 

#11 2009-03-17 2:31 pm

ukimalefu
4 8 15 16 23 42
Moderator
From: time loop
Registered: 2002-09-09
Posts: 9360
Website

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

Q: Netbooks?
A: Nothing to announce today.

NOT TODAY!!!??? OK!

Offline

 

#12 2009-03-17 2:41 pm

mrreet2001
Member
From: NW Ohio
Registered: 2005-05-25
Posts: 4334
Website

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

I liked that answer


2.66Ghz QuadCore-Nehalem w/24"LED CD ---2.2Ghz BlackMB---15" 2.4Ghz MBP(work)
Dual 2.3Ghz G5 (4G Ram, 2x 250G HD)(10.5 server)--- 400Mhz G4 PM (10.4 Server)
1.5GHz Powerbook---1.6Ghz G5 iMac
"So he fels down in a poisoning gas."

Offline

 

#13 2009-03-17 2:51 pm

Antonio
Now with more cowbell!
From: San Francisco, CA
Registered: 2007-01-16
Posts: 689
Website

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

ukimalefu wrote:

Free for 3G iPhone, not for iPod touch

Works for older iPhones but the old iPhone won’t get the MMS or Stereo Bluetooth.

Someone will change that... already have MMS for 1st gen iPhones...

Offline

 

#14 2009-03-17 3:33 pm

Aldarion
Member
From: San Diego, CA
Registered: 2004-09-09
Posts: 250

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

I'm pissed that the original iPhone can't MMS! How can it be a 3G network thing when all 1G phones have this feature? And no stereo bluetooth is bull sh** too!


Formerly Turgon15" MacBookPro 2.2GHz 2GB 120GB, Mac OS X 10.5.7, 40GB AppleTV v. 2.3 (ATVFlash 3.5.5), 32GB iPhone 3G S
http://www.eff.org/campaigns/banners/plain468_60.gif

Offline

 

#15 2009-03-17 3:52 pm

Antonio
Now with more cowbell!
From: San Francisco, CA
Registered: 2007-01-16
Posts: 689
Website

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

Aldarion wrote:

I'm pissed that the original iPhone can't MMS! How can it be a 3G network thing when all 1G phones have this feature? And no stereo bluetooth is bull sh** too!

Yeah, no stereo Bluetooth is crap.
However, if you jailbreak your iPhone you can always use SwirlyMMS.
Hopefully, someone will come along and develop a hack for the bluetooth thing.

Offline

 

#16 2009-03-17 5:07 pm

jeremiah256
Big Black Kahuna
From: Honolulu HI, U.S.A.
Registered: 2001-06-29
Posts: 814

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

Nefarious wrote:

I think the developers are going ga-ga.

The P2P games is going to lock in some buyers forever. 

There's plenty of room for specialty apps.   Subscription apps are going to be real popular with developers.

EA Sports is going to make a killing on P2P apps.


... Already long ago, from when we sold our vote to no man, the People have abdicated our duties; for the People who once upon a time handed out military command, high civil office, legions - everything, now restrains itself and anxiously hopes for just two things:  bread and circuses - Juvenal

Offline

 

#17 2009-03-17 5:53 pm

barrfid_od
pro slacker
From: Luverne, MN
Registered: 2006-04-24
Posts: 802
Website

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

SO the iphone is like a virus.. looking at the map


White Macbook 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB Ram, 120GB Hard Drive, 9400M Graphics Custom PC. 2.3GHz AMD X2, 2GB ram, 250GB Hard Drive, Windows Vista

Offline

 

#18 2009-03-17 6:46 pm

Bat
Flawless Cowboy
Royal Wombat
From: Björk, Björk
Registered: 2001-05-14
Posts: 28541

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

OS v3.0 coming in June, will bring MMS, Copy Cut and Paste, turn by turn directions (third party), FM radio (third party, hardware), push notifications, and landscape email

Apple, struggling amid a rough economy continues to look to the iPhone as its brightest sales star.  Today Apple announced the new version of its iPhone OS, version 3.0 at a special presentation to the press.

At the start of the presentation, Apple lauded the iPhone's performance pointing out that it is now sold in 80 countries.  Stated presenter, Not Steve*, "Before we shipped our first phone, we set an aggressive goal -- we said we'd sell 10 million phones. And we sold 13.7m. We blew it away.  We've sold 17m altogether, you can see how people have accepted the 3G. But the touch also runs the same OS, and if you look at the time period, we've sold over 30m units of iPhones and iPod touch."
..

Scott Forstall, Apple's SVP of iPhone software was on hand to demo the new v3.0 OS and new SDK.  He started by announcing 1,000 new APIs in the new SDK.  He states, "Let me tell you what we're doing for developers. Our goal was to make devs successful, we gave them the best tools ever. It blew us away what they did. We've spent the last year working hard to make the SDK even better."
..

More SDK announcements include the addition of Bluetooth and automatic discovery APIs.  This should allow multiplayer Apps.  Also new, developers will have new APIs to talk to hardware peripherals -- like attached speakers.  The APIs will likely bring one feature the iPods have long lacked -- FM radio -- to the iPhone and the iPod Touch via third part hardware, says Apple.  Apple also says that medical device makers like blood pressure cuff makers are interested in using the iPhone as a readout for their devices.

Apple Announces iPhone OS v3.0

*Greg Joswiak


If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a conclusion - George Bernard Shaw

"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now, as they fly through the air."

Offline

 

#19 2009-03-18 10:18 am

ukimalefu
4 8 15 16 23 42
Moderator
From: time loop
Registered: 2002-09-09
Posts: 9360
Website

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

NO FLASH YET roll

Offline

 

#20 2009-03-18 11:22 am

Nefarious
Tuning Fork
Moderator
From: 45°22"N 84°57"W
Registered: 2002-09-30
Posts: 7998

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

The strong consensus among all the developers that I spoke with is that the 3.0 announcements have renewed their confidence in the iPhone platform. With 30 million devices out there (iPhone and iPod touch) and the momentum of the app store, existing developers are probably more excited about the iPhone than ever. If I could share one insight, it would be to keep an eye on what happens with the new accessory communication options. I heard several rumblings that this opens up a whole new round of innovation for the iPhone.

While no one picked any one single software feature, API, or Core service as the Next Big Thing, everyone was thrilled with the breadth and depth of the changes to the SDK.

http://theappleblog.com/2009/03/18/five … iphone-30/

My view is there's more than "one big thing" is iPhone OS 3.0.  So, it might take a while for developers to find their app's potential.

Offline

 

#21 2009-03-18 2:50 pm

ukimalefu
4 8 15 16 23 42
Moderator
From: time loop
Registered: 2002-09-09
Posts: 9360
Website

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

iPhone 3.0 Beta OS Impressions And Walkthrough Gallery

http://i.gizmodo.com/5172807/iphone-30- … gh-gallery

Offline

 

#22 2009-03-18 5:59 pm

McAddict
Member
Registered: 2006-09-08
Posts: 626

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

I have been playing around with it for 24 hours now and I'm thoroughly impressed, already changing the way I use my phone. There are countless minor tweaks and features that give me a smile each time I notice a new one.

Copy and paste seems to be wonky, especially in Safari. Some of the apps seem a bit slow/freezing at times but its still beta. If an app hangs, home button always brings it back to the springboard ASAP, no delays and crashing.

The little bubbles from Cut/Copy/Paste don't work as they should right now, appearing in wrong positions then jumping all over when scrolling and sometimes the shadow from the bubble misaligns. MMS is disabled or incomplete or waiting for AT&T.

Other impressions- Safari seems to be much snappier and sometimes pages load way faster, others it almost hangs (once again, still beta). The Wifi seems to have a problem booting up sometimes from unlocking the phone and it loads off Edge (original iPhone here) until I go to Settings. Spotlight is actually incredibly useful and so is the Shake to Undo/Redo.

Since everyone else is talking about this, I guess I can too, no?

Edit- Oh, and the USB/Bluetooth accessory interfacing has infinite potential. Imagine a 5MP, 5x Optical zoom camera or a rather large flash that goes off with a custom camera app. Memory stick readers to import pictures? Video recording? Storage? I'm not quite sure of the limits on this connection, but maybe even BT keyboards? I cannot wait to find out.

Last edited by McAddict (2009-03-18 6:01 pm)

Offline

 

#23 2009-03-18 6:02 pm

Antonio
Now with more cowbell!
From: San Francisco, CA
Registered: 2007-01-16
Posts: 689
Website

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

McAddict wrote:

...so is the Shake to Undo/Redo.

Does this remind anyone else of Ziggy, the computer from Quantum Leap? Al was always shaking and slapping that handheld to make it do stuff.

Offline

 

#24 2009-03-18 11:34 pm

Aqua OS X
Shark Sandwich
From: Oakland, CA
Registered: 2000-06-05
Posts: 12669

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

Am I the only one who thought "WTF?" when Apple blamed "hardware" for the not supporting MMS on the EDGE iPhone?

Really? "Hardware?" Considering that I've seen MMS on working old crappy phones with much slower processors, I don't quite buy the hardware excuse.

Offline

 

#25 2009-03-19 3:20 am

Bat
Flawless Cowboy
Royal Wombat
From: Björk, Björk
Registered: 2001-05-14
Posts: 28541

Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

Tossup between here and 'More for Less' for where to put this, but it's partly about OS3.0. And speaking of WTF and hardware,

Users who want Bluetooth will have to pay Apple for OS v3.0 to unlock the built in functionality

When the iPod touch 2G first came out, one feature that was the subject of numerous rumors was Bluetooth compatibility.  The addition of Bluetooth would allow wireless stereo headphones and other cool gadgets to connect to the device. 

Instead, users got Nike+, a curious joint venture from Nike and Apple which used the same 2.4 GHz spectrum.  Apple insisted at the time that Bluetooth was not on the iPod touch and that Nike+ didn't use Bluetooth.

Teardowns late last year, though, told a different story.  The teardown revealed a Broadcom Bluetooth chipset with support for 2.1+EDR.  The chipset, not listed on Apple's spec sheet, was apparently being used to implement Nike+.  Some argued that there must be some hardware difference; Apple wouldn't just lock out working functionality.

Well, they were wrong -- during a Q&A session at the iPhone/iPod touch OS v3.0 press event this week, Apple let slip that Bluetooth is indeed on the iPod touch and that it intentionally crippled it.  The revelation came when some inquisitive bloggers noted that A2DP, wireless accessory control and peer-to-peer connections -- key features of the new OS -- all required Bluetooth.  Apple's Greg Joswiak confirmed what many suspected, admitting that Bluetooth on iPod Touch 2Gs can be "unlocked" via an OS update.

Some are accusing Apple of intentionally crippling this key piece of iPod touch hardware as a ploy to sell its new OS.  Apple is offering the new OS free to iPhone customers, but its charging iPod touch customers $9.99 to upgrade and receive the complementary Bluetooth unlock.

Apple Reveals It Intentionally Crippled Bluetooth in iPod touch 2G


If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a conclusion - George Bernard Shaw

"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now, as they fly through the air."

Offline

 

Board footer

Powered by PunBB 1.2.6
© Copyright 2002–2005 Rickard Andersson