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#26 2009-03-19 7:04 am

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Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

Bat wrote:

Tossup between here and 'More for Less' for where to put this, but it's partly about OS3.0. And speaking of WTF and hardware,

Users who want Bluetooth will have to pay Apple for OS v3.0 to unlock the built in functionality

When the iPod touch 2G first came out, one feature that was the subject of numerous rumors was Bluetooth compatibility.  The addition of Bluetooth would allow wireless stereo headphones and other cool gadgets to connect to the device. 

Instead, users got Nike+, a curious joint venture from Nike and Apple which used the same 2.4 GHz spectrum.  Apple insisted at the time that Bluetooth was not on the iPod touch and that Nike+ didn't use Bluetooth.

Teardowns late last year, though, told a different story.  The teardown revealed a Broadcom Bluetooth chipset with support for 2.1+EDR.  The chipset, not listed on Apple's spec sheet, was apparently being used to implement Nike+.  Some argued that there must be some hardware difference; Apple wouldn't just lock out working functionality.

Well, they were wrong -- during a Q&A session at the iPhone/iPod touch OS v3.0 press event this week, Apple let slip that Bluetooth is indeed on the iPod touch and that it intentionally crippled it.  The revelation came when some inquisitive bloggers noted that A2DP, wireless accessory control and peer-to-peer connections -- key features of the new OS -- all required Bluetooth.  Apple's Greg Joswiak confirmed what many suspected, admitting that Bluetooth on iPod Touch 2Gs can be "unlocked" via an OS update.

Some are accusing Apple of intentionally crippling this key piece of iPod touch hardware as a ploy to sell its new OS.  Apple is offering the new OS free to iPhone customers, but its charging iPod touch customers $9.99 to upgrade and receive the complementary Bluetooth unlock.

Apple Reveals It Intentionally Crippled Bluetooth in iPod touch 2G

mrreet2001 wrote:

... well I be damned...

http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/17/2g-i … iphone-os/

Looks like I will be getting a 2g ipod touch after all
Anyone want a 1st gen (its a joke mods wink )

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#27 2009-03-19 10:15 am

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Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

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Am I the only one who thought "WTF?" when Apple blamed "hardware" for the not supporting MMS on the EDGE iPhone?

Really? "Hardware?" Considering that I've seen MMS on working old crappy phones with much slower processors, I don't quite buy the hardware excuse.

I've been using Swirly MMS since I purchased my 1st Gen iPhone. It was the first app I installed after unlocking & jailbreaking it.

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#28 2009-03-19 10:52 am

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Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

I'll be happy to move this into "More for Less"

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#29 2009-03-19 2:04 pm

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Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

Fine by me. Your best judgement.

mrreet2001 wrote:

mrreet2001 wrote:

... well I be damned...

http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/17/2g-i … iphone-os/

Looks like I will be getting a 2g ipod touch after all
Anyone want a 1st gen (its a joke mods wink )

tongue

Pshaw. Remember what happened the last time? (Apparently not. twisted)


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#30 2009-03-19 2:14 pm

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Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

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#31 2009-03-20 7:13 pm

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Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

Antonio wrote:

Aqua OS X wrote:

Am I the only one who thought "WTF?" when Apple blamed "hardware" for the not supporting MMS on the EDGE iPhone?

Really? "Hardware?" Considering that I've seen MMS on working old crappy phones with much slower processors, I don't quite buy the hardware excuse.

I've been using Swirly MMS since I purchased my 1st Gen iPhone. It was the first app I installed after unlocking & jailbreaking it.

Exactly. Obviously, it's technically possible.

Although, since iPhone users take and send a lot more mobile pictures then other phone users, me wonders if there is a reason carriers might be afraid of iPhone MMS on the older network.

That about the only "hardware" limitation that I can think of. shrug

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#32 2009-03-21 11:59 am

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Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

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#33 2009-03-21 1:13 pm

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Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

LOL. Yeah, hammers are good for fixing lots of things big_smile

There will probably be fixes for lots of these things, even the stereo bluetooth thing.
It will all depend on how much you're willing to alter your device. In the case for 1st gen iPhone owners, there's really no excuse, 'cause the warranty has run out on most of those (all but those who have protection plans) and jailbreaking is nothing amazing or complicated, anyhow.

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#34 2009-03-22 1:15 am

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Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

With the official announcement of the iPhone OS v3.0 there has been much excitement over the new features, which include MMS support, copy cut and paste, turn-by-turn directions (via third-party hardware), FM radio support (via third-party hardware), and new Bluetooth support.  One feature that didn't receive much attention was tethering.

Apple said at the press event for the new OS that it would be allowing tethering and has built the functionality into the new OS.  However, whether or not you can use this functionality is entirely dependent on whether your carrier chooses to support it, and thus far AT&T, the official iPhone carrier in the U.S., has announced no plans to do so.

Still, those interested in how the tethering will work will take interest in this news.  Irish programmer Steve Troughton, an iPhone hacker and OS v3.0 beta tester, became the first to see the new tethering features.  He accidentally unlocked the features when overwriting his carrier, O2's, Carrier Settings file.

The result was an options screen for a tethered connection. [..]

IPhone OS v3.0 Tethering Revealed, Still Requires Carrier Approval


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#35 2009-03-25 4:52 am

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Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

ukimalefu wrote:

Free for 3G iPhone, not for iPod touch

Works for older iPhones but the old iPhone won’t get the MMS or Stereo Bluetooth.

Hi everyone!    
It is only for old models?


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#36 2009-03-25 8:13 am

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Re: iPhone 3.0 and St. Paddy's Day 2009-3-17

george-harrison wrote:

ukimalefu wrote:

Free for 3G iPhone, not for iPod touch

Works for older iPhones but the old iPhone won’t get the MMS or Stereo Bluetooth.

Hi everyone!    
It is only for old models?

Is what for old models?


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