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#1 2009-04-14 10:15 am
- hardeaux
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How to best extend the life of my MacBook battery...
After shelling out $130 for a replacement for my 2 year old battery I would like to get the longest life out of this new one. I have read many recommendations about 'cycling' the battery and plan to do so as per Apples recommendations on a monthly basis.
Are there other practices to be followed that can extend the life of the battery? I carry my MBP to the office and plug in 9-5 every day. On occasion I carry it to meetings for an hour or two - but most times at my desk with power adapter connected. In the evening I will use primarily on the couch surfing/checking emails on occasion. Every once in a while I will play a game when I will make sure to be on the adapter...
Should I sleep, hibernate or shut down my MBP in the way out of the office? Perhaps in the evening?
Do extended sleep cycles detrement he life of the battery?
Should I yank the battery while on the power adapter - seems extreme... I have a late first-gen Intel Core 2 Duo MBP 15"...
Thanks in advance -
Chris
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#2 2009-04-14 11:24 am
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Re: How to best extend the life of my MacBook battery...
Based on the apple article 86284 calibrating your new lithium ion battery is the best way to maintain its health. While Apple suggests that you do this calibration, which essentially amounts to running your laptop on the battery from full charge all the way down to an empty charge, once every few months; I suggest doing this every day that you use the laptop. Based on the machines that we work on every day, it is possible to see a battery with a high energy capacity (mAh) and a high cycle count sometimes on the order of 400 - 500, while it is also possible to see an essentially dead battery with under 200 cycles. Based on our own experiments this seems to have a lot to due with the internal microprocessor that provides an estimate of the amount of energy in the battery as it charges and discharges and balances the capacity between each cell within the battery pack. In sort, using the battery is better than just keeping it attached to the system constantly without autonomous use. I don't advise taking the battery out at night but putting your machine to sleep when you leave and shutting it down on the weekends or when not in use for extended periods is better for the computer, the battery, and energy consumption. A handy way to keep track of your batteries heath is in System Profiler _ Power. There you can see charge capacity and cycle count among other power related information.
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#3 2009-04-14 4:14 pm
Re: How to best extend the life of my MacBook battery...
coconutBattery is a handy little app that will give you easy information.
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#4 2009-04-14 4:47 pm
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Re: How to best extend the life of my MacBook battery...
The idea of cycling the batteries applies to nickel-cadmium batteries which did suffer from charging "memory" due to crystal formation. The lithium-ion battery in your MacBook and most current laptops do not have this problem. The sole reason for doing such cycling is to recalibrate your MacBook's software to more accurately estimate the remaining power in your battery because it does have a lifespan and will eventually die.
While Jonathan's suggestion of cycling your MacBook's battery every day may maximize the number of batteries cycles, I'm not sure that this would necessarily maximize the life of the battery. If you were to do a full cycle of the battery every day as suggested you would get a 730 cycle count over those same two years. Most of the recommendations I've seen suggested leaving lithium-ion batteries plugged in all of the time and thus topped off until you need to rely upon battery power.
I do agree that you should not run your MacBook without the battery, if only to avoid the loss of current information should you lose power whether due by accidentally unplugging your MacBook or due to power failure.
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#5 2009-04-14 4:58 pm
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Re: How to best extend the life of my MacBook battery...
D'Eyncourt wrote:
The idea of cycling the batteries applies to nickel-cadmium batteries which did suffer from charging "memory" due to crystal formation.
It has nothing to do with nicd memory ...
The battery has an internal microprocessor that provides an estimate of the amount of energy in the battery as it charges and discharges. The battery needs to be recalibrated from time to time to keep the onscreen battery time and percent display accurate.
from
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1490
But I agree that cycling the battery everyday would be ludicrous.
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#6 2009-04-14 5:16 pm
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Re: How to best extend the life of my MacBook battery...
mrreet2001 wrote:
D'Eyncourt wrote:
The idea of cycling the batteries applies to nickel-cadmium batteries which did suffer from charging "memory" due to crystal formation.
It has nothing to do with nicd memory ...
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Huh? My understanding of NiCad battery memory is that crystals would form in the charged part of those batteries, and as those crystals grew they would reduce the battery life because there was less of the chemicals availble to be charged. To minimize the crystal formation (because some formation couldn't be avoided) one should fully cycle NiCads as often as possible.
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#7 2009-04-14 5:31 pm
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Re: How to best extend the life of my MacBook battery...
I meant the cycling of the current batteries. Sorry
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#8 2009-04-14 5:36 pm
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Re: How to best extend the life of my MacBook battery...
My experience has been my batteries maintain their health for about a year and then start to go downhill and are not much use after two years.
If batteries (Mac batteries) were $49, most people wouldn't mind replacing them every year, but the high cost of laptop batteries is right up there with ink cartridges, even our volume cost is ridiculously high. We offer batteries as a connivence to our customers but don't really make any money on them.
I'm curious to see how the new 17" unibody internal batteries hold up over time. Hopefully, they live up to at least some of the hype.
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#9 2009-04-15 1:25 am
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Re: How to best extend the life of my MacBook battery...
I have a PSP. Before my first and only battery change the battery only lasted a sad and disappointing year. My error was that I always had the PSP charging. I even took the charger out of the house and would not let the battery status fall under 90%. One day my charger broke or got eaten by an April fools scissor and I relied on the battery only. In about an hour I depleted the battery when all I was doing was listening to music. I got a new charger and a new (slightly less powerful) battery for it. I used the PSP and kept it on the regiment of recharging when it reached 10%. 3 years later and it has not lost its punch. I now apply that to everything I own that makes use of batteries and has worked great.
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