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#26 2009-05-04 10:12 am

JakeTheTall
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From: In Permanent Opposition
Registered: 2003-03-13
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Re: Fear Flu (a.k.a. A/H1N1)

Mustapha Mond wrote:

I hear that this thing is essentially bullsmurf. It's just the flu. We "Westernized" folk, with normal immune systems and a trip to the doctor should be fine.

Part of the fear is that people with normal immune systems can see abnormally high fatality chances, see cytokine storm.


Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim.  Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet."  They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.

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#27 2009-05-05 11:34 am

Hank Rearden
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Re: Fear Flu (a.k.a. A/H1N1)

Interesting article on some recent, and slightly rough, results:

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/ … luglimpse/

Taken together, all these findings fit the notion that more Mexicans are infected than was originally thought, that severe cases represent a fraction of the outbreak, and that mortality rates are lower than originally feared.

Researchers with the Great Britain’s National Institute for Medical Research say swine flu’s proteins suggest that it infects the upper rather than lower respiratory tract, reducing the damage it causes.

But...

Asked whether a visitor to Mexico several months ago might have carried an early, less-virulent version of the virus to the outside world, while the Mexican version evolved in a more dangerous direction, Columbia University epidemiologist Ian Lipkin answered, “Absolutely.”

However, as many have already been saying (here and elsewhere):

“I don’t think this is going to hit us hard in the northern hemisphere,” said Lipkin, noting that influenza spreads less easily in the summer, and vaccines should be ready by the time winter arrives. “But the southern hemisphere is going into the winter right now. They’re at the greatest risk.”


The gross heathenism of civilization has generally destroyed nature, and poetry, and all that is spiritual. -John Muir-

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#28 2009-05-06 10:55 am

NokX
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Re: Fear Flu (a.k.a. A/H1N1)

30,000 - 40,000 people die each year from the common flu.

in 1976, when the government decided they needed to inoculate people about 30 people died from the inoculation...1 died from the flu.

people are freaking out over nothing.


"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it." Abraham Lincoln

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#29 2009-05-06 12:27 pm

user
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Re: Fear Flu (a.k.a. A/H1N1)

NokX wrote:

cable newscasters are freaking out over nothing.

fixed.


Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.

Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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#30 2009-05-06 12:37 pm

ShnickyShnack
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Re: Fear Flu (a.k.a. A/H1N1)

user wrote:

NokX wrote:

cable newscasters have got ads to sell and are therefore freaking out over nothing.

fixed.

really fixed.


Note: please delete this post.

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#31 2009-05-06 12:52 pm

JakeTheTall
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Re: Fear Flu (a.k.a. A/H1N1)

NokX wrote:

30,000 - 40,000 people die each year from the common flu.

in 1976, when the government decided they needed to inoculate people about 30 people died from the inoculation...1 died from the flu.

people are freaking out over nothing.

So you think a flu pandemic isn't possible ?  Or that this strain is far from able to cause a pandemic like the 1918 "Spanish" Influenza epidemic ?

And that medical professionals in America, as well as those staffing agencies such as the CDC and WHO, don't know what they're talking about ?


Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim.  Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet."  They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.

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#32 2009-05-06 1:48 pm

bratboy
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From: Austin, Texas
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Re: Fear Flu (a.k.a. A/H1N1)

let the market handle it


"One thing we've learned is there's a difference between being disappointed and having madmen in authority."

                                                                   --Paul Krugman

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#33 2009-05-06 2:25 pm

wellfleation
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Re: Fear Flu (a.k.a. A/H1N1)

Just live recklessly enough to lower your immune system.


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#34 2009-05-13 1:16 pm

jah66
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Re: Fear Flu (a.k.a. A/H1N1)

Hello, Im new to the forum and have just been reading some of the posts and ran across this thread and thought...wow this is an interesting topic for a computer forum so anyway anybody got any good swine flu Jokes? I'd love to post them on one of my websites.

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#35 2009-05-14 6:45 pm

[Tycho?]
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Re: Fear Flu (a.k.a. A/H1N1)

jah66 wrote:

Hello, Im new to the forum and have just been reading some of the posts and ran across this thread and thought...wow this is an interesting topic for a computer forum so anyway anybody got any good swine flu Jokes? I'd love to post them on one of my websites.

lol


I could bore you with a philosophical tirade about freedom and tyranny, or try and explain to you what new horizons are suddenly open to me, but I doubt you would understand and if you did it might frighten you.  That amuses me.

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#36 2009-05-14 7:02 pm

DevoDoc
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Re: Fear Flu (a.k.a. A/H1N1)

JakeTheTall wrote:

So you think a flu pandemic isn't possible ?  Or that this strain is far from able to cause a pandemic like the 1918 "Spanish" Influenza epidemic ?

And that medical professionals in America, as well as those staffing agencies such as the CDC and WHO, don't know what they're talking about ?

Swine flu is contagious enough to cause a global pandemic, but that just means that there is widespread disease, not that a lot of people are going to die.  It appears to be no more dangerous that a typical seasonal flu.

Swine flu does not have the virulence factors that made the 1918 flu virus so deadly, but it could always mutate to become more (or less) virulent.

I usually know what I'm talking about.


We also know how cruel the truth often is, and we wonder whether delusion is not more consoling. - Henri Poincaré
http://www.cdc.gov/images/campaigns/SwineFlu/stayhome_130x73.jpg

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