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#226 2009-05-22 7:42 am

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

resedit wrote:

Not a shred of verifiable proof that you are willing to accept.

Ah, so you'll accept scientific evidence that you believe comports with scripture.  How much do you disregard (age of the earth, being an obvious example) because it doesn't?


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#227 2009-05-22 8:48 am

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

Tallgeese wrote:

You are genetically influenced to speak the language which you were most exposed to.

Yes, but whichever language is learned is accidental, not genetic.

You are genetically programmed to learn language; you were not genetically programmed to speak English.

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#228 2009-05-22 9:13 am

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

Personally, I don't see how anyone who knew anything about the history of the Bible, how it was compiled and how it was edited could believe a single word of it as Absolute Truth.


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#229 2009-05-22 1:37 pm

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

The people who wrote and compiled it don't even grant it the authority of God.  They reserve that authority for themselves.


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#230 2009-05-22 4:13 pm

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

Pithecanthropus wrote:

Personally, I don't see how anyone who knew anything about the history of the Bible, how it was compiled and how it was edited could believe a single word of it as Absolute Truth.

Personally, I don't see how anyone who knew anything about history or literature could believe that any particular modern historical theory for how an ancient text came to be would be that much more believable than the text it was meant to criticize.


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#231 2009-05-22 4:26 pm

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

StaticAge wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

You are genetically influenced to speak the language which you were most exposed to.

Yes, but whichever language is learned is accidental, not genetic.

You are genetically programmed to learn language; you were not genetically programmed to speak English.

Was meinst du damit?


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#232 2009-05-22 4:56 pm

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

Pithecanthropus wrote:

Personally, I don't see how anyone who knew anything about the history of the Bible, how it was compiled and how it was edited could believe a single word of it as Absolute Truth.

What do you mean?
I would love to discuss this in a new thread.

Common myth, for example, is the Q solution to the synoptic problem - that some lost document called Q was used as a source for Mathew and Luke.

There is zero evidence to support Q and quite a bit of evidence against it.

Another common myth is that the bible has been translated numerous times.
With the possible exception of Mathew, we have every book of the Bible in the signature language they were written in, and almost all modern translations go directly from the signature language to the language they are translated to.

Another common myth is the Documentary Hypothesis - that the Torah has four sources.
Apply the same algorythm used to produced the alleged four sources to the Koran, a fairly modern document we know the single history of, and you get three sources - thus the basic algorithm is clearly flawed.

What the JEDP fail to take into account is the cultural significance of Elohim vs YHWH - the latter being the covenant name of God used to give the covenant perspective of a story.


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#233 2009-05-23 12:09 pm

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

Whoever signed my e-mail up to multiple gay dating sites (I suspect some kind of pathetic malicious act by a member here), please don't do that again.

I've already filed a complain with the better business bureau in the area whois gave for the registrar for some of them as they did not require confirmation, others fortunately asked for confirmation which I was able to ignore.

If it happens again, I will be contacting the feds (though I doubt it will go anywhere) - taking action that results in gay pornographic (or straight pornographic) content ending up in someone's e-mail inbox is harassment and probably a violation of several federal laws.

Fortunately I don't load images from unknown e-mail addresses.


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#234 2009-05-23 12:11 pm

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

Someone did that? That's pretty lame. How many 13-year-olds post here?

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#235 2009-05-23 12:12 pm

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

How is your email address accessible through this site?


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#236 2009-05-23 12:17 pm

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

Probably from my website link.


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#237 2009-05-23 12:38 pm

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

resedit wrote:

Probably from my website link.

Indeed - maclife is the referrer for several different IP addresses.
Doesn't mean my address was gleaned that way recently.

Anyway, I suppose it is kind funny at some level, but I would appreciate it if whoever did it didn't do it again.

If it was someone here (and I suppose it could have been a non member just reading the forum)

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#238 2009-05-23 12:47 pm

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

I would only do that to so someone that would find the links useful, like NokX.


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#239 2009-05-23 7:24 pm

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

It is readily accessible to mods and admins.

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#240 2009-05-23 7:25 pm

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

Maybe wombats, Idunno.

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#241 2009-05-23 8:37 pm

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

It's not the e-mail address I'm signed up here with.


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#242 2009-05-23 8:59 pm

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

Wait, just curious, whats the BBB going to do?


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#243 2009-05-23 9:13 pm

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

spike wrote:

Wait, just curious, whats the BBB going to do?

Some areas by law specifically require that those types of services require confirmation.
If they are violating local law, the BBB may look into it and even file a complaint with local law enforcement so that they are told to require confirmation.

The ones that required confirmation I don't have a problem with, that's how it should be done (your e-mail isn't actually added to their db until you follow a link from an e-mail they send, often but not always with a captcha involved to avoid automated bot confirmation from compromised e-mail accounts)

But content of a mature nature should not allow adding an e-mail address w/o some attempt at validating the request was real, and some places have laws about that.


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#244 2009-05-23 10:39 pm

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

not wombats


"One thing we've learned is there's a difference between being disappointed and having madmen in authority."

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#245 2009-05-23 10:40 pm

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

Wow, I was wondering why there was some sudden activity in here.

So which one o'you homos went and did it?


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#246 2009-05-24 12:47 am

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

LET'S HAVE A POLL

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#247 2009-05-24 12:53 am

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

You, sir, are a person of interest in the case. Don't leave town.


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#248 2009-05-24 1:02 am

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

It doesn't matter.
I'm just politely asking whoever did it not to do it again.
It was kind of funny now that I think about it (I didn't seem funny at the time), but now that it's been done, the joke is old.

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#249 2009-05-24 1:03 am

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

They tried it with Nox once, but damn if he kept forgetting to cancel his account.


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#250 2009-05-24 11:42 am

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Re: APA revises their position on gay gene

resedit wrote:

It doesn't matter.
I'm just politely asking whoever did it not to do it again.
It was kind of funny now that I think about it (I didn't seem funny at the time), but now that it's been done, the joke is old.

Yeah, it's the sort of thing that I would have done to my friend in high school after he signed me up to "STOP BEDWETTING NOW!"
blush


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