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It's basically what I said previously. They are faintly condeming the murder, while (from inferrence) acclaiming the act.

So, today's WaPo chat

Tiller assassination: Why haven't the media begun using the term "assassination" with regard to the Tiller killing? Unlike the military guy killed in Arkansas, Tiller wasn't murdered in a random, drive-by fashion. He was tracked to his place of worship and assassinated.

Are the media wary of using the term "assassination"?

Ed O'Keefe: I've seen several media reports that use the term "assassination."

I don't see it in WaPo's coverage:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 00612.html

WICHITA, June 1 -- As the U.S. Marshals Service moved to protect abortion clinics and doctors nationwide, the fatal shooting of the country's most prominent provider of late-term abortions reignited a national debate about reproductive rights.

Nor on CNN online coverage.

google gives these:

Dr. George Tiller's assassination is no reason to suppress speech
Los Angeles Times - ‎12 hours ago‎
The assassination of Dr. George Tiller, long targeted by extremists because he performed late-term abortions, is a reminder that fringe adherents of the ...
Video: Vigil Held In Honor Of Slain Doctor KMBC
Olbermann - O'Reilly and Fox News accountable for Tiller assassination Examiner.com
Don't smear O'Reilly with Tiller assassination Atlanta Journal Constitution
KCRG - Daily Kos
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Post Politics Hour: GM, Gay Marriage, The Obamas' NYC Date, More
Washington Post - ‎41 minutes ago‎
Tiller assassination: Why haven't the media begun using the term "assassination" with regard to the Tiller killing? Unlike the military guy killed in ...
Tiller assassination suspect linked to Des Moines activist
Iowa Independent - ‎20 hours ago‎
By Jason Hancock 6/1/09 4:09 PM The suspect in the fatal shooting of late-term abortion doctor George Tiller in Kansas was an occasional contributor to a ...
NARAL-OR Statement on Tiller Assassination
Loaded Orygun - ‎May 31, 2009‎
I'm as horrified and saddened as anyone about the terror murder of Dr. George Tiller, a longtime defender of women's reproductive rights--not in the ivory ...
Newsbusters' increasingly creepy criticism of Tiller reporting
Media Matters for America - ‎1 hour ago‎
Drennen's complaints that CBS didn't offer such justification for Tiller's assassination is creepy, at best. Today, Newsbusters' Colleen Raezler makes it ...
Newsbusters wants media to call Tiller "controversial" Media Matters for America
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Terry's Moment
Atlantic Online - ‎May 31, 2009‎
Almost all pro-life organizations have decried the Tiller assassination as unconscionable and wrong. Here is Operation Rescue's Randall Terry: George Tiller ...
Inflammatory Rhetoric as the Context of Assassination Daily Kos
Right Wing Rhetoric Fail - Tiller was a "Nazi" OpEdNews
No Sense Of Decency: The Moral Bankruptcy Of Randall Terry Americans United
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The Day In Politics, 6/1
Atlantic Online - ‎18 hours ago‎
... its role in the surge; the speech debate around Tiller's assassination; and whether South Carolina stimulus spending will end up in the Supreme Court. ...
Rev. CJ Conner Celebrates Assassination of Dr. Tiller
Tips-Q GLBT News - ‎Jun 1, 2009‎
The Reverend CJ Conner seems to be overjoyed by the murder of Dr. Tiller yesterday. For GLBT citizens, this kind of hatred is nothing new. ...
Will Obama Use Anti-Terror Tools Against the Anti-Abortion Assasins?
Daily Kos - ‎10 hours ago‎
The assassination of tiller, the firebombing of clinics meet the guidelines for terrorism and yet there seems to be a reluctance to treat them as such. ...

Examiner.com
Christian fundamentalism, domestic terrorism, and political ...
Examiner.com - ‎19 hours ago‎
Christian fundamentalism erupted into domestic terrorism with the tragic but foreseeable political assassination of Dr. George Tiller, a Kansas City ...

Besides the LATimes, a cursory glance has the blogs using the word. I think most of the mainstream uses would appear in OpEds, but I haven't looked closely. Akin to 'torture' not appearing.

It is an assassination, of course.

Last edited by daemon (2009-06-02 1:09 pm)

ummm...

'important' to whom?

Symbolic of what? Seems to me it makes a point. "You could be next." As if they don't already know. Plus, it will do something to 'the debate' (you know, 'attitude shift' in the other thread's title.) Which I'll be curious to see new polling.

etc.

I don't know where you get the peers saying that, but I've not seen that. (Heh. I might be imitating res; if you don't wanna see it, you close your eyes.)

One of only 3 doctors performing late-term abortions in the U.S.

Paging radarman:

Call from Judge Bybee.

Bat wrote:

radarman wrote:

However, it could be said that Tiller did, in fact, reap what he sowed.

I must've missed the memo on assassination becoming a legal medical procedure.

call it a "surgical strike"

radarman wrote:

False dichotomy. It was wrong for the shooter to kill Tiller. However, it could be said that Tiller did, in fact, reap what he sowed. The two statements can be true at the same time. I'm not necessarily saying I agree with both statements, just that they aren't mutually exclusive.

I'm not claiming that they're "mutually exclusive," I'm saying the presence of the latter makes the former difficult to take seriously (i.e. if you don't have the good sense to refrain from attacking a murder victim at the point you're supposedly condemning their murder, you shouldn't expect many to assume your sincerity).

bratboy wrote:

radarman wrote:

False dichotomy. It was wrong for the shooter to kill Tiller. However, it could be said that Tiller did, in fact, reap what he sowed. The two statements can be true at the same time. I'm not necessarily saying I agree with both statements, just that they aren't mutually exclusive.

I'm not claiming that they're "mutually exclusive," I'm saying the presence of the latter makes the former difficult to take seriously (i.e. if you don't have the good sense to refrain from attacking a murder victim at the point you're supposedly condemning their murder, you shouldn't expect many to assume your sincerity).

I tend to agree that some pro-life folks get a bit too bent out of shape, and cross the line. The guy that shot this doctor clearly committed a crime, and needs to go to prison. What he did was clearly wrong; morally, legally, and ethically. I don't care how committed he was to the cause, it was criminal.

However, Tiller chose a lifestyle that he knew could eventually lead to his death; and even seem to take delight in baiting his enemies. He is, IMHO, partly to blame for his own death. Not much, but a little bit. Thus, he reaped what he sowed.

For example, lets say a house wife decides to play hump-along Cassidy with the mailman, and her husband happens to come home while they are going at it on their marital bed. The husband takes his gun, and redecorates their bedroom with the contents of her, and the mailman's, head.

Is the husband wrong for shooting them? Yes. Should he go to jail? Most assuredly. Did the woman and mailman have culpability in their own death? Yes, they did. Which is why the husband should get 10 instead of 20.

Last edited by radarman (2009-06-02 6:53 pm)

radarman wrote:

However, Tiller chose a lifestyle that he knew could eventually lead to his death; and even seem to take delight in baiting his enemies. He is, IMHO, partly to blame for his own death. Not much, but a little bit. Thus, he reaped what he sowed.

...so if I were beaten to death because of my sexual orientation, I'd be just a wee bit "to blame" for being killed?  A tad responsible?

For example, lets say a house wife decides to play hump-along Cassidy with the mailman, and her husband happens to come home while they are going at it on their marital bed. The husband takes his gun, and redecorates their bedroom with the contents of her, and the mailman's, head.

Is the husband wrong for shooting them? Yes. Should he go to jail? Most assuredly. Did the woman and mailman have culpability in their own death? Yes, they did. Which is why the husband should get 10 instead of 20.

Are you suggesting that, because this man chose to perform abortions, he was "culpable" in his own death?  His killer deserves to do less time?

That arguement, radarman, is similar to me saying that Pres. Bush illegally committed the country to war, and is a traitor, so he is liable for any attempt to assassinate him by anyone who opposes war, or that war in particular.

radarman wrote:

Thus, he reaped what he sowed.

Nope.

radarman wrote:

For example, lets say a house wife decides to play hump-along Cassidy with the mailman, and her husband happens to come home while they are going at it on their marital bed. The husband takes his gun, and redecorates their bedroom with the contents of her, and the mailman's, head.

Is the husband wrong for shooting them? Yes. Should he go to jail? Most assuredly. Did the woman and mailman have culpability in their own death? Yes, they did. Which is why the husband should get 10 instead of 20.

Again.

NOPE.

Holy feck, nope.

ShnickyShnack wrote:

It's blame the victim time. Play along at home!

USAToday:

Now, with Tiller killed in the foyer of his Reformation Lutheran Church in Wichita, the blame game surfaces anew, along with calls for toned-down arguments from activists on both sides of the issue.

If we're any indicator, activists on 'both sides of the issue' have deaf rank-and-file. (Although I gather there's at least one or two activists against choice around here.)

I'm really looking forward to new polling on 'attitudes' (even if that is another thread).

Last edited by daemon (2009-06-02 10:24 pm)

While the two are not IMHO comparable - another example is Martin Luther King Jr.
He did what he did knowing full well that there was a good chance it would end his life in violence, but it no was to blame for it.

But everyone knows I suck at analogies ...