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#26 2009-06-01 3:40 pm
- sturner
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Re: Saudi Arabia bringing back crucifixion
Oh dear. I think we have caught you in a pessimisstic mood.
I think that the only one I can name is the Terran Federation from Starship Troopers. The book, not the movie.
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#27 2009-06-01 4:07 pm
- bedstuy
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#28 2009-06-01 4:44 pm
Re: Saudi Arabia bringing back crucifixion
Tallgeese wrote:
The U.S. tortures for fun, the UK has surveillance cameras everywhere, Canada clubs baby seals, France is no beacon of religious freedom either, Germany outlawed Scientology...
Can you name any country that is modern, progressive, and democratic?
Well, obviously, GERMANY.
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#29 2009-06-01 5:47 pm
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Re: Saudi Arabia bringing back crucifixion
robco wrote:
Well then, show me one modern, progressive, democratic, Muslim state and we'll talk...
So that having been done you turn out to be indifferent.
I'm disappointed.
Note: please delete this post.
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#30 2009-06-01 6:28 pm
- sturner
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Re: Saudi Arabia bringing back crucifixion
Naw, no one ever thinks about Turkey. The Europeans don't when they think about Europe, and the Muslim world when they think about Pan-Arabism. Which Turkey isn't part of.
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#31 2009-06-01 6:42 pm
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Re: Saudi Arabia bringing back crucifixion
Turkey's secularism has been getting undermined for awhile. The Islamists have been sneaking in wearing secularist clothing.
"and it's not surprising that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
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#32 2009-06-01 9:28 pm
Re: Saudi Arabia bringing back crucifixion
ShnickyShnack wrote:
So that having been done you turn out to be indifferent.
I'm disappointed.
Sorry, I just think the Muslim world is a great present-day example of why religion and government should remain separated. You get cruel, barbaric laws like those in Saudi Arabia, Iran, UAE, Somalia, etc. And yet many of these countries are friends and allies of the US. I'm not saying that the EU, Canada or the US are picture perfect, but you have to admit that they're a much better place than Saudi Arabia - or most Islamic republics. I'm sorry if I don't have warm, fuzzy feelings for a religion and group of nations that support beating the crap out of me at best - beheading or hanging me at worst.
As for Israel, I was relieved to see the whole loyalty oath nonsense go down in flames. The religious right there scares me - they're almost as bad as the Taliban.
In any case, let's not go back to the glory days of gory, public executions and torture. I hope one day we can leave all that in the past where it belongs - along with superstitious deities...
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