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Gore v Bush, 2000

res, I was basically agreeing with you.

Shocking, I know....

I understand it well. I can say what I want! teh freedom to say dumb, ignorant, arrogant, hurtful, hateful, incosistent, illogical, contriditory, inflammatory, wrong, racist, extremist, politically incorrect, and just plain stupid, shall not be infringed upon.

Even if it does run afoul of laws about inciting to riot, treason, lible, slander, et. al.

So have I passed the test?

sturner wrote:

I understand it well. I can say what I want! teh freedom to say dumb, ignorant, arrogant, hurtful, hateful, incosistent, illogical, contriditory, inflammatory, wrong, racist, extremist, politically incorrect, and just plain stupid, shall not be infringed upon.

Even if it does run afoul of laws about inciting to riot, treason, lible, slander, et. al.

So have I passed the test?

With (Pirate Bay) colors flying!

Five more minutes proves you wrong. New batteries for the crystal ball?

I wouldn't say we've improved a lot. A disturbing number of kids drop out of school and too many who do "graduate" can barely read, write or handle basic math. Minority students still tend to do poorly, but that's likely due to socioeconomic status. It doesn't apply to all ethnicities. But there are
still plenty of dumb Caucasian students out there.

radarman wrote:

Chickenhawk wrote:

Literacy requirements were used to disenfranchise minority voters back in the day...

While true, and no doubt that was the intent; I sometimes think we might do well to bring them back. Minority education is far beyond where it was when these laws were first introduce, and it's getting a bit old having our leaders selected by idiots time and time again.

Here's an Alabama Literacy Test. Note that part A is subjective.

Plus, the application form was four pages long, cced to the KKK, and the Council of Concerned Citizens.

Last edited by jerwin (2009-07-01 2:37 pm)

Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-OK) had some kind words for the newest member of the U.S. Senate, Al Franken.

"I'll tell you what a lot of people are thinking," Inhofe told the Tulsa World, discussing the decreasing likelihood of successful Republican filibusters, "and that is it looks like things are going to be over and we are going to get the clown from Minnesota."

"I didn't mean to be disrespectful. I don't know the guy, but ... for a living he is a clown,'' Inhofe added. "That's what he does for a living."

Inhofe has made a living as a professional politician for nearly his entire adult life.

You'd think a conservative would shy away from poking fun at people who actually worked in the private sector to make a living.

I would have liked it if Franken had responded to the decision by accepting it and saying that he was glad to get to work because he was good enough, he's smart enough, and dog gone it, people like him.

resedit wrote:

user wrote:

Electronic voting machines are fine, but the company that makes them can't hide the software that they use.

Just how verified do you think mechanical counting is?
Ballot software need not be open source. It should be open to inspecting by the regulatory agencies of the state.

The system must be verified independently that it is practically tamper-proof.

The current system is not tamper proof. It's wide open to tampering.

And the guy who owns the company shouldn't be such a dummass that he goes around saying that he's going to win the election for xxx.

No freedom of speech for the businessman, eh?

The day electronic voting machines are as secure as an ATM is the day they will be acceptable to me.
That day will never come because the cost of such secure hardware and software will be too much for any but wealthy districts.

jerwin wrote:

radarman wrote:

Chickenhawk wrote:

Literacy requirements were used to disenfranchise minority voters back in the day...

While true, and no doubt that was the intent; I sometimes think we might do well to bring them back. Minority education is far beyond where it was when these laws were first introduce, and it's getting a bit old having our leaders selected by idiots time and time again.

Here's an Alabama Literacy Test. Note that part A is subjective.

Plus, the application form was four pages long, cced to the KKK, and the Council of Concerned Citizens.

I didn't see anything on that test that was racially biased. In fact, it seems like a fairly good test for someone who intends to vote. If you can't score at least a C on it, you need to go back to school, not vote.

radarman wrote:

jerwin wrote:

radarman wrote:

While true, and no doubt that was the intent; I sometimes think we might do well to bring them back. Minority education is far beyond where it was when these laws were first introduce, and it's getting a bit old having our leaders selected by idiots time and time again.

Here's an Alabama Literacy Test. Note that part A is subjective.

Plus, the application form was four pages long, cced to the KKK, and the Council of Concerned Citizens.

I didn't see anything on that test that was racially biased. In fact, it seems like a fairly good test for someone who intends to vote. If you can't score at least a C on it, you need to go back to school, not vote.

How about people who don't know the history of poll tests and taxes? Should they be sent back to school before being allowed to vote?

bratboy wrote:

...but based on his posting history, you know he's not.

No, I'm not. I do think that people should be minimally informed before making decisions that affect everyone. A basic knowledge of government should be a requirement for participation.

What is so bad about that?

Yes, I know that in the past, these sorts of tests were used in a discriminatory fashion, and that is wrong. However, fairly administered, I think it could result in a much more informed, and effective, electorate. We keep talking about idiots getting elected, and it's because we've got too many idiots electing them.