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Nevertheless, my Republican friends will state firmly :"This does raise a lot of questions".

LOL FOX News

The controversy is similar to one under the Bush administration -- only the administration was taking the opposite stance. In that case, scientist James Hansen claimed the administration was trying to keep him from speaking out and calling for reductions in greenhouse gases.

Oh, and also the one under the Bush administration involved an actual scientist.

Tallgeese wrote:

LOL Inhofe

Yeah, that stupid bastard is an embarrassment.

Just my luck to move to a state that makes Illinois politicians look good by comparison. I guess I can still look down on Louisiana anyways...

But his cause has become a favorite of right-wingers, who suddenly believe science to be sacred

That kind of statement really bothers me.
There never has been real science behind global warming scare, just like there wasn't real science behind global cooling scare before that, just like there wasn't real science behind the global warming scare before that ....

It's speculation and assumption fed by propaganda resulting in more propaganda.

You can find runaway climate scares in both directions using the same rhetoric being used today for as long as there have been newspapers.

resedit wrote:

But his cause has become a favorite of right-wingers, who suddenly believe science to be sacred

That kind of statement really bothers me.
There never has been real science behind global warming scare, just like there wasn't real science behind global cooling scare before that, just like there wasn't real science behind the global warming scare before that ....

It's speculation and assumption fed by propaganda resulting in more propaganda.

You can find runaway climate scares in both directions using the same rhetoric being used today for as long as there have been newspapers.

O RLY

There are two issues involved with global warming. The actual phenomenon, and the political smurf. I have no doubt the climate is changing. The evidence definitely seems to point in the right direction, and it isn't exactly unprecedented.

The political crap, on the other hand, is just that - crap. Most of the laws, and suggestions for laws, have more to do with economics than the environment. The government doesn't give a flying squat about the environment, but a new source of tax revenue is like a siren song to bureaucrats.

resedit wrote:

Of course the climate is changing, it's always changing.
However, it's not changing because of anything we are doing. It's changing because that's what it does, and what it has done for as long as our species has been here. Sometimes it changes slowly, sometimes it changes rapidly. Change is the only constant.

And the studies that support a human role in that warming are ... what? Lies? Bad science?

radarman wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

resedit wrote:

Of course the climate is changing, it's always changing.
However, it's not changing because of anything we are doing. It's changing because that's what it does, and what it has done for as long as our species has been here. Sometimes it changes slowly, sometimes it changes rapidly. Change is the only constant.

And the studies that support a human role in that warming are ... what? Lies? Bad science?

Desire to enact crippling taxes on the energy industry? Drooling to pass new laws and regulations? Hmm...

So climatologists (and other specialists) go to school, work hard, then embark on those studies in the hope of indirectly influencing policy towards that end?

Seems like a lot of work, don't you think?

Tallgeese wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

radarman wrote:

Desire to enact crippling taxes on the energy industry? Drooling to pass new laws and regulations? Hmm...

So climatologists (and other specialists) go to school, work hard, then embark on those studies in the hope of indirectly influencing policy towards that end?

Seems like a lot of work, don't you think?

It is a lot of work, but LIBCON demands a lot of its members.

Nice reference!

resedit wrote:

Of course the climate is changing, it's always changing.
However, it's not changing because of anything we are doing. It's changing because that's what it does, and what it has done for as long as our species has been here. Sometimes it changes slowly, sometimes it changes rapidly. Change is the only constant.

So you know better than people who actually know the topic. Nice.

Chickenhawk wrote:

resedit wrote:

Of course the climate is changing, it's always changing.
However, it's not changing because of anything we are doing. It's changing because that's what it does, and what it has done for as long as our species has been here. Sometimes it changes slowly, sometimes it changes rapidly. Change is the only constant.

So you know better than people who actually know the topic. Nice.

Sometimes resedit makes me feel as though I'm sitting through a woo-woo lecture on the miracle of menstruation. MOON POWER!

radarman wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

radarman wrote:

Desire to enact crippling taxes on the energy industry? Drooling to pass new laws and regulations? Hmm...

So climatologists (and other specialists) go to school, work hard, then embark on those studies in the hope of indirectly influencing policy towards that end?

Seems like a lot of work, don't you think?

I don't distrust all of the scientists. Like I said, I don't doubt the phenomenon is real, and that most of the scientist involved are sincere.

It's the corrupt, scum-satchel politicians I don't trust.

Remove the politicians from the equation. You still have the majority of relevant scientists around the globe saying the same thing, don't you?