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Farmerkev wrote:

I really have to wonder at the obsession with people out of power versus the ones we've currently got making the decisions.

Despite your completely predictable whining, there is a quite a bit of talk around here about the actions of the current administration and Congress.  A lot of it isn't positive. 

You've gotten pretty smurfing boring with this smurf, Kev.

Too bad our entire military is probably on leave today. Oh well, we can mount a response on Monday.

"All the Dems?"  Hasn't Obama maintained for a good while now that he thought we needed more troops in Afghanistan?

Farmerkev wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

:: ponders the life of a Republican these days ::

:: lacks empathy ::

You should ponder the life of an American, it's not looking too rosy.

I really have to wonder at the obsession with people out of power versus the ones we've currently got making the decisions.

I wasn't aware that governors of states are "out of power".

Tallgeese wrote:

Farmerkev wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

:: ponders the life of a Republican these days ::

:: lacks empathy ::

You should ponder the life of an American, it's not looking too rosy.

I really have to wonder at the obsession with people out of power versus the ones we've currently got making the decisions.

I wasn't aware that governors of states are "out of power".

Palin is. Sanford soon will be.

Daddyo wrote:

jkahless wrote:

Maybe Levi knocked her up too.

You're a smurfing idiot.

Don't tell me you don't wish it was you, standing over her with your lad in your hand, wanting her to degrade herself...

Once again, Palin plays by her own rules
Even some GOP strategists were baffled by Alaska governor's decision

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Yet it has been obvious that Alaska is a difficult place from which to participate in the national debate, both because of its physical distance from the rest of the United States and because of its culture and identity. Freed of the constraints of her office, Palin could become a more engaged participant in the national debate.

"My contrarian take is, almost everyone I talk to thinks it's crazy, but I wonder maybe it's crazy like a fox," said Bill Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard, who has been defending Palin this past week.

Kristol's view is that spending another 18 months in office in Alaska will not convince skeptics that Palin is ready to be president. Instead, he said, she can use this time to travel the country and the world, to immerse herself in policy issues and to campaign for Republican candidates, without facing questions every time she leaves the state about whether she is shirking her responsibilities.

"It's a heck of a gamble, but it might pay off," Kristol said.
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...She created a needless controversy this spring over whether she would be the keynote speaker at a Republican fundraising dinner in Washington, causing grumbling among GOP insiders.

Still another set of questions focuses on her reliability. Those came back this past week with a lengthy Vanity Fair article in which former McCain advisers went after Palin. Other Republicans rose to her defense, but yesterday's announcement is certain to bring new questions about why she needs to step down 18 months before her term ends.

'She commands attention'
All of that may mean little to the supporters who flocked to Palin during the presidential campaign and who remain loyal to her. She had far more appeal than McCain last year and drew far bigger crowds than he ever could. How they will see yesterday's announcement is not known, but they have tended to be both protective and forgiving of Palin as she has charted her unusual course through national politics.

A Republican strategist who got to know her over the past year, and who spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to offer a candid opinion, said this: "She has a base in the party that's motivated like no one else's, and this decision won't bother them. I don't know if she'll run. I don't know if she could win if she ran. But I'm sure she has a shot.

"If she runs, she'll face a skeptical press and a fairly stark division between her supporters and skeptics. But she commands attention, she connects with voters better than most, and she's one of the toughest-minded people I've met."

He added in conclusion something with which those on both sides of the Palin divide would agree. "I imagine," he said, "she'll continue to surprise us."

Bat wrote:

Once again, Palin plays by her own rules
Kristol's view is that spending another 18 months in office in Alaska will not convince skeptics that Palin is ready to be president. Instead, he said, she can use this time to travel the country and the world, to immerse herself in policy issues and to campaign for Republican candidates, without facing questions every time she leaves the state about whether she is shirking her responsibilities.

Ah yes.  Avoid the debate as to wether you're shirking your responsibilities by just shirking them completely.  At least then everyone will know you're an opportunist.

Farmerkev wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

Farmerkev wrote:

You should ponder the life of an American, it's not looking too rosy.

I really have to wonder at the obsession with people out of power versus the ones we've currently got making the decisions.

I wasn't aware that governors of states are "out of power".

They are when they resign and become ex-governors.

All I'm saying is we've got real things going on right now. Nobody here outside of one or two posters considers her anything but a joke.

Palin stands as the perfect caricature of the problems the Republican party is in now. That the shriek machine is desperately spinning out a positive view on her even now points to the poverty of real leaders the Republicans are suffering now.
As for Afghanistan..well... you have t step away from the Bush era characterization of those who opposed the war in Iraq as being simply "anti-war". Some who opposed were simple mindedly being anti-war but many, if not most, came to oppose the war in Iraq because it was the wrong war at the wrong time, others, like me have maintained that Afghanistan was where we should have been concentrating all these long, wasted years.
I and those who feel like I do did not think that basically letting the Taliban run free was a good idea, unlike the Bushie policy.
Afghanistan and Pakistan represent a terribly complex problem made all the worse by our tardiness at getting down to business. It will be a mess, it will take a long time and far too many lives to sort out.
But I for one am glad to have a president more concerned about dealing with the real problem, finally.

Palin has too many negatives, think of her as another Hillary.
She may run but she won't win.
Be concerned about who runs against her in the GOP primaries.
You also should be concerned about the millions this guy represents.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 … ys-powell/

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Farmerkev wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

:: ponders the life of a Republican these days ::

:: lacks empathy ::

You should ponder the life of an American, it's not looking too rosy.

I really have to wonder at the obsession with people out of power versus the ones we've currently got making the decisions.

Golly, you're unhappy about the criticism of your party of choice, a party that many hold responsible for the present shambles. I must say that's quite astonishing.

Though of course you blame the Democrats for it, so maybe you don't like your bizarre take on events to be challenged.

And by the way, has it ever occurred to you that people become more interested in frivolous news items when times are hard?

For that last time hopefully.
I voted for more Dems in the last election that Reps.
Try and get it through your brain this time, I'm not a straight ticket voter.
I'll vote for anybody of any party that even hints at competency and fiscal responsibility.

Chickenhawk wrote:

Farmerkev wrote:

bratboy wrote:

It's a thread on a message board.  Not a big deal.  Sternly reminding everyone that there's 'real things' going on is probably a bit unnecessary.

Actually, what started this was me pointing out that ridiculing her for being less than a full term Governor was a bit silly in light of Obama's experience.

I think she'd be ridiculed less if she had more to bring to the table. She has proven herself time after time to be a complete pinhead whenever she is placed in an unscripted situation.

Obama (by the time he started his run for prez) had accomplished:
Graduate of Columbia and Harvard Law.
President of the Harvard Law Review.
Was a civil rights attorney.
Constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago.
Illinois State Senator from 1997 to 2004,
and finally was a US Senator.

Palin, up till now:
Bounced around colleges until getting a BA in communications-journalism in 1987.
Placed 3rd in Miss Alaska.
Was a sports reporter.
Member of the Wasilla (pop approx. 5000-6000) City Council from 1992 to 1996.
Mayor of Wasilla 1996-2002.
Chairperson of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission 2003-2004 (quit)
Governor of Alaska 2006-2009 (resigned)
2008 Republican VP Nominee.

I don't think you can really compare her resume to Obama's.

You talk as though being an Illinois politician, Chicago no less, was something to be proud of.
That's a major mark against him.