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I'd say L4D2 is coming out just in time, I've kinda of slowed my playtime on it a lot, it was an amazing ride, but once you've done every mode and level over and over, I'm hungry for more, plus with all the half off weekend sales they do, even owning both probably won't cost me more than $50 total, so money well spent.

There are mod sites for L4D maps/mods. Just type it in a search engine and it will pop up. I'm not sure yet on which one is best. There was a pretty big user created campaign that just got released. I haven't tried it but I know theres been a bunch of folks using it online. Think its called Dead Abroad or something around those lines.

Ya thats usually what you see in the early days after a dev kit has been released. Lotta quick "me too" projects. Prolly won't see anything professional looking till at least a year.

Ya I caught that too. Also caught the disappointment of fans when Valve provided no official mall level. Think a lot just want to replay that like the movies. I dunno, fun and all but I think Valve is making the right choice. Gets into legal issues copying the mall senario + its been done to death.

sounds good for survivor mode if mods can make use of that?

Kikizo: This is launching on Xbox 360 and PC. I spoke to Doug Lombardi last year about the possibility of cross-platform multiplayer. He told me it was a problematic objective because the control differences are so severe. Has anything changed on that front?

Faliszek: You know, that's a great question to be asked, and then if you go look at the community - besides people wanting to settle bets, you don't see a lot of call for that. There's been a couple of games that have had that, and that's just not been a compelling feature. If we found it was something that people really wanted, like split-screen - split-screen was a really simple one, we put it in and we know how many people play split-screen, it's super-successful, we're definitely putting split-screen in Left 4 Dead 2, right. But that kind of cross-platform play is just this gimmicky thing at this point that people talk about, but you don't see anyone who's done it being really happy they did it.

Kikizo: So the control handicap is too great in this case?

Faliszek: I just think when people play with their friends online that's not a big barrier for them. They kind of tend to have Xbox friends they play with on the Xbox and PC friends - you know what I mean. It doesn't need the cross-over.

Kikizo: You think the PC and Xbox 360 markets are pretty distinct then.

Faliszek: Well especially with Left 4 Dead they're both pretty big, so they can support enough that we're not scrambling... Again there's that fascination but I honestly don't care, especially when I'm grabbing a random game I don't care.

Kikizo: It's a bit of a golden goose, isn't it.

Faliszek: Yeah, it's this weird thing. I'm not quite sure.

Why support cross when you might sell a some a copy of each?

http://games.kikizo.com/features/left-4 … iew-p1.asp

I think you're confusing options and prerequisites. You need cross-compat play before you start screening.

MacZiMiZer wrote:

I'm saying I don't XBL gamers to connect to users on PC playing the same game, sure it's nice on paper to have the larger community, but I don't believe it will add anything to the experience, more likely it will degrade it.

For random games, sure. However, if you have some friends with the XBox version and some friends with the PC version, there's no way to play together, which sucks. That may be a "minority" of situations, but that doesn't make it suck any less if you are in that situation.

Well literally the biggest reason to downrate L4D PC is Steam. It is a joke of a setup compared to XBL. Still can't even invite folks to a game from within L4D. I click on it, nothing happens...how its always been for me. Its not streamlined at all and to answer a pm, its a mess. Can't do it ingame like you can with XBL via the guide thingy.

shift tab to message and invite works fine for me?

Steam half off sale $25 < $60 for 360

'Zoey nude in mall.' Someone get on it!

Wonders how many just Googled 'Zoey nude mod'.