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#26 2009-07-16 8:00 pm

jerwin
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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

Daniel wrote:

Wishing for someone's brutal rape, or even being ambivalent about its occurrence, crosses the line of decency and humanity.

Indeed.


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#27 2009-07-16 8:54 pm

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

I call it karma. Whatever happens is from what he reaped. Why anyone would care what happens to this ass-wipe is beyond me.


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#28 2009-07-16 9:20 pm

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

It mostly happens in Texas.  It's not as prevalent elsewhere, but sexual abuse by guards is.


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#29 2009-07-16 9:33 pm

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

wellfleation wrote:

I call it karma. Whatever happens is from what he reaped. Why anyone would care what happens to this ass-wipe is beyond me.

Wow.  May I recommend Iran as a future home for you?


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#30 2009-07-16 9:48 pm

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

My, this thread took a very severe turn.


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#31 2009-07-16 10:09 pm

jerwin
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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

wellfleation wrote:

I call it karma. Whatever happens is from what he reaped. Why anyone would care what happens to this ass-wipe is beyond me.

Please.

he who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully

It's from the Bible, though perhaps farmerkev will also appreciate the analogy. tongue Also, you're probably misunderstanding karma, though I am no buddhist.


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#32 2009-07-16 10:13 pm

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

Eh.

He'll live a few more years, perhaps, in rather austere conditions and if he has any personal character at all (which he most likely has in spades), he'll see the restrictions as a way to simplify his life and clear his mind.

He still wins. Big smurfing deal.


Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.

Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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#33 2009-07-16 10:15 pm

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

Daniel wrote:

wellfleation wrote:

I call it karma. Whatever happens is from what he reaped. Why anyone would care what happens to this ass-wipe is beyond me.

Wow.  May I recommend Iran as a future home for you?

You can recommend anywhere you want. Some PRISONS (much different from jail) are less worse than others but they are all bad. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

I would not care. I simply stated what he can expect and indicated by my statement I did not care by the off-handed way I stated it. I never said I hoped these things would happen or that I would take perverse pleasure if they did. The psychological damage he has caused sooo many people, he ruined their lives! THIER LIVES! So what ever happens is karma.

And AGAIN, let me clarify yet again that I never advocated anything. Pariah took what I said out of context and then others boarded his boat. Where did I ever say I advocated raping someone anytime anywhere? I simply said I would be indifferent as he does not deserve sympathy in my opinion. I can't be any clearer than that.

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#34 2009-07-16 10:22 pm

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

wellfleation wrote:

Are you kidding? The insinuation was that this is a fetish of mine. (Obviously this needs to be repeated.) I simply stated a reality in which I have no sympathy for this scum-bag. I'm sure if he stole your life savings you would feel differently. All I'm doing is empathizing w/the victims as opposed to the purpatrator scum. Or does that cross the liberal line? If so, there's a good example of why I'm an Independent.

Oh what the smurf ever.

If wishing prison rape upon someone makes one a superior "independent," count me out.

I have no sympathy for this particular individual.  What I do believe, however, is that our system should not allow for prisoners to be abused or tortured.


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#35 2009-07-16 10:41 pm

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

A bare cell, books, and time to think about the meaning of freedom.


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#36 2009-07-16 10:53 pm

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

Prison should offer the opportunity for one to figure out how to make something out of their life--because the majority of them will eventually be released.


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#37 2009-07-16 11:01 pm

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

bratboy wrote:

Prison should offer the opportunity for one to figure out how to make something out of their life--because the majority of them will eventually be released.

It's amazing how few people seem to comprehend this.


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#38 2009-07-16 11:04 pm

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

ShnickyShnack wrote:

bratboy wrote:

Prison should offer the opportunity for one to figure out how to make something out of their life--because the majority of them will eventually be released.

It's amazing how few people seem to comprehend this.

Not much chance of making something of your life after prison, the only jobs available for ex-cons are crap.


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#39 2009-07-17 1:26 am

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

Farmerkev wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

bratboy wrote:

Prison should offer the opportunity for one to figure out how to make something out of their life--because the majority of them will eventually be released.

It's amazing how few people seem to comprehend this.

Not much chance of making something of your life after prison, the only jobs available for ex-cons are crap.

Not if you finish your parole, get a degree, and have your record expunged.


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#40 2009-07-17 5:26 pm

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

Metacell wrote:

Farmerkev wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

It's amazing how few people seem to comprehend this.

Not much chance of making something of your life after prison, the only jobs available for ex-cons are crap.

Not if you finish your parole, get a degree, and have your record expunged.

The only way to get a nice job after you get out is to have had one before you went in, a la Paris Hilton.

It is simply impossible to make it in this country with $100 and a pair of jeans, which is what you get when you get kicked out of prison.  Every business today, and most apartments, conduct criminal background checks.  Many former inmates reoffend just to get a home and reliable meals.

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#41 2009-07-17 8:22 pm

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

bratboy wrote:

wellfleation wrote:

Are you kidding? The insinuation was that this is a fetish of mine. (Obviously this needs to be repeated.) I simply stated a reality in which I have no sympathy for this scum-bag. I'm sure if he stole your life savings you would feel differently. All I'm doing is empathizing w/the victims as opposed to the purpatrator scum. Or does that cross the liberal line? If so, there's a good example of why I'm an Independent.

Oh what the smurf ever.

If wishing prison rape upon someone makes one a superior "independent," count me out.

I have no sympathy for this particular individual.  What I do believe, however, is that our system should not allow for prisoners to be abused or tortured.

Again you distorted what I said in order to to cram in some sort of ideology of yours. Show me where I said I "wished for this guy to be raped"? WHERE DID I SAY THIS? For a lawyer, you really need to understand statements better. Unless you are practicing your distortion techniques.

Smarten up!


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#42 2009-07-17 8:25 pm

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

In fact, go Pro Bono and ensure this guy is protected if you are so worried about this guy. I could care less.

Double this considering he will not ever be released/rehabilitated.


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#43 2009-07-17 8:27 pm

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

ShnickyShnack wrote:

bratboy wrote:

Prison should offer the opportunity for one to figure out how to make something out of their life--because the majority of them will eventually be released.

It's amazing how few people seem to comprehend this.

Life in prison does this. Wow, now I'm REALLY enlightened! Thanks!


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#44 2009-07-17 8:28 pm

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

wellfleation wrote:

Again you distorted what I said in order to to cram in some sort of ideology of yours. Show me where I said I "wished for this guy to be raped"? WHERE DID I SAY THIS? For a lawyer, you really need to understand statements better. Unless you are practicing your distortion techniques.

Smarten up!

That would be right here, genius.


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#45 2009-07-17 10:04 pm

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

wellfleation wrote:

Again you distorted what I said in order to to cram in some sort of ideology of yours. Show me where I said I "wished for this guy to be raped"? WHERE DID I SAY THIS? For a lawyer, you really need to understand statements better. Unless you are practicing your distortion techniques.

Smarten up!

You might want to familiarize yourself with your own posts.


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#46 2009-07-17 11:04 pm

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

Perhaps that vapo thingy had some of that new extry-strong stuff in it. Hostility, memory issues...


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#47 2009-07-18 12:27 am

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

Bat wrote:

Perhaps that vapo thingy had some of that new extry-strong stuff in it. Hostility, memory issues...

Or more likely the plumber didn't stop by, and the vapo had nothing to run on...


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#48 2009-07-19 8:20 pm

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

Tallgeese wrote:

wellfleation wrote:

Again you distorted what I said in order to to cram in some sort of ideology of yours. Show me where I said I "wished for this guy to be raped"? WHERE DID I SAY THIS? For a lawyer, you really need to understand statements better. Unless you are practicing your distortion techniques.

Smarten up!

That would be right here, genius.

It wasn't written to mean as it read since it was based on a quote. So I can see how it may of been misconstrued. Pariah said he wished such and such and added to it but meant it not as a wish but what WILL happen and later added that I do not care. Even so, people will think what they think no matter how many times I clarify.

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#49 2009-07-20 7:37 pm

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

wellfleation wrote:

It wasn't written to mean as it read since it was based on a quote. So I can see how it may of been misconstrued. Pariah said he wished such and such and added to it but meant it not as a wish but what WILL happen and later added that I do not care. Even so, people will think what they think no matter how many times I clarify.

Why not just leave it at "OK, I understand how I screwed up?"  You're still intent upon turning it around and accusing others of misrepresenting your position.


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#50 2009-07-24 4:31 pm

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Re: Madoff starts 150-year sentence at NC prison

Daniel wrote:

Wishing for someone's brutal rape, or even being ambivalent about its occurrence, crosses the line of decency and humanity.

Correct.

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