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#1 2009-07-31 4:48 pm

Bren
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"Come play, My Lord!"

Looks like porn to me!

http://www.evony.com/evonyvc.html

I get real tired of seeing ads for this. Do you concur?


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#2 2009-07-31 4:54 pm

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

I started playing right before that ad campaign started. It's a fun game, but the ad campaign is lame.

Better than those "burn stomach fat" ads, though.


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#3 2009-07-31 5:17 pm

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

Yeah, I like how the "before" and "after" pics often show two different people!

Or how about, "24 year old makes $1,638 online!" The ads always feature a pic of a cute-looking girl, but just by virtue of her appearance in those ads, her face has become a thing of ugliness in my eyes.

http://b1.adbrite.com/iads/316860.jpg

Also stunning is the part where it says "As seen on ABC, CNN, MSNBC, and USA Today." Do people actually think that this "business opportunity" has been featured by those news providers? Maybe it they were doing articles on Internet scams...


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#4 2009-07-31 6:01 pm

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

It's catching a lot of flak, both for increasingly near-ominipresent ads focusing increasingly on sex, and on being ostensibly 'free' yet involving many, usually concealed microtransactional costs- even interplayer messages.

The folks behind it, IIRC, are in China and ran/run the biggest WoW gold-farming operation ever.


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#5 2009-07-31 6:29 pm

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

That's lame. And what kinda word is "Evony" anyway? I guess it's supposed to remind gamers of Everquest or something. Sounds like "ebony" and "ivory" combined, which brings to mind one of the lamest 1980s songs ever.

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#6 2009-07-31 6:31 pm

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

'Evony & Ibory?' smile


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#7 2009-07-31 6:36 pm

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

Bren wrote:

Also stunning is the part where it says "As seen on ABC, CNN, MSNBC, and USA Today." Do people actually think that this "business opportunity" has been featured by those news providers? Maybe it they were doing articles on Internet scams...

It was 'seen' on those networks, running an advert for it technically counts that it was at some point seen on said networks.


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#8 2009-07-31 10:39 pm

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

I wish there were some laws with teeth that enforced truth in Internet advertising. I know it'll never happen, but I can dream.


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#9 2009-08-01 3:35 am

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

"As thought by your own brain!"


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#10 2009-08-01 12:55 pm

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

Bat wrote:

It's catching a lot of flak, both for increasingly near-ominipresent ads focusing increasingly on sex, and on being ostensibly 'free' yet involving many, usually concealed microtransactional costs- even interplayer messages.

The folks behind it, IIRC, are in China and ran/run the biggest WoW gold-farming operation ever.

The only costs on interplayer messages are world-chat, which is just fine imho. Alliance chat and mails are free.

But they're not exactly concealed costs. It's actually quite clear what's going on.

There's nothing you can't do for free, it just takes longer. Sometimes a lot longer.

Hate to defend gold farmers, but it's not that bad a game, honest.


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#11 2009-08-01 5:18 pm

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

What about this other game they mention, Unnoticeably? Is that any good?


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#12 2009-08-03 1:55 am

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

Bren wrote:

What about this other game they mention, Unnoticeably? Is that any good?

Sarcasm, I hope.

They mean it's browser/flash based so you can play at work and alt-tab when necessary. Or log in, set buiding stuff, and close up, check in on your lunch break, whatever.

"Unnoticeably" my ass.

False advertising, since it's using port 843, which can be blocked, and logs analyzed, and people fired. It also shows up quite happily in your web browsing history.

My school district has already blocked it.

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#13 2009-08-03 2:00 am

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

Yes, I was being sarcastic. Give me the names and phone numbers of the decision-makers in your school district, though, and I'll get that port unblocked for you right quick.


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#14 2009-08-05 9:03 am

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#15 2009-08-05 5:15 pm

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

heh


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#16 2009-08-05 6:19 pm

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

dv wrote:

Bat wrote:

It's catching a lot of flak, both for increasingly near-ominipresent ads focusing increasingly on sex, and on being ostensibly 'free' yet involving many, usually concealed microtransactional costs- even interplayer messages.

The folks behind it, IIRC, are in China and ran/run the biggest WoW gold-farming operation ever.

The only costs on interplayer messages are world-chat, which is just fine imho. Alliance chat and mails are free.

But they're not exactly concealed costs. It's actually quite clear what's going on.

There's nothing you can't do for free, it just takes longer. Sometimes a lot longer.

Hate to defend gold farmers, but it's not that bad a game, honest.

If a sword costs "$2.80" in the game, it'll cost "$28.00" in the real world.


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#17 2009-08-05 6:52 pm

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

PopCap has just endeared themselves to me in a big way.


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#18 2009-09-17 6:14 am

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

Oh God, it's gotten even worse!

http://ads.ad4game.com/www/images/24dca076dd39b6a0d47d3f17d6209b26.jpg

http://ads.ad4game.com/www/images/248dd150e15ffaa25d882a634502c05c.jpg

Now they've abandoned all pretense of having the women dressed in medieval fantasy clothes.

I hate you, Evony!


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#19 2009-09-17 11:00 am

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

Bren wrote:

Now they've abandoned all pretense of having the women dressed in medieval fantasy clothes.

Ad agencies will do anything for clicks.
I do find it pretty sickening though... especially since they seem to be spreading everywhere now.


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#20 2009-09-17 6:48 pm

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

This stuff is too amateurish to be the work of an advertising agency. Not that we've learned to expect good things from ad agencies, but if the jackasses who run Evony actually paid an expert to come up with these concepts, that was money wasted. They could have saved a bundle and just had some 4Chan pervert boy design their banners.


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#21 2009-09-19 8:33 am

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

I has been demonstrated that they actually steal images off some other sites, flip horizontal, and stick on their ad

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#22 2009-09-19 3:00 pm

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

Yeah, those are some people you wanna trust with your credit card info!


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#23 2009-09-19 4:39 pm

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

Earendil the Mariner wrote:

Bren wrote:

Now they've abandoned all pretense of having the women dressed in medieval fantasy clothes.

Ad agencies will do anything for clicks.
I do find it pretty sickening though... especially since they seem to be spreading everywhere now.

eheh...he said "spreading"....


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#24 2009-09-20 5:35 am

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

MacZiMiZer wrote:

I has been demonstrated that they actually steal images off some other sites, flip horizontal, and stick on their ad

Hey MacZ, if you're out there- I PMed & emailed you a coupla weeks ago about L4D. Check in?


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#25 2009-09-21 5:28 pm

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Re: "Come play, My Lord!"

It says your PM box is full Bat heh

I never notice I have new messages because it's so subtle on M|L, I guess I need to set it to email me when I get a PM.

I graduated with my BS in Computer Engineering in August and am working on my graduate degree plus a 30 hour a week job, so my time for forum browsing and games has certainly waned.  But yeah, with L4D2 coming out in mid November so I'm waiting on that.


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add me and let send me a message on here with your username on Steam and I'll send it on over.


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