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#1 2009-08-23 10:19 am

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An actual WWI Flight Sim? In 2009?!

This seems to at least equal that updating of Falcon IV a few years back for unexpected, unlikely treats.

Rise of Flight: The First Great Air War

Welcome to the official Rise of Flight: The First Great Air War website. Here is where you’ll find all the information necessary to manage your install of Rise of Flight. You can participate in our Forum, read our Blog or Purchase new flyable aircraft for your install of ROF. Simply click on the navigation bar to get around.

We encourage you to create a customer/visitor account before continuing. You can do so by clicking on Register button at the top right. This will make shopping and communicating with us much easier.

We hope you enjoy Rise of Flight!

Found at http://www.gogamer.com/Rise-of-Flight-- … ewprod.htm

Listed sysreqs:

Windows XP (SP2 or Higher)/Bista (SP1)
Intel Dual Core 2.4Ghz
2GB RAM
6GB Hard Drive Space
DirectX 9.0c
512 MB GeForce 8800GTS/Radeon HD3500
1280x960 resolution
Sound Card
256/kps Internet Connection

I think they're onto something there. MS could've sold twice as many copies of Vista if it'd been named Windows Bistro instead. cool

So... is Books up to it, or limited to arcade-y jet games? wink


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#2 2009-08-23 10:31 am

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Re: An actual WWI Flight Sim? In 2009?!

The 'About' tab amends that to 8800GT, embeds a YouTube trailer (HD), and reads in part

Rise of Flight is a state-of-the-art PC flight simulation title that sets a new standard in fidelity, beauty and realism. You can fly any one of several famous World War I fighter planes such as the Spad XIII, Fokker  D. VII, Albatros  D. V.a and the Nieuport 28 into aerial combat.

As a new fighter pilot you can fly several helpful Training Missions and once graduated, you can fly several Single-Player combat missions against a computer opponent. If you feel you have mastered the art of aerial combat you can embark on a Pilot Career and fly a historically accurate Campaign for the French, British, German or American air forces. You will be tasked with destroying enemy fighters, bombers and balloons, escorting your own bombers or attacking ground targets such as trains, trucks, tanks and artillery. As you complete your missions successfully you will be promoted and awarded commendations by your military high-command. You can rise through the ranks from a green Lieutenant all the way to full Colonel.

Rise of Flight features an advanced flight model that simulates the unique handling characteristics of WWI aircraft. Spins, stalls, loops, takeoffs and landings are all accurately modeled. The complex physics model simulates natural forces such as lift, g-force, inertia and torque, which allows for an amazing level of fidelity and interaction of objects within the game environment. The detailed and progressive damage model tracks the trajectory of every bullet and shell fragment, leaving no room for error. Stay in the line of fire too long and you’ll lose a wing or a tail, land too hard and the wooden spine of your plane will crack.

Historical references and modern computer graphics were combined to render 125,000 square kilometers of French countryside that is disfigured by a terribly cratered battlefield. Fluffy clouds fill the sky which you can fly into for cover. Rain and fog are also modeled in realistic detail making flying even more of a challenge as water drops cover your windscreen or goggles. Advanced graphics featuring moving shadows, depth of field, light bloom and reflections make the objects and scenery come to life in a very realistic way.

If you think you’re good enough, try flying against real human opponents over the Internet. Rise of Flight features a robust Multiplayer option designed to allow players to fly co-operatively as a team against the computer or human opponents. Multiplayer statistics such as aerial kills, targets destroyed and missions completed are tracked by neoqb servers.

And speaking of STALKER, this looks like another game out of Russkyland. Maybe they're a little less constrained to make bazillion-selling Madden clones over there. Minus one to capitalism. hmm

Well, give sturner and I a little time to save up, and Books'll have some (moderately) high-flyin', no-chute competition. W00ts.


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#3 2009-08-23 5:08 pm

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Re: An actual WWI Flight Sim? In 2009?!

OSX Skyfighters 1918

Very low system requirements, works on just about any Mac.


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#4 2009-08-23 6:19 pm

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#5 2009-08-23 6:43 pm

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Re: An actual WWI Flight Sim? In 2009?!

Problem with so many of the WWI sims people link...they all are just multiplayer crapshoots or arcade spamfests. Nothing has captured the classic Red Baron gameplay. But this new title does look good. I'd like to see what the main SP campaign looks like. However, this idea of buying aircraft to expand the game is just plain silly and stupid. Those planes should come standard, especially the S.E.5a which was one of the easiest planes to fly in the war and is a great beginner plane.

Must be something the Russians like but despite how good it looks, i'd rather replay classic Red Baron on an LCII than buy digital planes.


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#6 2009-08-24 1:36 am

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Re: An actual WWI Flight Sim? In 2009?!

I understand that many of those WWI planes had a crankshaft which remained fixed while the engine (with propeller attached) rotated around it. This huge gyroscope caused the plane to lurch up or down when the pilot tried to turn.  Landing was daunting.

If the sim faithfully reproduces this behavior, that would be something.

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#7 2009-08-24 2:21 am

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Re: An actual WWI Flight Sim? In 2009?!

Well the Airco DH.2 was known as the "Spinning Incinerator" in WWI for a reason. Very tempermental controls and it was known to explode at times. Add that with young aviators who didn't know much of what they were doing and it was a recipe for trouble.

However, this lil fighter was important to turning the tide of the Fokker Scourge till the Germans outclassed it with the Albatross.

Even Red Baron really couldn't relay the trouble pilots had with these early birds but I do remember when i'd run the campaign from 1914-18, that the DH2 was a bit more of a pain to keep steady in the air than others. So back then they had accounted for it. Least till they brought in the SE5 and Nieuport 17. Another funny plane which would literally fall apart in steep dives, well the lower wing would...heh big_smile.


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#8 2009-08-24 4:11 am

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Re: An actual WWI Flight Sim? In 2009?!

Turns out there are a fair number of related videos at YT- one is Physics, another, Explosions- both have HD version (even tho YT HD is 3/4 size; a 960px wide window for 720p-source vids). Lots of physics in the 'splodey trailer, tho.

Plenty of others- individual aircraft, multiplayer, etc. Just look at 'related.'

Good to see I'm not the only one with expertise on the subject- tho, typically, I've forgotten so much.

So meanwhile...

Take that, Dreamcast & OSX Skyfighters 1918! wink

That does look like a Brennish game, but even that's for platforms that aren't the DC or Mac.

Meanwhile, I wish for my aircraft to be painted red. cool


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#9 2009-08-24 4:15 am

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Re: An actual WWI Flight Sim? In 2009?!

Rise of Flight Physics Trailer (HD)

Holy mathematical crap! big_smile


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#10 2009-09-05 6:46 pm

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Dad's birthday is in a couple of days. I have ordered this for him.


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#11 2009-09-05 10:28 pm

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Re: An actual WWI Flight Sim? In 2009?!

What about Warbirds? They have a WWI simulator as well as the WWII. And they support both Mac and Windows play online.


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#12 2009-09-06 6:19 am

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Re: An actual WWI Flight Sim? In 2009?!

sturner wrote:

What about Warbirds? They have a WWI simulator as well as the WWII. And they support both Mac and Windows play online.

Warbirds is mostly online, no? I haven't kept up in ages, but that's my (dated) impession. I'm also quite out of date on the game engine- sysreqs, grfx, physics. Online being what it is, tho, I've a hunch they're dated too.

Bren wrote:

Dad's birthday is in a couple of days. I have ordered this for him.

GoGamer? It's 25% off there thru the weekend ($30, free shipping).

Edit: http://www.gogamer.com/Rise-of-Flight-- … ewprod.htm

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#13 2009-09-06 11:10 am

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Re: An actual WWI Flight Sim? In 2009?!

It is primarily online. They have an offline practice mode that is challenging though mind-numbing. The download and offline practice mode is free. Yes the sys requirements are for a more modern machine, though if you lower the graphics you can play it sufficiently well.


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#14 2009-09-06 7:41 pm

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Amazon; I wanted him to have a gift-wrapped pressie with an actual install DVD 'n stuff. I sure hope he's got an airplane-style controller.


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#15 2009-09-06 8:45 pm

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Re: An actual WWI Flight Sim? In 2009?!

Bren wrote:

Amazon; I wanted him to have a gift-wrapped pressie with an actual install DVD 'n stuff. I sure hope he's got an airplane-style controller.

I doubt you'd get gift-wrapping with free shipping, but GoGamer isn't a game download service. You get a box, with a disc an' ever'thing- why else would shipping costs apply at all? And I hope Dad's got a good rig wth RoF's sysreqs.

'Airplane-style controller' like the Saitek gear on the same page at GG? They're very good. I wish I had a USB-based X-35/6 setup from years ago. It's real enthusiast stuff. I'd likely settle for something like their Aviator Flight Stick, same page, tho. Gameports are going, or have gone, away.


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#16 2009-09-06 10:40 pm

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Top Gun Afterburner II is what I use. Saitek was too expensive.


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#17 2009-09-07 2:39 am

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I hear that. That's why I don't have anything of theirs.

'Fact, I won't get anything else until I have to. I have a Sidewinder joystick and wheel/pedal setup from the '98-'03 period, and will use it/them until they break and/or I can no longer install a gameport-equipped soundcard in my system[s].

Last time I saw something like that Flightstick, tho, it was their entry-level, ca. $20 product, yet felt solid like their other gear. Just simpler.


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#18 2009-09-07 3:05 am

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I had a Sidewinder or Sidewinder II that I found in the street. It worked once I scraped the contact of the USB connection, but I think maybe it had at some point been dipped in a vat of KY Jelly, 'cause it was always sticky.

I replaced it with a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro when I noticed it'd been marked down to $14.99 at my local Target. I just wish there were some decent flying games for the Mac that didn't have huge learning curves.


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#19 2009-09-07 4:15 am

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Re: An actual WWI Flight Sim? In 2009?!

Virtualization still seemingly iffy for games, your best bet for games in general on the Mac remains Boot Camp. The market on PC has always been so much larger, you have much more choice, games remain available longer, and most have demos. E.g., in a related genre, sometime soon I figure to give the demo for Starlancer (which NC is always raving about, given half a chance) a try- and that's from around 2000. I have loads of old mag demo discs around I'm now starting to consolidate.

Lots of full games accumulated over many years I ran out of time for, bargain priced, still run on my stuff; flight sims included. At least two serious helo sims included. Lots of good games now available on GoG.com; DL for cheep, patched to latest spec & modernized a bit where needed to run on Vista (that almost certainly means on Win7 too). No DRM and good for years more gaming.

Fact, with my '98SE/Voodoo 5 Legacy box close, I'll be back at Mechwarrior 2 soonish, with mouse/ kb/ joystick hybrid control, looking, sounding, playing better than ever.

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#20 2009-09-07 3:26 pm

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Re: An actual WWI Flight Sim? In 2009?!

All flight sims have a steep learning curve.


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#21 2009-09-07 7:43 pm

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Re: An actual WWI Flight Sim? In 2009?!

Not really. More arcade style flight sims you can get into real quick. The ones like Falcon or FA18 are the steep ones. Course those are geared to be realism things with more controls that you could think possible and a manual as thick as a dictionary. I perfer the in between ones. Where you have a blend of both. But the arcade style can be fun if it has a decent story to back it up.

Bat go play Starlancer and find out what you missed before we few remaining Starlancer nuts rise up and hunt you down tongue. Heck I think I got 2 copies of the game around here somewhere so if you like it, i'll send you one big_smile.


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#22 2009-09-07 11:14 pm

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Re: An actual WWI Flight Sim? In 2009?!

Warbirds is realism based, but because it's before fly by wire and computer and electronic fire controls it's a lot leaner. The basics of flight, and an iron sight is a short description of it. WWII and WWI flight simulators tend to be much simplier, though flying them can provide a steep learning curve, as will tactics of dogfighting.


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#23 2009-09-08 3:11 am

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Re: An actual WWI Flight Sim? In 2009?!

Ya I tend to prefer good WWI/II flight sims for that reason. Simple flight and you gotta learn proper dogfighting. Can't just sit a mile away firing missles nonstop. Well, cept in Wings of War but that was totally an arcade flight sim with WWI planes. Yet, it was fun for the same reasons. Heck it was littered with easter eggs that you could find. One level had a UFO on it and an alien invasion taking place around it.


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#24 2009-09-08 5:36 am

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Re: An actual WWI Flight Sim? In 2009?!

Lucasarts, we need SWOTL stat, 10-4, do you copy 'n' stuff, over? wink

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#25 2009-09-10 7:31 pm

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Re: An actual WWI Flight Sim? In 2009?!

Dad says his current rig has: dual core, 64 bit, 3Ghz, 4 gb RAM, with 500 mb graphics card, though he didn't say what kind of card. Hopefully this will be enough for Rise of Flight?


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