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#26 2009-09-24 8:53 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
(...and I really hope that this wasn't politically motivated, because that would be pretty smurfing terrible.)
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#28 2009-09-24 9:19 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
bratboy wrote:
(...and I really hope that this wasn't politically motivated, because that would be pretty smurfing terrible.)
A hanging of a census worker with writing on the corpse's chest that says "Feds"? IN RURAL KENTUCKY? Yeah, no politics there that's for sure. That's like lynching a black man in Mississippi and even considering that it wasn't racially motivated.
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#29 2009-09-24 9:23 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
Do surprised meth cookers really go through the trouble of lynching and putting a message on the body? At very least, this would appear to be the work of the sort of person who hasn't gotten mail in decades because he doesn't trust those feds who put strange things on his property daily.
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#30 2009-09-24 9:24 am
Re: The spirit of 9/12!
Whoa.
Our mod of the sod wants us to hold off drawing conclusions.
So.
Suicide?
Accident?
Angry husband/boyfriend?
Angry parent?
Someone with a tax problem with the Feds?
Someone growing hemp instead of tobacco?
There are a whole host of explanations that don't quite fit, imho.
Further, here's another supposition:
This took more than one person to do.
Brigid O'Shaughnessy: I haven't lived a good life. I've been bad, worse than you could know.
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#31 2009-09-24 9:28 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
Time may tell what was the reason for this murder.
It could have been political. My question is...how many "likely political" lone wolf killings have to happen before right-wing folks realize its an issue ? Five ? Ten ? Twenty ? Will it take a destructive mob killing a number of people before the evil talking heads of the right reign it in ?
I ask, because there's been three or four deaths in the past year already.
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#32 2009-09-24 9:28 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
Interesting tidbit: Clay County, Kentucky is the poorest majority non-Hispanic white county in the US, and voted for McCain by a 77.5% margin.
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#33 2009-09-24 9:30 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
bedstuy wrote:
bratboy wrote:
(...and I really hope that this wasn't politically motivated, because that would be pretty smurfing terrible.)
A hanging of a census worker with writing on the corpse's chest that says "Feds"? IN RURAL KENTUCKY? Yeah, no politics there that's for sure. That's like lynching a black man in Mississippi and even considering that it wasn't racially motivated.
Well, I mean, it's possible that someone had something personal against him and used this as a cover.
This really is a crazy story--did it just break? I hadn't heard anything about it prior to this morning.
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#34 2009-09-24 9:30 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
JakeTheTall wrote:
My question is...how many "likely political" lone wolf killings have to happen before right-wing folks realize its an issue ? Five ? Ten ? Twenty ? Will it take a destructive mob killing a number of people before the evil talking heads of the right reign it in ?
I ask, because there's been three or four deaths in the past year already.
Indeed, that went through my mind earlier. I was thinking you'd need to visually see Glenn Beck's mother with a guillotine before some crowds wake up.
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#35 2009-09-24 9:31 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
I can't even locate this story on CNN's front page.
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#36 2009-09-24 9:32 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
bratboy wrote:
This really is a crazy story--did it just break? I hadn't heard anything about it prior to this morning.
It broke last night, though the even actually happened two weeks ago. I think the part about "FEDS" is what had it surface in the news yesterday.
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#37 2009-09-24 9:34 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
You'd think this would be national news, but there's pretty much no information about it. And yeah, it happened weeks ago.
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#38 2009-09-24 9:36 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
Farmerkev wrote:
People are jumping to a whole lot of conclusions about this murder we basically know nothing about.
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#39 2009-09-24 9:50 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
bratboy wrote:
You'd think this would be national news, but there's pretty much no information about it. And yeah, it happened weeks ago.
This was my next question, one the right loves to use all the time: "why isn't this being picked up by the MSM ??!"
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#40 2009-09-24 9:55 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
Without more information, the most likely reason would be he ran across a crazy meth head.
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#41 2009-09-24 9:56 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
Do surprised meth cookers really go through the trouble of lynching and putting a message on the body?
Really, do they? I haven't known any so I can't say.
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#42 2009-09-24 10:05 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
Do the FBI / Feds have a known history of busting backwater meth labs ?
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#43 2009-09-24 10:08 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
bratboy wrote:
Michele Bachmann wrote:
If we look at American history, between 1942 and 1947, the data that was collected by the census bureau was handed over to the FBI and other organizations, at the request of President Roosevelt, and that’s how the Japanese were rounded up and put into the internment camps. I’m not saying that’s what the Administration is planning to do. But I am saying that private, personal information that was given to the census bureau in the 1940s was used against Americans to round them up.
Good god, that woman needs a muzzle.
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#44 2009-09-24 10:14 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
"Census employees were told Sparkman's truck was found nearby, and a computer he was using for work was found inside it"
Do crazy meth people leave stuff they could sell behind after they murder someone ?
I guess they might. Strange the truck wasn't pushed into a creek or chopped up.
Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet." They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.
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#45 2009-09-24 10:18 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
JakeTheTall wrote:
"Census employees were told Sparkman's truck was found nearby, and a computer he was using for work was found inside it"
Do crazy meth people leave stuff they could sell behind after they murder someone ?
I guess they might. Strange the truck wasn't pushed into a creek or chopped up.
How many politically motivated murders have happened against 1 no-name individual?
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#46 2009-09-24 10:21 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
Pithecanthropus wrote:
Good god, that woman needs a muzzle.
Oh, but wait--because she specifically denies that she believes the Obama administration is up to anything nefarious in regards to the Census, she gets a pass for drawing the comparison in the first place.
Plant the seed, then offer a denial. It (apparently) is quite effective.
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#47 2009-09-24 10:34 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
Farmerkev wrote:
JakeTheTall wrote:
"Census employees were told Sparkman's truck was found nearby, and a computer he was using for work was found inside it"
Do crazy meth people leave stuff they could sell behind after they murder someone ?
I guess they might. Strange the truck wasn't pushed into a creek or chopped up.How many politically motivated murders have happened against 1 no-name individual?
Lets narrow down the criteria until there's only one, that makes it better!
How many politically motivated murders have happened in the two hours after a Glenn Beck broadcast ?
Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet." They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.
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#48 2009-09-24 10:49 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
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The point is that those who lawfully express a political point of view are not responsible for illegal actions done in the name of that point of view that they do not condone and in fact disapprove above.
Mainstream "right wing" media does not condone of this action anymore than NPR approves of terrorists blowing up Israeli civilians.
Mainstream "right wing" media in fact strongly disapproves of this action just like NPR disapproved of terrorists blowing up Israeli civilians.
Get it?
Inciting riot.
Yes, there are instances and some have been prosecuted in the last 10 years, where someone lawfully expressed a political point of view, and was held liable for the illegal actions done in the name of that point of view.
It is usually easier to get the those that actually did the action than those who advocated it.
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#49 2009-09-24 11:01 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
Well, the legal standard is pretty high.
That doesn't mean there isn't a moral standard.
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#50 2009-09-24 11:05 am
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Re: The spirit of 9/12!
JakeTheTall wrote:
Farmerkev wrote:
JakeTheTall wrote:
"Census employees were told Sparkman's truck was found nearby, and a computer he was using for work was found inside it"
Do crazy meth people leave stuff they could sell behind after they murder someone ?
I guess they might. Strange the truck wasn't pushed into a creek or chopped up.How many politically motivated murders have happened against 1 no-name individual?
Lets narrow down the criteria until there's only one, that makes it better!
How many politically motivated murders have happened in the two hours after a Glenn Beck broadcast ?
So in other words you're not saying Obama is a terrorist, just that he grew up with them.
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