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I think the idea is to not wait until we have an emergency.

btw - Chickenhawk - please do not attribute stuff to me that I didn't say (your sig).

I don't agree with it being mandatory.  It's an extreme reaction to a legitimate concern.  My guess is that if these protests are more than a minority and gain any sort of coverage, the requirement will be shrunk to a smaller group or dropped.

radarman wrote:

This one's not even a tough call. We have a vaccine that isn't proved, has a history of causing more problems than it solves, and a law that forces people into a medical procedure against their will.

Care to back up those claims?  Especially the "more problems than it solves" bit.
The vaccine has already gone through a number of studies and uses the same technology and development process as the common, yearly flu vaccine.  It's a different target strain, but the risks remain minimal.  We have essentially 60-70 years of study regarding this vaccine.  It's quite safe.

Interesting -

No one can deny the dangers of vaccines. The measles, mumps, rubella (German measles) and polio vaccines, all contain live but weakened viruses. Although health officials tell you that polio has been wiped out in the US since 1979, they often fail to mention that all recorded cases of polio since that time are actually caused by the polio vaccine.

http://heartspring.net/flu_shot_side_effects.html

resedit wrote:

Interesting -

No one can deny the dangers of vaccines. The measles, mumps, rubella (German measles) and polio vaccines, all contain live but weakened viruses. Although health officials tell you that polio has been wiped out in the US since 1979, they often fail to mention that all recorded cases of polio since that time are actually caused by the polio vaccine.

http://heartspring.net/flu_shot_side_effects.html

So your source is implying that the handful of cases 'caused' by a vaccine outweigh the huge number prevented.

HURRRRR

Tallgeese wrote:

resedit wrote:

Interesting -

No one can deny the dangers of vaccines. The measles, mumps, rubella (German measles) and polio vaccines, all contain live but weakened viruses. Although health officials tell you that polio has been wiped out in the US since 1979, they often fail to mention that all recorded cases of polio since that time are actually caused by the polio vaccine.

http://heartspring.net/flu_shot_side_effects.html

So your source is implying that the handful of cases 'caused' by a vaccine outweigh the huge number prevented.

HURRRRR

Makes sense to me. I, for one, will not be getting a swine flu (err, H1N1) vaccine thanks to the doctors on this board. I'm horrified there has been no advancement in vaccination or other healthcare in 30 years.

Last edited by danielb0101 (2009-09-29 10:46 pm)

Tallgeese wrote:

So your source is implying that the handful of cases 'caused' by a vaccine outweigh the huge number prevented.

HURRRRR

I don't know what my source implies, but what I'm outright stating is that receiving it should be choice.

If you choose to receive it and I do not, then you don't have to worry about catching it from me, do you?

resedit wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

So your source is implying that the handful of cases 'caused' by a vaccine outweigh the huge number prevented.

HURRRRR

I don't know what my source implies, but what I'm outright stating is that receiving it should be choice.

And your source has bugger all to do with what you're outright stating.

So be explicit: what was the point of quoting what you did?

Tallgeese wrote:

So be explicit: what was the point of quoting what you did?

Demonstration that vaccinations do have side effects that many people do not want to risk, especially for a disease that isn't fatal in their demographic (unless NY health has a tendency to hire high school students).

resedit wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

So be explicit: what was the point of quoting what you did?

Demonstration that vaccinations do have side effects that many people do not want to risk, especially for a disease that isn't fatal in their demographic (unless NY health has a tendency to hire high school students).

so 1 in a million chance of vaccine related death...

Its currently a 1 in 500,000 chance of dying from the swine flu.

I'll take my chances with the vaccine.

Chickenhawk wrote:

resedit wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

So be explicit: what was the point of quoting what you did?

Demonstration that vaccinations do have side effects that many people do not want to risk, especially for a disease that isn't fatal in their demographic (unless NY health has a tendency to hire high school students).

so 1 in a million chance of vaccine related death...

Its currently a 1 in 500,000 chance of dying from the swine flu.

I'll take my chances with the vaccine.

And that's a fine choice for you to make.

JakeTheTall wrote:

Refusing steps to increase herd immunity is stupid.

Rugged individualism!