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#1 2009-10-05 9:43 am

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I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

Wow! It's so much faster than running Windows in VMWare Fusion or Virtual PC! This is crazy!

Now then, I need some advice:

If you were lookin' to play some video games on a GMA950 iMac running XP, which games would you be wanting to play?

And where might I find free demos to download?

Right now I'm enjoying the Clearview RC flight simulator demo. There are almost no RC flight sims for OS X, so it's nice to be able to finally play around with one, though I can't get sound to work on it.

Thankew for your input...


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#2 2009-10-05 11:21 am

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

GMA950?

Well, StarCraft, obviously. MechWarrior 4 should work fine too.


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#3 2009-10-05 11:34 am

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

NooOOooOOOoOOOoOOoooOOOO!!!!






*sigh*






Ok. I hear that games work better on the Windows side than the Mac side. So those games that barely worked on the Mac, should work fine on Windows.

Here's a guide for games that work on the GMA 950:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/25180 … ility-list

Make sure to browse the comments as there are links to other lists and/or other compatible games mentioned.

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#4 2009-10-05 1:15 pm

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

I'm surprised Mechwarrior isn't on the list - it worked fine on a Rage 128.


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#5 2009-10-05 6:38 pm

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

Thank you, thank you, I shall look into this.

I am really disturbed to report that Internet Exploder under XP is waaayyyyy faster than Safari, Firefox, Flock, or any other browser I've ever used in OS X: The pages load and render on my screen so quickly, it's almost like magic!


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#6 2009-10-05 6:48 pm

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

Come to the PC side...it is your destiny!! sneaky lol


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#7 2009-10-05 7:20 pm

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

I like how Starcraft is the first suggestion for Bootcamp gaming.

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#8 2009-10-05 10:14 pm

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Thats cause of all the Mac fanatics who foolishly bought Macs with Intel graphics then wonder later why they can't play any new titles on it lol. Starcraft is prolly one of the few you can run with max everything. Those lists of what works are one thing, but what works at max detail/etc...thats another.


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#9 2009-10-05 10:22 pm

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

Starcraft has no detail settings. It's all bitmaps/sprites.


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#10 2009-10-05 11:20 pm

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

AND IT CAME OUT 11 YEARS AGO

edit: nothing against starcraft or its age or its quality, it's just that it's a hybrid game.

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#11 2009-10-06 2:04 am

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

elpato84 wrote:

AND IT CAME OUT 11 YEARS AGO

And consequently uses only DirectDraw, not D3D. It's a 2D game, unlike SC2, slated for DX10.1.


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#12 2009-10-06 11:57 pm

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

It's all about Deus Ex.

Pretty sure most of the Unreal Series would work well except for Unreal Tournament 3.


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#13 2009-10-07 12:45 am

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

Well most of the UT series is more CPU bound.


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#14 2009-10-07 4:56 am

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

Aren't there Mac versions of Unreal? The whole point is to be able to do stuff I can't do in OS X.


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#15 2009-10-07 9:31 am

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

Bren wrote:

Aren't there Mac versions of Unreal? The whole point is to be able to do stuff I can't do in OS X.

X-Com, then.

More seriously, the GMA950 is about equivalet, iirc, to a low end Geforce 2. So, any game that came out before 2002/3 or so should work fine - assuming it's new enough to work in XP.


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#16 2009-10-07 1:21 pm

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

dv wrote:

Bren wrote:

Aren't there Mac versions of Unreal? The whole point is to be able to do stuff I can't do in OS X.

X-Com, then.

More seriously, the GMA950 is about equivalet, iirc, to a low end Geforce 2. So, any game that came out before 2002/3 or so should work fine - assuming it's new enough to work in XP.

Most back to at least '98 should, really, when you learn about Compatibility Mode[s]. Not a few DOS games work under XP. Mid-90s DOS games with sound are the toughest- IRQ/DMA soundcard resource issues; early '90s DOS w/no sound could actually be easier. And DOSBOX solves almost all. Otherwise there are Compat modes available back to Win '95 that adjust something like 200 environment variables.


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#17 2009-10-07 2:16 pm

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

Bren wrote:

Wow! It's so much faster than running Windows in VMWare Fusion or Virtual PC! This is crazy!
[snip]

Um, you were expecting that running Windows directly on your iMac would run at a comparable speed to those emulations you mentioned?


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#18 2009-10-07 3:30 pm

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

D'Eyncourt wrote:

Bren wrote:

Wow! It's so much faster than running Windows in VMWare Fusion or Virtual PC! This is crazy!
[snip]

Um, you were expecting that running Windows directly on your iMac would run at a comparable speed to those emulations you mentioned?

If one read the advertising materials for Parallels or Fusion, they'd be forgiven for thinking that it ran faster under virtualization.


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#19 2009-10-08 9:52 am

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

D'Eyncourt wrote:

Bren wrote:

Wow! It's so much faster than running Windows in VMWare Fusion or Virtual PC! This is crazy!
[snip]

Um, you were expecting that running Windows directly on your iMac would run at a comparable speed to those emulations you mentioned?

No, of course not. I expected it to be faster; I was just expressing the joy I felt upon realizing how much faster it was.


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#20 2009-10-08 10:38 am

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

Well, I'm STILL trying to get my verdamnt XP SP2 on my Boot Camp partition to upgrade to SP3.

The stupid thing is still screwing up the install. It doesn't take or it corrupts itself.

Let me count the ways that I love Microsoft.


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#21 2009-10-08 2:07 pm

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

sturner wrote:

Well, I'm STILL trying to get my verdamnt XP SP2 on my Boot Camp partition to upgrade to SP3.

The stupid thing is still screwing up the install. It doesn't take or it corrupts itself.

Let me count the ways that I love Microsoft.

Starting with 0, or already into negative numbers? smile

More seriously, have you tried it from the SP3 redistributable?* My first try, updating online, failed too. Also, it's easy to slipstream SP3 into your original CD, and nuke 'n' pave from that. Several advantages to that approach.


*The redistrib was on a different partition. You could likely get the same result with SP3 burned to disc.


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#22 2009-10-08 2:43 pm

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

I've downloaded the SP3 distro that is on an .iso image, and will likely punish myself with that tonight.

And as recompense for doing so I am looking forward to watching you die an excruciating death from zombies.

Or if you have $20 you don't mind using, purchase Red Orchestra, and then download Darkest Hour, and we can re-fight WWII.

I'll teach you how to use a sniper rifle, and machine gun.


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#23 2009-10-08 4:05 pm

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

Point narrow end at squishy thing that screams and bleeds?


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#24 2009-10-08 4:19 pm

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

That works too.


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#25 2009-10-08 5:08 pm

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Re: I finally used Boot Camp to install XP on my iMac...

sturner wrote:

I've downloaded the SP3 distro that is on an .iso image, and will likely punish myself with that tonight.

And as recompense for doing so I am looking forward to watching you die an excruciating death from zombies.

Well, at least now I have a good idea what you mean when you bill yourself as a 'team player.' tongue

Or if you have $20 you don't mind using, purchase Red Orchestra, and then download Darkest Hour, and we can re-fight WWII.

I'll teach you how to use a sniper rifle, and machine gun.

$20ses are in correspondingly shorter supply than two-fittys, esp. after getting L4D, ODST and {gasp} groceries within 6 weeks of each other; but I've played with Books recently. Ask him next time if I need sniping or automatic weapons training. 'Sides, me good in tanks too, and you suck at Vs. mode. (Hint: this is me recently putting one shot thru three Grunts in motion- at night. With a bum controller. [Suggest View High Res, tho that might be blocked after one or two folks do]).

There are some even in TX with Tree-sittys. Find one, and I'll aim you at some recent games w/Books. cool

RO & DH down the road apiece, likely when on sale. And I'll show you where the iron crosses grow. (Now what would that be from..? big_smile)

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