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#1 2009-10-07 3:37 pm
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Making cappuccino
I dusted off our low-end espresso maker that can also do cappuccinos and have proceeded to make a passable cup of cappuccino.
I have a suitably heavy roast, fine milled, and have looked up the various videos and how tos.
Question: Should one steam and froth the milk directly into the cappuccino, or into a separate container, and then pour the steamed and frothed milk into the cappuccino?
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#2 2009-10-07 3:53 pm
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Re: Making cappuccino
you should steam and froth the milk in a cold metal container, then pour it into the coffee.
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#3 2009-10-07 4:46 pm
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Re: Making cappuccino
What Chickenhawk said. Froth your milk first, then make your espresso shot, not the other way around or your shot will "die." I worked as a barista for a lot of years and here's what I'd do:
1. Set up the shot
2. Pour cold milk into a cold metal pitcher
3. Froth the milk and set it aside
4. Shoot the shot
5. Pour the shot into the cup
6. Use a knife or small spatula to hold back the froth while pouring the milk into the cup*
7. Add froth to the top of the drink*
* For a "true" cappuccino, you should use the same amount of espresso, milk and froth (approx. 1-1/2 oz. each).
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#4 2009-10-07 6:05 pm
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For small machines, in an effort to save some dough, there's a number of camping coffee cups which are made of aluminum. Those serve well for frothing milk. Be careful not to scrape the bottom of the cup with the frother, though.
Otherwise, what Pithy said. Those are the most concise instructions I've ever seen.
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#5 2009-10-07 6:58 pm
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Re: Making cappuccino
Pithecanthropus wrote:
What Chickenhawk said. Froth your milk first, then make your espresso shot, not the other way around or your shot will "die." I worked as a barista for a lot of years and here's what I'd do:
1. Set up the shot
2. Pour cold milk into a cold metal pitcher
3. Froth the milk and set it aside
4. Shoot the shot
5. Pour the shot into the cup
6. Use a knife or small spatula to hold back the froth while pouring the milk into the cup*
7. Add froth to the top of the drink*
* For a "true" cappuccino, you should use the same amount of espresso, milk and froth (approx. 1-1/2 oz. each).
QFT - this man knows what he's talking about. 
I have an el-cheap too, and it has a rubber boot on the frothing wand - not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but I always get lots of foam.
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#6 2009-10-07 7:22 pm
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Noob question, but why cold milk? Won't that cool the cappuccino? Or is that the point, what with the shot being really hot?
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#7 2009-10-08 9:59 am
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Re: Making cappuccino
You use steam to froth the milk. When you steam/froth the milk you bring it up to about 180 degree F.
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#8 2009-10-08 12:18 pm
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Re: Making cappuccino
I thought you put a few spoons of cappuccino mix in a mug, add hot water and stir vigorously. 
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#9 2009-10-08 1:41 pm
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Re: Making cappuccino
jkahless wrote:
I thought you put a few spoons of cappuccino mix in a mug, add hot water and stir vigorously.

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#10 2009-10-08 1:47 pm
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Just joshin'!
I'm saving up for an espresso machine my own self.
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#11 2009-10-08 2:01 pm
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Re: Making cappuccino
jkahless wrote:
I thought you put a few spoons of cappuccino mix in a mug, add hot water and stir vigorously.
Or just press a button at your local gas station. 
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#12 2009-10-08 2:11 pm
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Re: Making cappuccino
Pithecanthropus wrote:
jkahless wrote:
I thought you put a few spoons of cappuccino mix in a mug, add hot water and stir vigorously.
Or just press a button at your local gas station. http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/puke.gif
At the gas pump or the air pump? More froth at the latter. 
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#13 2009-10-08 2:46 pm
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Re: Making cappuccino
McCafe is an experience that you truly have to be desperate for coffee to endure.
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#14 2009-10-08 4:10 pm
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Or you just want caffeine plus monopoly tickets.
My wife loves the stuff, even with a perfectly good french press at home.
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#15 2009-10-08 11:48 pm
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Re: Making cappuccino
But back to elpato's question… what's the deal with cold milk in particular? I mean, I know you'd want fresh milk… nothing sour or anything… but how does having the milk particularly cold to start with contribute to the end result?
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#17 2009-10-09 12:32 am
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Re: Making cappuccino
It probably also has something to do with the need to have time to create the foam before the milk hits 180 degrees american.
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#18 2009-10-10 7:10 am
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Re: Making cappuccino
jkahless wrote:
It probably also has something to do with the need to have time to create the foam before the milk hits 180 degrees american.
All temps should be spec'ed and assumed to be in American degrees. Surprisingly sensible of you.
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#19 2009-10-10 8:23 am
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I think talking about 180 degrees, it's fairly obvious you ain't talking centigrade/celsius.
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#20 2009-10-10 10:33 am
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Re: Making cappuccino
Jokotai wrote:
I think hit has to do with the rapid temperature exchange.
Correct. Room temperature milk will come to 180 faster than refrigerated milk and you won't get as much froth, and the froth you would get wouldn't be of good quality.
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#21 2009-10-10 10:39 am
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Re: Making cappuccino
can you/should you use half/half instead of milk?
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#22 2009-10-10 1:52 pm
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Sure you can, then it's called a "breve" cappuccino. Should you? That's between you and your cardiologist.
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#23 2009-10-10 7:47 pm
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resedit wrote:
I think talking about 180 degrees, it's fairly obvious you ain't talking centigrade/celsius.
For a water based liquid at one atmosphere? Yeah. Though I figure it's best to state units in every case, especially when using non standard units.
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#24 2009-10-11 3:02 pm
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Re: Making cappuccino
I love me a good breve.
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