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#26 2009-10-10 8:43 am

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Re: In the Waters Off Somalia, ... OOOPPPSSS!

Thats a great song!


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#27 2009-10-10 9:52 am

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Re: In the Waters Off Somalia, ... OOOPPPSSS!

One of the issues with African piracy is the warlords use it to fund their revolution.
There isn't a hell of a lot we can do about that short of occupation.

The warlords intentionally disrupt humanitarian aid efforts because they want the villages on the brink of starvation. With the villages on the brink of starvation, they can use food as motive to enlist the young boys into their militias.

It is a very serious problem and one that does not have a simple answer.


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#28 2009-10-10 9:58 am

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Re: In the Waters Off Somalia, ... OOOPPPSSS!

resedit wrote:

The warlords intentionally disrupt humanitarian aid efforts because they want the villages on the brink of starvation. With the villages on the brink of starvation, they can use food as motive to enlist the young boys into their militias.

It is a very serious problem and one that does not have a simple answer.

Especially since a "more civilized" version of it exists right here in America.


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#29 2009-10-10 10:00 am

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Re: In the Waters Off Somalia, ... OOOPPPSSS!

I might actually agree with you.
What are you referring to?


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#30 2009-10-10 10:11 am

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Re: In the Waters Off Somalia, ... OOOPPPSSS!

Jokotai wrote:

Somalia isn't using piracy as a national solution to their problems, just like Nigeria isn't endorsing people to write emails on behalf of deposed princes.  A group of individuals did.  If they hadn't mistakenly boarded a French ship, then they most likely would have terrorized, robbed, and perhaps even killed innocent victims.  So, I choose to laugh at their faux pas.  There's a certain degree of karmic justice there, no?

The Somalian pirates historically haven’t been killers, they just want money.


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#31 2009-10-10 9:51 pm

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Re: In the Waters Off Somalia, ... OOOPPPSSS!

That may very well prove to be true, but carrying a Kalashnikov rifle while committing a crime is a threat of lethal force; and according to the article, they did open fire in the darkness aboard the French vessel.


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#32 2009-10-11 12:53 am

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Re: In the Waters Off Somalia, ... OOOPPPSSS!

resedit wrote:

I might actually agree with you.

NUH UH

What are you referring to?

And while you all slumbered
We sat and crunched numbers
Of all the casualties we could afford
There's no need to draft 'em
You could hear us laughin'
The poor and black still need their room and board
Did I say that out loud?


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#33 2009-10-11 1:57 am

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Re: In the Waters Off Somalia, ... OOOPPPSSS!

radarman wrote:

jerwin wrote:

radarman wrote:

However, they aren't doing that. They are hijacking ships and putting people in danger for profit. As long as that is the case, I have zero problem with using extreme force against them. In fact, I think we should send a solid navy down there, with satellite support, to hunt down the pirates and end their scourge. It would also help if we could hunt down the poachers and polluters as well, to take away any reason for further piracy.

Satellite Support? Whoa whoa whoa. Slow down cowboy! Satellite support is expensive. I say we send in a carrier group, and wait and see whether satellite support is warranted.

There is a lot of water to cover, and carriers can't be everywhere. Besides, a carrier is overkill. A few destroyers would do the job nicely. Given the location of this particular scum, they probably don't even need to retask them very much, as I suspect they already get lots of pictures of the middle east.

That's starting to sound awfully a lot like work.  I say we just bomb a bunch of buildings and then have the president photographed in front of a banner saying Mission Complete or something.  It worked in Iraq!  What is left of them will cower in our hubris.

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