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#1 2009-10-13 5:17 pm

jerwin
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Orly Taitz: now poorer by $20,000

Birther lawyer Taitz slapped with $20,000 sanction

Shoot. I guess you guys want commentary. Hmm Let's see.

loltongue

Will that do?

The court further directs the Clerk of this Court to send a copy of this order to the State Bar of California for whatever use it deems appropriate

Probably standard, but to this non lawyer, it sounds like a "coup de grace".

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#2 2009-10-13 5:41 pm

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Re: Orly Taitz: now poorer by $20,000


"and it's not surprising that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
Barack Obama

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#3 2009-10-13 5:49 pm

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Re: Orly Taitz: now poorer by $20,000

NO WAI!!!


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#4 2009-10-13 6:20 pm

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Re: Orly Taitz: now poorer by $20,000

Dadgummit! I was just about to start up the ORLY! Legal Defense Fund, but I guess someone beat me to it. sad


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#5 2009-10-14 12:52 am

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Re: Orly Taitz: now poorer by $20,000

jerwin wrote:

The court further directs the Clerk of this Court to send a copy this order to the State Bar of California for whatever use it deems appropriate

Within these forums is both a lawyer and an English Major™.  Why is it that legalese and clear grammar hardly ever have anything to do with one another?  Seriously, my wife and I are currently involved in a lawsuit and all of this legal copy gives me a headache.


There's what you love to do, and then there's what you get paid to do.  Those two things are often different.

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#6 2009-10-14 1:16 am

jerwin
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Re: Orly Taitz: now poorer by $20,000

Jokotai wrote:

jerwin wrote:

The court further directs the Clerk of this Court to send a copy of this order to the State Bar of California for whatever use it deems appropriate

Within these forums is both a lawyer and an English Major™.  Why is it that legalese and clear grammar hardly ever have anything to do with one another?  Seriously, my wife and I are currently involved in a lawsuit and all of this legal copy gives me a headache.

Perhaps I mistyped.


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#7 2009-10-14 1:43 am

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Re: Orly Taitz: now poorer by $20,000

jerwin wrote:

Jokotai wrote:

jerwin wrote:

Within these forums is both a lawyer and an English Major™.  Why is it that legalese and clear grammar hardly ever have anything to do with one another?  Seriously, my wife and I are currently involved in a lawsuit and all of this legal copy gives me a headache.

Perhaps I mistyped.

Perhaps you did, but it wasn't my intention to highlight a grammatical error.  It was more an observation of how the court system espouses a complex vernacular which is not shared by the constituents which occasionally must face it.  During our research (since we can't afford a lawyer), we've found numerous incidents where a person who has used reasonable language which wasn't in the same style as the courts was summarily judged against since their response was considered contemptuous.

Maybe, though, this post doesn't really belong in the thread.  It's just my frustration.

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#8 2009-10-14 12:06 pm

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Re: Orly Taitz: now poorer by $20,000

Jokotai wrote:

It was more an observation of how the court system espouses a complex vernacular which is not shared by the constituents which occasionally must face it.

OMFG, STFU ORLY! I will pWN J00!!!11!!

No U STFU.

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#9 2009-10-14 12:10 pm

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Re: Orly Taitz: now poorer by $20,000

Orly needs to be disbarred.


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#10 2009-10-14 12:12 pm

jerwin
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Re: Orly Taitz: now poorer by $20,000

Pithecanthropus wrote:

Orly needs to be disbarred.

That's up to the state bar.


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#11 2009-10-14 1:43 pm

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Re: Orly Taitz: now poorer by $20,000

Pithecanthropus wrote:

Orly needs to be disbarred.

It took years for a disbarment hearing to take place and stick for Jack Thompson. And that's a guy would would send pornography to state officials for smurfs and giggles.

This would have a long way yet.


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#12 2009-10-14 4:14 pm

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Re: Orly Taitz: now poorer by $20,000

Anonymous Delivers! wrote:

Pithecanthropus wrote:

Orly needs to be disbarred.

It took years for a disbarment hearing to take place and stick for Jack Thompson. And that's a guy would would send pornography to state officials for smurfs and giggles.

This would have a long way yet.

Well, now the court has a precedence to use, so the process for Taitz should be that much shorter. smile


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#13 2009-10-14 4:40 pm

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Re: Orly Taitz: now poorer by $20,000

Someone needs to take a fine toothed comb to her immigration papers.
Be a sweet irony if they were out of order and she ended up back in her native Moldova.


"and it's not surprising that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
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#14 2009-10-14 7:04 pm

jerwin
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Re: Orly Taitz: now poorer by $20,000

Pariah wrote:

Someone needs to take a fine toothed comb to her immigration papers.
Be a sweet irony if they were out of order and she ended up back in her native Moldova.

Perhaps a lighter touch. Martyrdom isn't what the movement needs.


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