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#1 2009-10-19 1:33 am
Daylight Savings Time is Fascism
This is government arrogance at its worst. And it's been going on for so long that most people don't even question it. Sheep.
What is more fundamental than time itself? Would it be OK for the government to decree that from November to February the gallon is 3.5 quarts in order to offset fuel costs? I cry bullsmurf!
So we don't want kids to walk to school in the dark. We all like kids. So how's this for a solution: start school later! I didn't much like school anyway. Some History classes were good. Some of the science too. And Band was a nice way to accumulate credits.
Come to think of it, we had to get to school an hour before regular school started for Marching Band practice. Where was the outrage then? No pity for the poor band members walking to school before dawn? Freakin' hypocrites. Hope the drum section didn't wake you up.
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#2 2009-10-19 1:42 am
Re: Daylight Savings Time is Fascism
I read somewhere that when daylight savings time was introduced, a group of farmers complained to the government that the extra hour of sunlight was likely to burn their crops.
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#3 2009-10-19 7:05 am
Re: Daylight Savings Time is Fascism
It's not for the kids not going to school in the dark.
Those farmers where stupid.
It's to save energy. Lights don't need to be on if the sun is up. (ok, I really don't know, but I think that's the reason for it)
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#4 2009-10-19 7:09 am
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Re: Daylight Savings Time is Fascism
for what it's worth:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time
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#5 2009-10-19 7:40 am
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Re: Daylight Savings Time is Fascism
Hey mackerm, why don't you move to Puerto Rico, we have beautiful beaches, busy highways, busier metro area, a lot of tourist atractions, a warm climate and best of all no daylights savings time.
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#6 2009-10-19 8:16 am
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Re: Daylight Savings Time is Fascism
or just be a farmer.
sun comes up, your workin.
sun in the middle of the sky, eat lunch.
sun goes down, you go eat supper.
meh, who needs a watch for it, the rice and the cows dam sure don't change their schedules.
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#7 2009-10-19 8:41 am
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Re: Daylight Savings Time is Fascism
Time is a concept.
Grandfatherly advice: You can drink 'em pretty, but you can't drink 'em smart.
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#8 2009-10-19 8:47 am
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Re: Daylight Savings Time is Fascism
Pithecanthropus wrote:
Time is a concept.
invented by scientists so everything doesn't happen at once.
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#9 2009-10-19 8:48 am
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Re: Daylight Savings Time is Fascism
mackerm wrote:
So we don't want kids to walk to school in the dark. We all like kids. So how's this for a solution: start school later!.
I think most school districts try to start school before the typical 9:00am workday, so most parents can see their kids off to school.
I never understood people's hostility to daylight savings time. The anger is more widespread that I ever thought.
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#10 2009-10-19 8:54 am
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Re: Daylight Savings Time is Fascism
people hold grudges and really get pissed when they have that hour stolen from them in the middle of the night each Spring.
give em an hour in the Fall and they take it and run with a smile.
but take? heaven forbid.
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#11 2009-10-19 9:04 am
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Re: Daylight Savings Time is Fascism
I don't like it either way because it messes with my sleep schedule.
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#12 2009-10-19 9:32 am
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Re: Daylight Savings Time is Fascism
mackerm wrote:
We all like kids.
No, we don't.
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#13 2009-10-19 10:25 am
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Re: Daylight Savings Time is Fascism
mackerm wrote:
This is government arrogance at its worst. And it's been going on for so long that most people don't even question it. Sheep.
What is more fundamental than time itself? Would it be OK for the government to decree that from November to February the gallon is 3.5 quarts in order to offset fuel costs? I cry bullsmurf!
So we don't want kids to walk to school in the dark. We all like kids. So how's this for a solution: start school later! I didn't much like school anyway. Some History classes were good. Some of the science too. And Band was a nice way to accumulate credits.
Come to think of it, we had to get to school an hour before regular school started for Marching Band practice. Where was the outrage then? No pity for the poor band members walking to school before dawn? Freakin' hypocrites. Hope the drum section didn't wake you up.
Are you serious, satirizing conspiracy theorists who flip out about DST, or high?
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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#14 2009-10-19 11:17 am
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Re: Daylight Savings Time is Fascism
Robert B. wrote:
mackerm wrote:
We all like kids.
No, we don't.
but Robert.. some are quite the tasty
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#15 2009-10-19 12:39 pm
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iSeamas wrote:
I never understood people's hostility to daylight savings time. The anger is more widespread that I ever thought.
No-get it straight.
DST is awesome. -It is standard time that sucks.
And this thread is too early. justine is supposed to remind us to change our clocks and then everyone bitches about standard time.
Now the clocks and the forum are both out of whack. 
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#16 2009-10-19 1:14 pm
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gd wrote:
Hey mackerm, why don't you move to Puerto Rico, we have beautiful beaches, busy highways, busier metro area, a lot of tourist atractions, a warm climate and best of all no daylights savings time.
I may just take you up on that.
macnuke wrote:
or just be a farmer.
sun comes up, your workin.
sun in the middle of the sky, eat lunch.
sun goes down, you go eat supper.
meh, who needs a watch for it, the rice and the cows dam sure don't change their schedules.
Farmers need to watch CSI: Miami just like everyone else.
Tallgeese wrote:
Are you serious, satirizing conspiracy theorists who flip out about DST, or high?
Possibly all three.
decker wrote:
iSeamas wrote:
I never understood people's hostility to daylight savings time. The anger is more widespread that I ever thought.
No-get it straight.
DST is awesome. -It is standard time that sucks.
And this thread is too early. justine is supposed to remind us to change our clocks and then everyone bitches about standard time.
Now the clocks and the forum are both out of whack.
Now that you mention it, I think they changed the duration of DST a couple of years back. My inner biological clock is telling me to start complaining about it now.
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#17 2009-10-19 8:44 pm
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Re: Daylight Savings Time is Fascism
macnuke wrote:
or just be a farmer.
sun comes up, your workin.
sun in the middle of the sky, eat lunch.
sun goes down, you go eat supper.
meh, who needs a watch for it, the rice and the cows dam sure don't change their schedules.

Cows know when its milking time. You know when it gets to be 4:30 because you start to see the cows lining up by the barn door and they start getting cranky if you aren't out there by 5 to let them in. You know its lunch time when you start getting hungry (good for those cloudy days). Supper gets eaten after the cows are tucked in for the night.
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#18 2009-10-19 9:40 pm
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Re: Daylight Savings Time is Fascism
Standard time is in the winter, and that's what you're ranting about. If you can't construct a rant thread properly then please step away from your computer.
I'd also say Daylight Saving Time is more a creation of government, and Standard originally was implemented by the railroad companies before being nationally adopted.
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#19 2009-10-19 9:47 pm
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Did somebody mention railroad times?
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#20 2009-10-19 10:52 pm
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bedstuy wrote:
Standard time is in the winter, and that's what you're ranting about. If you can't construct a rant thread properly then please step away from your computer.
The thing I'm calmly protesting is the semiannual mandate to change what should be immutable. Since Daylight Saving is the name of the bright idea that causes this moronic inconvenience, I used that name. And again, would it be acceptable for well-meaning government bureaucrats to redefine the gallon every few months? How about the kilowatt-hour?
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#21 2009-10-19 10:54 pm
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Re: Daylight Savings Time is Fascism
Seconds, minutes, hours, days are all unchanged in duration.
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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#22 2009-10-19 10:55 pm
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Also, fascism doesn't mean what you think it means.
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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#23 2009-10-19 11:24 pm
Re: Daylight Savings Time is Fascism
Tallgeese wrote:
Seconds, minutes, hours, days are all unchanged in duration.
The length of Days are changed in duration.
Also, fascism doesn't mean what you think it means.
uhhh, how 'bout "icky"?
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#24 2009-10-19 11:25 pm
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Re: Daylight Savings Time is Fascism
mackerm wrote:
Tallgeese wrote:
Seconds, minutes, hours, days are all unchanged in duration.
The length of Days are changed in duration.
No.
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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#25 2009-10-19 11:26 pm
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Re: Daylight Savings Time is Fascism
Go live in Arizona.
And, by the way, why do you hate Benjamen Franklin? He first proposed Daylight Savings Time.
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