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#1 2009-11-03 7:41 pm

Bren
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V

Forgive me if there's already a thread about this. I searched, but did not find.

Just watched the first eight minutes on Hulu:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/104096/v-a-first-look-at-v

I'd say I really hope the next eight minutes are going to be better, but at this point there's no reason to hold out that hope.

Remember how the original Battlestar Galactica was cheesy crap, but got "re-imagined" into one of the best TV series ever?

Remember how the original V was also cheesy crap (with the possible exception of the pilot miniseries)? Well if you were expecting another BSG style transformation, you're going to be disappointed.

What I just watched did not contain one original thought, concept, or piece of dialogue. And regarding that guy in the wheelchair on the steps of the church? How the heck did he get up there!? He's in a wheelchair!

I suppose the writers really felt like patting themselves on the back with that reference to ID4. Too bad this thing's shaping up to be just as awful.


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#2 2009-11-03 8:16 pm

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Re: V

what did you really expect?


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#3 2009-11-03 8:18 pm

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The original miniseries has a "long wait" on Netflix sad


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#4 2009-11-03 8:33 pm

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Re: V

They've been replaying the original series on Syfy, set your TiVo.


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#5 2009-11-03 8:34 pm

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There are only two problems with that idea...


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#6 2009-11-03 8:35 pm

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Re: V

No cable and no TiVo?

There are... options...

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#7 2009-11-03 11:19 pm

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Re: V

What I remember from the original series is that one of the ETs swallowed a cat.

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#8 2009-11-03 11:27 pm

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You're thinking of ALF.


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#9 2009-11-03 11:38 pm

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It was actually a hamster or something.


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#10 2009-11-03 11:40 pm

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You're thinking of Richard Gere.


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#11 2009-11-04 5:58 am

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Re: V

V is seriously tier 3 in the back corner of the comic book convention.


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#12 2009-11-04 9:01 am

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Re: V

I'm going to give it a chance. I watched the original back in 1983 as it started cool, but disintegrated into something stupid.

There are far more stupid things on TV, and most of them were on at the same time as V.

(But I agree with you about the wheelchair guy, I noticed that right away.)


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#13 2009-11-04 9:06 am

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Re: V

Hey, we win in the end. What more do you need to know?


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#14 2009-11-04 9:17 am

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Re: V

Morena Baccarin.


Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.

Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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#15 2009-11-04 12:40 pm

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Re: V

It bothered me that in the OG series it was the Holocaust surviving old man who teaches kids to tag "V" as a sort of revolutionary freedom fighting message, and in the episode I saw last night, they had the Nazi Youth styled kids tagging it as a positive viral recruitment video for the alien New World Order.


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#16 2009-11-04 1:17 pm

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When I saw the original series all I could think of was: "They are here for our water???"

H2O is likely the most common compound in the universe. We have entire moons in our solar system which are mostly water.


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#17 2009-11-04 2:41 pm

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Re: V

I watched the first episode last night. More plausible then reality TV but overall, "whatever". I'll probably keep watching for a few episodes but I expect V will go away soon.


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#18 2009-11-04 4:31 pm

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Water was the reason behind Ice Pirates, too. tongue


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#19 2009-11-04 6:27 pm

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Re: V

They are here for our precious fluids.


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#20 2009-11-04 8:22 pm

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Watched the show. I get it now: It's anti health-care reform, anti-Obama propaganda.

OMGNAZIMUSLIMREPTILIANS!!!

As is the case with so many Hollywood schlock movies, I'm really rooting for the villain, 'cause she's the only character that's even a little bit interesting.


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#21 2009-11-04 8:31 pm

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Re: V

I actually enjoyed the pilot.  There are a few elements that are campy, but with my addiciton to Sci-Fi, those are easily accepted as a temporary suspension of disbelief.


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#22 2009-11-04 8:52 pm

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Re: V

Name one thing in that pilot that hasn't been done before, and done better.

I am so not looking forward to the conflict between that little smurf Tyler and his FBI mom over the issue of his indoctrination into the V Youth.

Also, it's really stupid that everybody's calling them "V's." That's just dumb.


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#23 2009-11-04 9:08 pm

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I thought it was okay, but it moved way to fast.  Of course, they're only running four episodes, and it will be off the air till after the winter Olympics (i.e., March 2010).  Didn't like the kid at all.  And Juliet is playing the same character she did on Lost. 

This isn't the next BSG or Lost.


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#24 2009-11-04 9:34 pm

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I'm not saying that it's the pinnacle of science fiction film.  It's clearly not.  I'm just saying that it wasn't entirely unenjoyable.

And Bren, having only seen the original miniseries once, during it's original airing, I'm hardly an authority on what has or has not been changed.


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#25 2009-11-04 10:11 pm

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The original could take the dimples off a golf ball, and the remake manages to be worse. I have gotten to where I dread these "reimagining" of old shows and movies, because the invariably suck even worse than the original.

Lets take, for example, the Andromeda Strain. Had they simply updated it with newer science, it would have scared the hell out of people. Instead, they try to spice it up with modern politics instead - so instead of scaring people, it just annoyed them.

Needless to say, I had low expectations for a V remake, and they still managed to disappoint me...

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