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#101 2009-11-08 12:59 am
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Re: Why I'm annoyed about something that happened 1500 years ago
No. The burden of proof is on the folks suggesting the ridiculous.
The recent medical controversy over whether vaccinations cause autism reveals a habit of human cognition—thinking anecdotally comes naturally, whereas thinking scientifically does not. -- Michael Shermer
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#102 2009-11-08 1:04 am
Re: Why I'm annoyed about something that happened 1500 years ago
"Ridiculous" is an unscientific notion. Regardless, none of my "favorite theories" are at all ridiculous.
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#103 2009-11-08 1:07 am
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Re: Why I'm annoyed about something that happened 1500 years ago
What's "unscientific"?
The recent medical controversy over whether vaccinations cause autism reveals a habit of human cognition—thinking anecdotally comes naturally, whereas thinking scientifically does not. -- Michael Shermer
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#106 2009-11-08 3:08 am
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Re: Why I'm annoyed about something that happened 1500 years ago
Bren wrote:
Are you saying it should have been hyphenated, like so: "un-scientific"?
No, I'm asking what you mean when you call something "unscientific"
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#108 2009-11-08 10:30 am
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Re: Why I'm annoyed about something that happened 1500 years ago
scientists can't use subjective terms now?
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#109 2009-11-08 10:39 am
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Re: Why I'm annoyed about something that happened 1500 years ago
ridicule is more of an art than a science.
What evidence is there of pyramid builders besides the pyramids themselves? What does that evidence tell us?
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#110 2009-11-08 11:45 am
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Re: Why I'm annoyed about something that happened 1500 years ago
Bren wrote:
Chickenhawk wrote:
What hard facts are you talking about?
I'm not referring to that particular article, as I didn't bother to read it.
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Sorry, I didn't bother to read anything else that you wrote here, Bren, because I know that it must have been filled with nonsense.
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#111 2009-11-08 3:13 pm
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Re: Why I'm annoyed about something that happened 1500 years ago
It was the evil Thetans!
I'm not dead yet.
There are 3 types of people, those who can count and those who can't.
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#112 2009-11-08 3:24 pm
Re: Why I'm annoyed about something that happened 1500 years ago
I personally have never seen anything produced by ancient cultures which doesn't have a common sense explanation. Plus, ancient cultures were into slavery and murder. Screw ancient cultures.
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#113 2009-11-08 3:33 pm
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Re: Why I'm annoyed about something that happened 1500 years ago
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I personally have never seen anything produced by ancient cultures which doesn't have a common sense explanation. Plus, ancient cultures were into slavery and murder. Screw ancient cultures.
Blame patriarchy.
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#114 2009-11-08 3:34 pm
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Re: Why I'm annoyed about something that happened 1500 years ago
mackerm wrote:
I personally have never seen anything produced by ancient cultures which doesn't have a common sense explanation.
A correct commonsense explanation?
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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#115 2009-11-08 3:37 pm
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Re: Why I'm annoyed about something that happened 1500 years ago
Tallgeese wrote:
mackerm wrote:
I personally have never seen anything produced by ancient cultures which doesn't have a common sense explanation.
A correct commonsense explanation?
Well, it may not be politically correct, but history isn't liberal.
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#116 2009-11-08 3:42 pm
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Re: Why I'm annoyed about something that happened 1500 years ago
I meant correct as in the explanation is supported by evidence and answers objections well rather than just "making sense" in isolation.
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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#117 2009-11-08 4:23 pm
Re: Why I'm annoyed about something that happened 1500 years ago
Tallgeese wrote:
mackerm wrote:
I personally have never seen anything produced by ancient cultures which doesn't have a common sense explanation.
A correct commonsense explanation?
Oh, I'll grant that some things might have common sense explanations I haven't even thought of.
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#118 2009-11-08 4:37 pm
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Re: Why I'm annoyed about something that happened 1500 years ago
Actually, there's quite a bit of dispute over how the pyramids were actually built, how the labor force was organized, even over the rather odd carbon dates for the pyramids (pyramids used gypsum mortar, which was heated over wood fires-- thus carbon 13).
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#119 2009-11-08 6:09 pm
Re: Why I'm annoyed about something that happened 1500 years ago
mackerm wrote:
Plus, ancient cultures were into slavery and murder.
And modern cultures aren't?
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#120 2009-11-08 6:17 pm
Re: Why I'm annoyed about something that happened 1500 years ago
Bren wrote:
mackerm wrote:
Plus, ancient cultures were into slavery and murder.
And modern cultures aren't?
Just saying they were no better than us, either with unexplained technology or without.
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#122 2009-11-08 7:15 pm
Re: Why I'm annoyed about something that happened 1500 years ago
jerwin wrote:
Tallgeese wrote:
mackerm wrote:
I personally have never seen anything produced by ancient cultures which doesn't have a common sense explanation.
A correct commonsense explanation?
Well, it may not be politically correct, but history isn't liberal.
What definition of liberal are you using?
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#125 2009-11-08 7:58 pm
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Re: Why I'm annoyed about something that happened 1500 years ago
Bren wrote:
And howcome the sphinx and great pyramid have water damage?
Contractor used cheap sealant.
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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