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radarman · 2009-11-05 9:18 am

http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews … 9120091103

RIYADH (Reuters) - A Saudi court of cassation upheld a ruling to behead and crucify a 22-year-old man convicted of raping five children and leaving one of them to die in the desert, newspapers reported on Tuesday.

The convict was arrested earlier this year after a seven-year old boy helped police in their investigation. The child left in the desert after the rape was three years old, Okaz newspaper said.

International rights groups have accused the kingdom, the birthplace of Islam, of applying draconian justice, beheading murderers, rapists and drug traffickers in public. So far this year about 40 people have been executed in Saudi Arabia.

In Saudi Arabia, crucifixion means tying the body of the convict to wooden beams to be displayed to the public after beheading.

Someone needs to tell them they are doing it wrong. They should use the Roman method instead. After all, the perp will already be dead by the time they crucify him - might as well save time and string him up with ropes instead.

Tallgeese · 2009-11-05 9:33 am

40 people so far? Clearly it works!

MysticCow · 2009-11-05 9:35 am

Do those 40 people include women stoned to death for adultery or just looking at someone wrong?

radarman · 2009-11-05 9:44 am

While I don't agree with giving adulterers the death penalty, the rest of the crimes listed certainly deserve a bit more than a pat on the back.

The clown in question, however; takes the cake. A child rapist and murderer. Beheading is far too quick, so I would gently suggest that a Roman style crucifixion would be far more painful. From what I've read, it could take days to die that way, and often from dehydration rather than suffocation.

Hey, if they are going to stay stuck in the middle ages, at least they should do it right.

Sternum · 2009-11-05 9:54 am

radarman wrote:
Hey, if they are going to stay stuck in the middle ages, at least they should do it right.

Considering our own tawdry affair with capital punishment, I wouldn't get too holier-than-thou on the subject.

sturner · 2009-11-05 9:55 am

But doesn't this play to the irony? Holier-than-thou and botched executions?

There is a fine line between revenge and justice. We shouldn't forget that, nor the difference between the two.

Tallgeese · 2009-11-05 10:03 am

radarman wrote:
While I don't agree with giving adulterers the death penalty, the rest of the crimes listed certainly deserve a bit more than a pat on the back.

You sure love yourself a retarded false dichotomy.

Anonymous Delivers! · 2009-11-05 10:28 am

Beheading is a fine way to eliminate undesireables while leaving behind an unaltered body suitable for harvesting organs.

Expect it to return to America, for offenses even less than that of murder.

isaly · 2009-11-05 10:39 am

Capital punishment in Rome was generally done by flogging and beheading. Crucifixion was considered a slave's death, private citizens could flog and crucify their slaves for a variety of infractions and varied depending upon the cruelty of the owner.

The one thing the Jesus Chain Saw Massacre did was illustrate that flogging was not just a spanking. As far as slaves were concerned, beating someone to within millimeters of their life meant that death by crucifixion took only a matter of hours. . . I mean, c'mon, who wants to listen to that while you're eating. . .

radarman · 2009-11-05 12:45 pm

Anonymous Delivers! wrote:
Beheading is a fine way to eliminate undesireables while leaving behind an unaltered body suitable for harvesting organs.

Expect it to return to America, for offenses even less than that of murder.

The Chinese method works even better, though. If you avoid the brain stem, the prisoner's body can remain "alive" for some time after the execution. All you have to do is limit the bleeding after the higher brain functions are destroyed. However, now that they have mobile transplant harvesting vehicles, this is less of an issue.

If you can harvest immediately, beheading would work fine.

robco · 2009-11-05 12:50 pm

Yeah, no. I don't really care much for child rapists or murderers either, but becoming more barbaric isn't the answer. Leave that to our Saudi "friends" to do that.

radarman · 2009-11-05 12:52 pm

robco wrote:
Yeah, no. I don't really care much for child rapists or murderers either, but becoming more barbaric isn't the answer. Leave that to our Saudi "friends" to do that.

Hey, we exported prisoners there for interrogation, why not execution? I'm seeing a massive export opportunity here. Not only do we save a bunch of money on executions, but we can encourage the Saudi's to develop a non-oil based economy! It's a true win-win. wink

robco · 2009-11-05 12:53 pm

Blood for oil?

radarman · 2009-11-05 1:01 pm

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Blood for oil?

That would depend on which way the money flows. If they find executing American prisoners entertaining, sure - we could trade death-row inmates for oil. Not sure what the exchange rate would be, though.

I suspect, however; we would have to pay them. It might be a small amount, since you really just need an executioner and muslim cleric for about 10-15 minutes, maybe a janitor to clean up the blood afterwards; but I suspect they wouldn't do it for free.

robco · 2009-11-05 1:03 pm

But think of all the carbon emissions shipping them across the planet for execution. And do you really want to encourage bloodlust in the country that gave us most of the terrorists who carried out the 9/11 attacks? Do you really want them to be "entertained" by brutally killing Americans?

jerwin · 2009-11-05 1:08 pm

The Taliban used to do this. The Taliban still control parts of Afghanistan. It's what I call a "win-win".

radarman · 2009-11-05 1:09 pm

robco wrote:
But think of all the carbon emissions shipping them across the planet for execution. And do you really want to encourage bloodlust in the country that gave us most of the terrorists who carried out the 9/11 attacks? Do you really want them to be "entertained" by brutally killing Americans?

That's the beauty of such a system. They already are entertained by the brutal killing of Americans - they just don't get the opportunity to see it that often. If we started a system like this, they could not only feel superior to Americans, but get the bloodlust worked out on a worthy lot. Shoot, if it became popular, they might even get tired of brutally killing Americans.

It's a bit like leaving troops in Iraq. It gives the terrorists an easier way to attack Americans without having to actually visit the US - sort of like termite baits around houses.

robco · 2009-11-05 1:52 pm

Well it's nice to know that you approve of using our military personnel as terrorist bait.

radarman · 2009-11-05 2:00 pm

robco wrote:
Well it's nice to know that you approve of using our military personnel as terrorist bait.

It's a shame quality sarcasm isn't easily detected around here.

sturner · 2009-11-05 2:58 pm

We tried issuing sarcasm meters to everyone, but they weren't foolproof. The fools broke them.

wink

Pariah · 2009-11-05 4:09 pm

I have always wondered at the reservoir of admiration many Americans have for sick, brutal dictatorships.

sturner · 2009-11-05 4:15 pm

It's part of our conservative bent.

radarman · 2009-11-05 4:39 pm

Pariah wrote:
I have always wondered at the reservoir of admiration many Americans have for sick, brutal dictatorships.

Let me be clear here, I don't have any admiration for Saudi Arabia, or pretty much any other nation that specializes in brutal thuggish dictatorships.

user · 2009-11-05 4:39 pm

Bring it on!

Some1 · 2009-11-05 4:50 pm

Anonymous Delivers! wrote:
Beheading is a fine way to eliminate undesireables while leaving behind an unaltered body suitable for harvesting organs.

Expect it to return to America, for offenses even less than that of murder.

How long does a severed head stay alive for?

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