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#1 2009-11-06 5:40 am

SomeOneOrOther
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Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink

Well, I'm not going to make a joke about a shrink who's supposed to solve the very problems that he, apparently, had himself when he decided to go on this shoot-'em-up. The guy was Muslim, but hey, maybe he had problems like everyone else, albeit, which drove him over the edge.

Not being American puts me less in tune with the real struggles of the soldiers at home and away.

Anyway, it's big enough news that I thought I'd post. Kinda sad, folks.

Texas shooting death toll rises to 13
Friday, November 6, 2009 | 5:30 AM ET

A military official says a 13th person has died after an army psychiatrist at a base in Fort Hood, Texas, turned on his colleagues in a shooting rampage on Thursday.

Officials Friday raised the toll after one of victims who was originally reported wounded died. Officials had said 30 were injured during the assault.

The suspected shooter, Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan, 39, was on a ventilator and unconscious in a hospital after being shot four times. Military officials had originally reported Hasan dead, but a senior U.S. official in Washington later said authorities had mistaken one of the victims who had been shot and killed as the shooter.

The official said authorities have not ruled out the possibility that Hasan acted on behalf of some unidentified radical group, though he would not say whether any evidence supported that theory.

Hasan was a doctor and a fellow in disaster and preventive psychiatry in the department of psychiatry at the F. Edward Hébert School of Medicine.

Hasan was about to be sent to war, and was reportedly unhappy about the prospect. Retired colonel Terry Lee, who said he had worked with Hasan, told Fox News Hasan was being sent to Afghanistan.


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#2 2009-11-06 5:40 am

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#3 2009-11-06 8:15 am

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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink

One of my buddies works at the building. We are still trying to get ahold of him.


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#4 2009-11-06 10:46 am

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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink

What shocks me most is the level of carnage. That's a smurfload of bullets.


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#5 2009-11-06 11:31 am

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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink

Wastes of skin like Michelle Malkin are already claiming that the mainstream media is 'whitewashing' the incident and so on. You know, because less than 24 hours after this happened it's easy to tell everything about this guy's past and totally responsible to print reports that he handed out Korans and yelled Allahu Akbar while shooting.

And then you get World Net Daily which is reporting that the shooter was an Obama advisor. Which, of course, is a complete lie. Not that World Net Daily is terribly concerned about truth or accuracy.


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#6 2009-11-06 11:39 am

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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink

FIFTH COLUMN PENETRATION

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#7 2009-11-06 12:02 pm

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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink

Tallgeese wrote:

Wastes of skin like Michelle Malkin are already claiming that the mainstream media is 'whitewashing' the incident and so on. You know, because less than 24 hours after this happened it's easy to tell everything about this guy's past and totally responsible to print reports that he handed out Korans and yelled Allahu Akbar while shooting.

And then you get World Net Daily which is reporting that the shooter was an Obama advisor. Which, of course, is a complete lie. Not that World Net Daily is terribly concerned about truth or accuracy.

My oh my, I had no idea who this Malkin character was until I looked her up. And my question is: How can anyone with integrity write a BOOK on a political figure as important as the U.S. president..... without his having even been in office for a year?!! Already she's labelling him a crook!!

"Culture of Corruption: Obama and His Team of Tax Cheats, Crooks, and Cronies, Malkin's fourth book, was released on July 27, 2009, and attained #1 best seller status by August 5, 2009." (from Wikipedia)

Best seller? Seriously? People actually bought this book? He's not been in office for year, yet he's "already corrupt". AND she's making money off of this?

I have a hard time thinking of someone as smurfed up in the media as that, my side of the border.

Sorry if I'm going off topic.


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#8 2009-11-06 12:06 pm

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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink

SomeOneOrOther wrote:

I have a hard time thinking of someone as smurfed up in the media as that, my side of the border.

Sorry if I'm going off topic.

Michael Coren, and maybe a few at Global.


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#9 2009-11-06 12:14 pm

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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink

Ribtorus wrote:

SomeOneOrOther wrote:

I have a hard time thinking of someone as smurfed up in the media as that, my side of the border.

Sorry if I'm going off topic.

Michael Coren, and maybe a few at Global.

Maybe, but who the hell watches his show anyway, or takes him seriously enough to make him all that prominent? He writes for the Sun (a crappy blue-collar paper), and the National Post (which I was hoping would die, if you've read about its recent bailout).

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#10 2009-11-06 12:23 pm

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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink

Note that this happened very close to a full moon.


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#11 2009-11-06 1:09 pm

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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink

Regarding Malkin - I agree her statement was uncalled for, but it isn't any different that those who blamed Katrina on Global Warming.

Some people want to politicize everything and anything.


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#12 2009-11-06 1:15 pm

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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink

resedit wrote:

Regarding Malkin - I agree her statement was uncalled for, but it isn't any different that those who blamed Katrina on Global Warming.

Some people want to politicize everything and anything.

Which statement? I only referred to her kneejerk accusing the media of covering this up, despite every report I've read (including New York Times and Washington Post) mentioning that he was a devout Muslim who didn't fit in, hated the Army, and made statements that could be interpreted as supporting Jihadists.


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#13 2009-11-06 1:21 pm

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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink

Everybody does it!

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#14 2009-11-06 1:25 pm

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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink

Looks like there was a full moon recently.
http://news.google.com/news?client=safa … CA4QsQQwAA

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#15 2009-11-06 2:39 pm

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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink

resedit wrote:

Note that this happened very close to a full moon.

Hopefully someone will calculate his horoscope or run a chart on his biorhythms to gain some insight.

Anybody got any fresh goat entrails we can examine?


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#16 2009-11-06 2:44 pm

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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink

Scoff if you want, any ER nurse or coder will tell you things go a little crazy near a full moon. (More Baker Acts, more injuries, etc.)

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#17 2009-11-06 3:44 pm

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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink

SomeOneOrOther wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

Wastes of skin like Michelle Malkin are already claiming that the mainstream media is 'whitewashing' the incident and so on. You know, because less than 24 hours after this happened it's easy to tell everything about this guy's past and totally responsible to print reports that he handed out Korans and yelled Allahu Akbar while shooting.

And then you get World Net Daily which is reporting that the shooter was an Obama advisor. Which, of course, is a complete lie. Not that World Net Daily is terribly concerned about truth or accuracy.

My oh my, I had no idea who this Malkin character was until I looked her up. And my question is: How can anyone with integrity write a BOOK on a political figure as important as the U.S. president..... without his having even been in office for a year?!! Already she's labelling him a crook!!

"Culture of Corruption: Obama and His Team of Tax Cheats, Crooks, and Cronies, Malkin's fourth book, was released on July 27, 2009, and attained #1 best seller status by August 5, 2009." (from Wikipedia)

Best seller? Seriously? People actually bought this book? He's not been in office for year, yet he's "already corrupt". AND she's making money off of this?

I have a hard time thinking of someone as smurfed up in the media as that, my side of the border.

Sorry if I'm going off topic.

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#18 2009-11-06 3:45 pm

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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink

IF EVERYONE HAD ACCESS TO A GUN THIS KIND OF THING WOULD NOT HAPPEN

Oh, wait.


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#19 2009-11-06 3:47 pm

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ScifiterX wrote:

Scoff if you want, any ER nurse or coder will tell you things go a little crazy near a full moon. (More Baker Acts, more injuries, etc.)

It's due to a combination of selective memory and an actual astronomy situation.

I forget where, but there was a web comic strip which illustrated selective memory by showing a pair of EMTs/firemen/police or some such where one comments: "Boy it's been crazy tonight--it must be a full moon." The other says "Nope, it isn't" in 3 of the panels, then says "Yup" in the final panel, whereupon the first responds: "See, I told you! Things get weird around full moons!"

The astronomy situation also answers why in some short-term (covering a few months) studies there does seem to be at least a small correlation with the full moon and police records of bar brawls and other such general mischief, but they always go away when long-term studies (covering several years) are done. Granting that the 3-day period including the day before and the day after the actual full moon counts as a "full" moon, I can predict that if any similar study were performed for the period of September through November 2009 that researchers are likely to find a full moon correlation. As to why, take a look at this monthly lunar phase calendar for fishermen. In any given 7-month period there will be 2 to 4 consecutive months when the full moon period will coincide in part with the weekend. When the short-term full moon analyses are corrected for the weekend correlation, the full moon effect disappears. In longer-term studies the data itself cancels out the weekend correlations.


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#20 2009-11-06 3:49 pm

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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink

StaticAge wrote:

IF EVERYONE HAD ACCESS TO A GUN THIS KIND OF THING WOULD NOT HAPPEN

Oh, wait.

On an Army base, typically the only people with loaded weapons on hand are the police.


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#21 2009-11-06 3:52 pm

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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink

Tallgeese wrote:

StaticAge wrote:

IF EVERYONE HAD ACCESS TO A GUN THIS KIND OF THING WOULD NOT HAPPEN

Oh, wait.

On an Army base, typically the only people with loaded weapons on hand are the police.

I'm just being stupid anyway.

THANKS A LOT HIPPIES FOR MAKING OUR MILITARY A BUNCH OF MARYS WITHOUT ANY WEAPONS

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#22 2009-11-06 3:54 pm

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Well, as long as it's self-admited...


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#23 2009-11-06 3:56 pm

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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink

StaticAge wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

StaticAge wrote:

IF EVERYONE HAD ACCESS TO A GUN THIS KIND OF THING WOULD NOT HAPPEN

Oh, wait.

On an Army base, typically the only people with loaded weapons on hand are the police.

I'm just being stupid anyway.

THANKS A LOT HIPPIES FOR MAKING OUR MILITARY A BUNCH OF MARYS WITHOUT ANY WEAPONS

I said Army.


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#24 2009-11-06 3:59 pm

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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink

Tallgeese wrote:

I said Army.

lol


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#25 2009-11-06 4:54 pm

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I wish I could say something funnier than 'tragic' or 'sad' or just plain 'weird'. And so it goes ...


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