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The iLife suite is pretty much crapware at this point in time...
It also annoys me how much promotion there is for iDisk/MobileMe within the OS itself.

But apart from that, in the scenario you describe all clones would come with nagware version of stuffit, smurfy roxio media software and probably a realmedia player that did divx/mkv out of the box.

Bren wrote:

You don't like Roxio Toast? As far as iLife goes, I wouldn't exactly call it crapware. I'm still bitter about the replacement of iMovie HD with that thing that they're now calling iMovie, but other than that...

Well I guess I can't really say, 'cause I don't use any part of iLife very often.

Regarding iDisk and MobileMe: Never used it, never will. It's surprising to me that anybody would pay for such services.

iMovie still sucks and will never be the same. Apple f-up big time on that one.

iLife, all in all, is pretty bloaty, and it's got some serious issues to balance out its pretty awesome feature set.

I wouldn't qualify it as crapware, mostly because even if there are a few mobileme adverts thrown in, it doesn't exist solely to sell you more stuff.

dv wrote:

iLife, all in all, is pretty bloaty, and it's got some serious issues to balance out its pretty awesome feature set.

I wouldn't qualify it as crapware, mostly because even if there are a few mobileme adverts thrown in, it doesn't exist solely to sell you more stuff.

Agree, and I like iPhoto, iDVD, and iTunes. The one that goes immediately in the trash is Garage Band (talk about bloated) and I simply have not the patience to learn the new iMovie when HD works fine, is more powerful, and with my brief experience with i8, HD is way easier to use. I keep holding on to i8 in the hopes it will change more to be like HD, but unfortunately so far it doesn't look like it will.

wellfleation wrote:

Agree, and I like iPhoto, iDVD, and iTunes. The one that goes immediately in the trash is Garage Band (talk about bloated) and I simply have not the patience to learn the new iMovie when HD works fine, is more powerful, and with my brief experience with i8, HD is way easier to use. I keep holding on to i8 in the hopes it will change more to be like HD, but unfortunately so far it doesn't look like it will.

I like iPhoto, iDVD and iTunes as well.  The new iMovie is good for "I have a movie, and I want it on a DVD now" scenarios.

One thing that sucks is how hard it is to get multiple movies with chapters onto one DVD using the new iMovie/iDVD (I don't know if it was always this hard).  Basically, when you go try to import each iMovie into iDVD, you'll get a message telling you that you need to go back to iMovie and "Share to Media Browser."  Unfortunately, this process results in massive compression, first to h.264, and then back to MPEG-2 for the actual burn.  It's far better to go straight to MPEG-2.  So I ended up exporting to QuickTime uncompressed for each movie --a process which took a while and consumed hundreds of gigabytes.  From there, it was pretty much drag and drop in iDVD, but it's still amazing how they've botched something so trivial.

Thank you. But...

Diablotin displays the list of  Fonts, Internet Plug-ins, iTunes Plug-ins, QuickTime Plug-ins, ScreenSavers, Sounds and StartupItems that are not part of the Standard Mac OS X System Installation.

My emphasis.

Isn't the Airport crap part of the standard install? I'm hesitant to install Diablotin, just in case it might possibly mess up my system, especially since I don't know whether the Airport software is actually using up resources when it's just sitting there and refusing to stay quitted.

Does anybody know?