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#76 2009-11-30 11:53 pm
- [MA] Flying_Meat
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Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
Well, the wise might say, when the recession is over, we'll own the market because we utilized our wisely gathered pre-recession income to build out our capacity. We invested in R&D and continued to improve - nay, innovate - with quality new products.
Our competition scrunched down and proved their inability to plan ahead, and they will have to seek capital to match us going forward.
We RULE!
Alas, "the market" (a completely short-sighted, all encompassing, yet miraculously nebulous reference) may catch up, but if the "short-term" is the focus, then clearly, the market failed many-many-many people.
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#77 2009-11-30 11:56 pm
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Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
resedit wrote:
Demand for non-essentials is the direct result of money the buyer has that is not required for necessities.
If you net $1,000 a month, chances are rather slim that you will be buying a digital camera.
If you net $3,000 a month, you probably own several.
I don't know anyone who has or needs more than two digital cameras. How does that make sense?
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#78 2009-12-01 12:22 am
Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
c_norris1 wrote:
resedit wrote:
Demand for non-essentials is the direct result of money the buyer has that is not required for necessities.
If you net $1,000 a month, chances are rather slim that you will be buying a digital camera.
If you net $3,000 a month, you probably own several.I don't know anyone who has or needs more than two digital cameras. How does that make sense?
New models come out with new features you find beneficial.
I like my Nikon Coolpix for casual shooting, my Fuji when I need a longer focal length or macro shots.
However, the fuji tends to break the jpeg standard in some instances forcing me to need to repair the image before it is usable in some apps, so I am seriously contemplating replacing it with a Nikon or Canon.
I have two others that I no longer use, and a MiniDV camera as well.
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#79 2009-12-01 12:30 am
Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
Also - due to my current drop in income, including the f**** california state tax crap - a zero interest loan to the state that should illegal - I am now baking bread instead of buying. I still buy about half my loaves, but again - it's time consuming but cuts out purchases that result in other people being employed.
You could argue that I am purchasing wheat and yeast and salt, but those are also purchased when I buy bread.
There are two kinds of people who keep rattlesnakes.
Those who have been bit, and those who will be bit. - Al Wolf.
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#80 2009-12-01 12:41 am
- [MA] Flying_Meat
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Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
So, you were previously well healed? Good for you!
Was your previous employ involving photography? You seem to have at least a better than average grasp of photo tech.
Print/web publishing options?
Media/arts tech support options?
Tutoring? Teaching?
I know for SURE many corporations lack digital image skills in their "arts" departments. (my wife has on many occasions decried the lam-itudinous skills of corporate "art" directors, and I have witnessed the sadness of 72 dpi gif image supply for high-quality cmyk print signage publishing, oh hell. Some of them want the signage in "Word." WORD! Just shoot me, eh?! JUST SHOOT ME!)
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#81 2009-12-01 12:44 am
Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
No - I am not very good at photography, I mostly take pictures to document creepy crawlies.
I never retouch photos. That is a skill I don't have.
The most I do is crop to a 4:3 aspect ratio and resize the crop to the image size I want (1600x1200 if there are enough pixels in crop, 800x600, etc.)
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#82 2009-12-01 12:44 am
- [MA] Flying_Meat
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Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
Eh, So really. Repubs? Small Gov? AHHH-HAAAHHHH-HHA-HAAHH-haahhahhahhahahahhahhahahaahhahahahaah...
I call bullsmurf.
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#83 2009-12-01 12:46 am
Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
[MA] Flying_Meat wrote:
Eh, So really. Repubs? Small Gov? AHHH-HAAAHHHH-HHA-HAAHH-haahhahhahhahahahhahhahahaahhahahahaah...
I call bullsmurf.
Republicans want small government.
That doesn't mean the elected politicians do a good job at delivering it, they don't.
There are two kinds of people who keep rattlesnakes.
Those who have been bit, and those who will be bit. - Al Wolf.
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#84 2009-12-01 12:48 am
- [MA] Flying_Meat
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Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
resedit wrote:
No - I am not very good at photography, I mostly take pictures to document creepy crawlies.
I never retouch photos. That is a skill I don't have.
Scientific documentation, eh? I bet you have a remarkable portfolio of slime molds. 
Seriously. Keep trying. Camera techs are worth their weight in slime mold cultures. 
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#85 2009-12-01 1:05 am
Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
I do have a few that I really like -
Pseudacris sierra
(a bit grainy but still)
Anaxyrus boreas
(could be sharper - I would have benefited from using a tripod there)
Rana boylii
(might have benefited from a polarizer) - neat because you can see the dorsolateral fold on that specimen, often the fold is too weak to easily see or is absent.
Rana boylii
Likely a male, but it's a protected species, so handling needed to be kept to a minimum.
Rana boylii
Not best composure - but it's a very unusually patterned specimen, demonstrating just how variable the species is.
Likely a female full of eggs, possibly attracted to breeding pool by call of male shown above.
Ensatina eschscholtzii oregonensis X E. e. platensis intergrade
Though common in this county, I don't often get to where they are. Would have been better with diffused flash, unfortunately the mixed coniferous forest was too dark despite it being early afternoon, none of my non flash photos came out well - and flash left a reflection on the smooth wet skin. Interesting species, ours are part of an intergrade zone showing characteristics of the Oregon subspecies and the much more attractive Sierra subspecies.
There are two kinds of people who keep rattlesnakes.
Those who have been bit, and those who will be bit. - Al Wolf.
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#86 2009-12-01 1:06 am
- [MA] Flying_Meat
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Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
resedit wrote:
[MA] Flying_Meat wrote:
Eh, So really. Repubs? Small Gov? AHHH-HAAAHHHH-HHA-HAAHH-haahhahhahhahahahhahhahahaahhahahahaah...
I call bullsmurf.Republicans want small government.
That doesn't mean the elected politicians do a good job at delivering it, they don't.
Maybe then you mean "many republicrats" want small government.
Obviously the "two" parties do not agree on what parts of the government to do away with in order to achieve that end, but it is becoming clear that one party will not cut what the other will, so?
Which is the right path?
Golden showers, or Pearls Before Swine?
Perhaps you think they are the same. Perhaps I think they are the same.
Perhaps neither is accurate, and a common ground should be sought outside of the inflammatory rhetoric of the "two" sided news. Outside of the black/white. Outside the "right"/"Wrong".
Crazy, possibly. 
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#87 2009-12-01 1:22 am
- [MA] Flying_Meat
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Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
resedit wrote:
I do have a few that I really like -
Pseudacris sierra
http://www.shastaherps.org/images/61md.jpg
(a bit grainy but still)
Anaxyrus boreas
http://www.shastaherps.org/images/92md.jpg
(could be sharper - I would have benefited from using a tripod there)
Rana boylii
http://www.shastaherps.org/images/62md.jpg
(might have benefited from a polarizer) - neat because you can see the dorsolateral fold on that specimen, often the fold is too weak to easily see or is absent.
Rana boylii
http://www.shastaherps.org/images/20md.jpg
Likely a male, but it's a protected species, so handling needed to be kept to a minimum.
Rana boylii
http://www.shastaherps.org/images/22md.jpg
Not best composure - but it's a very unusually patterned specimen, demonstrating just how variable the species is.
Likely a female full of eggs, possibly attracted to breeding pool by call of male shown above.
Ensatina eschscholtzii oregonensis X E. e. platensis intergrade
http://www.shastaherps.org/images/95md.jpg
Though common in this county, I don't often get to where they are. Would have been better with diffused flash, unfortunately the mixed coniferous forest was too dark despite it being early afternoon, none of my non flash photos came out well - and flash left a reflection on the smooth wet skin. Interesting species, ours are part of an intergrade zone showing characteristics of the Oregon subspecies and the much more attractive Sierra subspecies.
I like!
Sorta amphibian specific, but indeed interesting, and natural. The circumstances are quite the most important notations to capture, as where, when, what is that goo, how did it get there, and is that normal are all details important to why the subject is captured so.
You have a knack for capturing images, and should be employed, gainfully or somewhat otherwise, in that pursuit. Collegiate study? Science weekly?
Hell, it doesn't actually have to be scientific. Paparazzi? Stretch your net a bit. Cast it wildly, every so often.
Good luck. You clearly can do the job.
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#88 2009-12-01 1:32 am
- [MA] Flying_Meat
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Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
resedit wrote:
Also - due to my current drop in income, including the f**** california state tax crap - a zero interest loan to the state that should illegal - I am now baking bread instead of buying. I still buy about half my loaves, but again - it's time consuming but cuts out purchases that result in other people being employed.
You could argue that I am purchasing wheat and yeast and salt, but those are also purchased when I buy bread.
Teach a man to fish...
and the larger corporate fishing industry goes belly up?
Maybe. I doubt "gebus" had any idea what "money changers" the corporate world could produce.
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#89 2009-12-01 1:39 am
- [MA] Flying_Meat
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Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
Give unto Ahnee, what Ahnee is due.
Thank scrod we don't have that davis guy any more. Whew! We'd probably be paying that f***** state tax crap - a zero interest loan to the state (which is, by the way, what all taxes are) that should be illegal - ...
oh, wait.. The red states have gotta eat too.
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#90 2009-12-01 2:04 am
Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
[MA] Flying_Meat wrote:
resedit wrote:
I do have a few that I really like -
<snip>
Though common in this county, I don't often get to where they are. Would have been better with diffused flash, unfortunately the mixed coniferous forest was too dark despite it being early afternoon, none of my non flash photos came out well - and flash left a reflection on the smooth wet skin. Interesting species, ours are part of an intergrade zone showing characteristics of the Oregon subspecies and the much more attractive Sierra subspecies.I like!
Sorta amphibian specific, but indeed interesting, and natural. The circumstances are quite the most important notations to capture, as where, when, what is that goo, how did it get there, and is that normal are all details important to why the subject is captured so.
You have a knack for capturing images, and should be employed, gainfully or somewhat otherwise, in that pursuit. Collegiate study? Science weekly?
Hell, it doesn't actually have to be scientific. Paparazzi? Stretch your net a bit. Cast it wildly, every so often.
Good luck. You clearly can do the job.
I'm actually sort of surprised, too, Res. You clearly have a good eye for photography, and the technical aspects can be learned quickly.
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#92 2009-12-01 3:03 am
Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
[MA] Flying_Meat wrote:
Obviously the "two" parties do not agree on what parts of the government to do away with in order to achieve that end
This is true.
Conservatives, like myself, see national defense as a function of federal government but believe things like social welfare really need to be left to the individual state for the individual state to handle how the people of that state want it handled.
Obviously some states are better off than others and I am not opposed to federal help to those states, just as I am not opposed to federal help to third world countries. Such help should, whenever possible, include economic planning to get the state self sufficient.
If Michigan wants to offer a state health care plan, I do not live there, who am I to object?
If Texas wants to offer resident price to illegal immigrants attending college there, I do not live there, who am I to object?
If California wants to legalize recreational drug use, I do live here, but I'm too high to object.
The states exist to allow some diversity in government, expanded federal government defeats that.
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#93 2009-12-01 8:48 am
Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
A Professee: Behold! All the righties complaining like a lion roaring about Obama's budget on healthcare will become meek as little lambs when presented with the pricetags for an increase for military expenditures in Afghanistan (at an estimated cool million bucks per soldier).
"Live with your head in the lion's mouth. I want you to overcome 'em with yeses, undermine 'em with grins, agree 'em to death and destruction, let 'em swoller you till they vomit or bust wide open." -Ralph Ellison
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#94 2009-12-01 9:09 am
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Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
resedit wrote:
JakeTheTall wrote:
resedit wrote:
When money flows, you increase production and hire people.
Tax breaks free up money.Overcapacity is a hallmark of recessions. Why would companies increase capacity when there's a drop in demand ?
Demand for non-essentials is the direct result of money the buyer has that is not required for necessities.
If you net $1,000 a month, chances are rather slim that you will be buying a digital camera.
If you net $3,000 a month, you probably own several.
A digital camera maker usually sells 10,000 units a month. In the recession, they're selling 8,000 a month. Why would they increase production and hire people ?
Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet." They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.
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#95 2009-12-01 2:58 pm
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Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
resedit wrote:
wellfleation wrote:
The republican philosophy to me is to protect the rich (top 5% of the pop) at the expense of everyone else. This is across the board in every aspect.
You need to check your talking points against reality.
It is the poorer rural areas that tend to be republican, the richer metro areas that tend to be democrat.
The democrats want to protect big government by buying the vote of the poor city folk with promises of services that never have closed the gap in class separation, while they insult the rural city folks by calling them red-necks and hicks and joke about their education level.
It is the democrats that want to increase gas taxes, in the name of "global warming" - that make just about everything more expensive for the poor.
It was the democrats that supported use of eminent domain to take houses away from people so that cities could demolish them and build new development to increase property tax and thus revenue to feed the big government.
It is the democrats that want to tax cigarette's and soda, sending the finger to poor folks and telling them they must step in line and live the way the rich democrats want them to live, they aren't classy enough to buy those things so they are no longer affordable.
It is the democrat supported school unions that are keeping the crappiest school districts in the poor part of towns crappy by making it damn near impossible to ever fire a teacher, while the rich democrats can send their kids to private school giving them a competitive edge over the poor folk with crappy teachers and no standards those crappy teachers must teach to.
It is the democrats who are against school vouchers that give some of those poorer kids a chance to attend the private schools that may give them a leg up in life.
You've been duped, and you've been duped big time.
Which party passed the increase in minimum wage ?
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#96 2009-12-01 3:32 pm
Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
JakeTheTall wrote:
resedit wrote:
JakeTheTall wrote:
Overcapacity is a hallmark of recessions. Why would companies increase capacity when there's a drop in demand ?Demand for non-essentials is the direct result of money the buyer has that is not required for necessities.
If you net $1,000 a month, chances are rather slim that you will be buying a digital camera.
If you net $3,000 a month, you probably own several.A digital camera maker usually sells 10,000 units a month. In the recession, they're selling 8,000 a month. Why would they increase production and hire people ?
Because when not in a recession, they can get more money from them, especially if they hire engineers to make them have cool features the model released 6 months ago doesn't have.
There are two kinds of people who keep rattlesnakes.
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#97 2009-12-01 3:34 pm
Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
JakeTheTall wrote:
Which party passed the increase in minimum wage ?
What point are you trying to make?
Can you live on minimum wage where you live?
I sure as hell couldn't where I live.
There are two kinds of people who keep rattlesnakes.
Those who have been bit, and those who will be bit. - Al Wolf.
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#98 2009-12-01 4:31 pm
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Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
JakeTheTall wrote:
Which party passed the increase in minimum wage ?
Except that minimum wages tend to raise unemployment, but you know...
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#99 2009-12-01 4:38 pm
Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
MysticCow wrote:
JakeTheTall wrote:
Which party passed the increase in minimum wage ?
Except that minimum wages tend to raise unemployment, but you know...
Naw - it just results in increased under the table employment of illegal immigrants.
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#100 2009-12-01 5:43 pm
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Re: Anyone think the new Republican push for small gov is real?
resedit wrote:
JakeTheTall wrote:
resedit wrote:
Demand for non-essentials is the direct result of money the buyer has that is not required for necessities.
If you net $1,000 a month, chances are rather slim that you will be buying a digital camera.
If you net $3,000 a month, you probably own several.A digital camera maker usually sells 10,000 units a month. In the recession, they're selling 8,000 a month. Why would they increase production and hire people ?
Because when not in a recession, they can get more money from them, especially if they hire engineers to make them have cool features the model released 6 months ago doesn't have.
I'll play along.
I am debunking your notion that tax cuts in a recession are a good idea because it spurs businesses to expand.
Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet." They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.
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