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To be a racist, you must believe that members of another race are less human. I believe that all ethnicities are equal, even the blacks.

That's because most blacks still wish that they were slaves

I would pay to see / hear you say that in front of a black fellow, and watch them kick the smurf you talk out of you.
You are an smurf and should be banned for spouting smurf like that.

And this is what I am talking about. When it comes to talking about race, no one is alowed an opposite opinion from you Libs, No matter what it is, without the threat of being banned.  Just because one has and express's ideas does not always mean they are RACIST.

And considering it is the Liberals that have been keeping blacks down all of these years with all of their programs designed for only blacks, I would say they have very little room to talk.

I'm no liberal,
i just know plenty of black fellows who would love to beat the crap out of best buy for talking such smurf.
What best buy said was a highly insultive remark against black people, and such smurf shouldn't be allowed to be posted in a public forum.

I believe that all ethnicities are equal, even the blacks.

How smurfing generous of you.

I recently did an accounting of all my acquaintances, and I realized that many of these people happened to be black( a fact I hadn't noticed before. Race isn't something I pay attention to). If I was going to get my ass kicked, one of these folks would have already done it, being that we talk about the same things amongst each other as are discussed in this forum.

You do know that vanilla ice isn't black don't you?
Check your friends again and get back to us.

I'm willing to bet that you don't know any black fellows, and if you do, they probably look like Erkle.

I have plenty of black mates,
but wouldn't talk to them about the smurf comment you come out with about blacks still wanting to be slaves, if i did, they would probably think i was chatting on a KKK forum instead of a mac forum.

Also who the smurf is Erkle,
hmmm let me have a guess, i bet that is another insult against blacks.

While it is true that most civil rights legislation of the late 50's and 1960's could not have been passed without the help of the Republican Party, it's also true that most of those members of the GOP who did the right thing in taking up that challenge were LIBERAL Republicans, or as they were called then, Rockefeller Republicans. They of course are no longer in power-- not even in their own party.

So for those of you who wonder why black Americans have such a mistrust of the GOP in its current incarnation, here's a list of historical FACTS for you to consider:  Take a look at them, and then I dare anyone to explain how as a black Ameriacn I'm better off with the GOP.

1964: The far right gains control of the Republican Party. Goldwater and Reagan publicly criticize Congress for passing civil rights legislation.

1968: To diminish the growing influence and popularity of George wallace's third party challenge in the presidential election, Richard Nixon convinces GOP leaders to adopt many of Wallace's regressive positions, particularly on civil rights, into the party plank. 

1969: Despite his 1968 campaign theme to "Bring Us Together," Nixon's cabinet consists only of white men.

1970: Nixon issues an executive order establishing Affirmative Action. Instead of the voluntary initiative called for by Kennedy and the federal-based authority mandated by Johnson, he gives control to local bureaucrats, who set up programs designed to pervert the intent of the program and pit working-class ethnic groups against each other in fierce competition for limited public sector jobs.

1972: Nixon names Sammy Davis Jr. his Advisor on Minority Affairs.

1976: Agriculture Secretary Earl Butz is forced to resign after failing to explain that comments he made (". . .loose shoes . . ") were not racially insensitive.

1980: Candidate Reagan pledges to eliminate the Depts. of Education and Health and Human Services. The GOP leadership convinces him to abandon the pledge after pressure from corporate interests such as hospital corporations, Medicare middlemen, school bus builders, and charter school "consultants."

1981: The Reagan Administration quietly rescinds the U.S. government's commitment to the Sullivan Principles, which were designed to bring about a peaceful system of power-sharing in South Africa. 

1982: Interior Secretary James Watt is forced to resign after failing to explain that comments he made (". . . a black, a Jew, and a cripple . . .") were not racially insensitive.   

1983: Dick Cheney, Jesse Helms and other GOP leaders block a Congressional resolution calling for the immediate release of Nelson Mandela from prison.

1986: President Reagan resists signing into law bill establishing the 3rd Monday in January as MLK Day, a federal holiday; he caves in after Congressional pressure. Conservative congressmen, including Trent Lott, vote against passage of the law.

1988: Candidate George Bush, under direct advice from RNC chair Lee Atwater, begins running the infamous Willie Horton ad campaign.

1992: Pat Buchanan's legitimate presidential challenge to incumbent Bush forces the GOP even further to the right. Buchanan's blistering xenophobic speech at the GOP National Convention is considered one of the factors that costs Bush the election.

1993: David Duke, former Klan Grand Dragon, wins the GOP nomination to fill retiring LA Senator J. Bennett Johnston's seat. Two years later he forces a runoff in the election for LA governor. 

1994: Incumbant Jesse Helms, near the end of a close Senate race against Harvey Gantt, plays the race card in a series of last minute ads.

1995: Conservative GOP radio commentator Howie Carr is forced to "correct himself" on air after making racially insensitive remarks following the Oklahoma City bombing (he calls terrorists, who had not yet been identified, "towel heads.")   

1998: LA Rep. Bob Livingston, House Speaker-in-Waiting and one of the major GOP critics in the Lewinsky affair, is forced to resign after news of his own marital infidelity is leaked. Soon after, MI Rep. Henry Hyde, another vociferous critic, is revealed to be the deadbeat dad of an illegitimate daughter.

2000: Candidate George Bush, stumbling in the primaries, makes a campaign stop at a college that prohibits interracial dating.

2000: The U.S. Supreme Court ends the Gore challenge, not because it has no basis in fact, but because in their view there is not enough time to review it and seat a president in January 2001. 

2002: Sen. Majority Leader Trent Lott is forced to resign after failing to explain adequately why comments he made at Strom Thurmond's birthday party (". . . we're proud that we voted for him in 1948 . . .") were not racially insensitive.

These are only the incidents of national significance. Add on state and local issues and it gets a helluva lot longer. And that's only on civil rights. I also have dozens of objections to the GOP record on the environment, ethics, and corporate pork over the past 40 years.

But, for starters, I've once again delineated some of the SPECIFIC reasons why I DON'T vote Republican.   

So folks: where are YOUR SPECIFIC reasons why I should?

2000: The U.S. Supreme Court ends the Gore challenge, not because it has no basis in fact, but because in their view there is not enough time to review it and seat a president in January 2001. 

Not only is this untrue, it is also irrelevant to your argument. Besides, the federal government should not have jurisdiction in election procedures. That power is reserved for the states. Allowing the supreme court to monkey with a state's election results would be a dangerous precident to set.
~Tim

Six of the items on your list about racism have nothing to do with racism. They are just bashes against republicans. It looks like you just cut and pasted and weren't paying that much attention to what was on the list

1969: Despite his 1968 campaign theme to "Bring Us Together," Nixon's cabinet consists only of white men.

I'm sorry, could you remind me how many black people were on Clinton's cabinet? How about Kennedy's cabinet? How about Carters cabinet for that matter.

How many black demacrates are in any political power possitions. You can't mention Jessie Jackson or Al Sharpton because right now they are just activists and not in any political authority possitions. Can you name any others?

Which six? Why don't you be more specific, and I'll gladly give you more background information on them.

Your questions illustrate how little you know about American politics. How many WHITE Democrats are in political power positions right now? Senate and House chairmanships are awarded by the MAJORITY party-- the GOP.

But I'll take your challenge anyway and give it back to you: how many BLACK REPUBLICANS are in any political power positions? I'm talking about Congress, but I'll give you a little leeway. After Rice and Powell, how many can YOU name? (BTW: Thomas doesn't count: he's not a politician and he's not elected.)

As far as your other lame challenge, here's your answer:   

Kennedy
Weaver -- Undersecretary of Sec., Health, Education & Welfare; promoted to Secretary by Lyndon Johnson

Carter
Harris -- Dept. of Housing and Urban Development (later appointed to HHS) 
Hodges-- Undersecretary, Dept. of Commerce
Young -- U.S. Ambassador, United Nations
Norton- Equal Employment Commission
McCree-- Solicitor General
Richmond-- Public Health Service
McKenna-- Deputy Counsel

Clinton
Espy - Dept. of Agriculture
Elders - Surgeon General (I know what happened; the point is, you asked for names)
Moore - Dept. of Labor
Brown- Chairman, Democratic Party
Guinier - Nominated to Justice Dept. (again, I know what happened)
Blacks also led several federal agencies, including the Office of Civil Rights, Office of Veterans affairs, and others.

And, I'm sure with some homework-- which I don't have time to do right now-- I can find many more.

Before you decide to engage in a pissing match with me I'd advise you to do some homework on the comments I have posted at this forum to know who you're messin' with. I'm always capable of backing up anything I say and I prepare in advance to respond to any challenges to my comments.

So again: WHICH SIX?

=> Pressurize

An Open Post To Pressurize:

I am sick and tired of you liberals trying to ban or have removed any opinion that is different than yours!  I quote from your post above:

"...such poop shouldn't be allowed to be posted in a public forum..."

This is a free country idiot.... we can say anything we want, within the limits of decency, and post anything we want, again within the limits of decency. Every day we have to listen to all you liberals spouting your opinion, and the host of your legion leaders (Liberal Congressmen and Senators) expressing their opnions. Much as I hate to listen to them, I wouldn't have it any other way. That is freedom. So the next time you advocate or petition to remove someone's post, perhaps it is you, idiot, that should be removed, for questioning the freedom of open discourse and discussion.  A discussion invariably involves different opinions.... it is about time the liberal left accept this fact and acknowledge that their belief is not the only belief!

Who is more Racist?

Someone who refuses to hire someone based on his race?

Or

The people who choose a person to go to their school based souly on that person being black, over say someone who is white that has a much higher GPA and SAT?

And this happens with employment as well. We see it all of the time. In Unemployment offices all over the country they have a point system based on Race.

That's not only a ridiculous statement: that's a damn lie.

NAME A SINGLE STATE OR FEDERAL DEPARTMENT LABOR OFFICE IN AMERICA WHERE ANY OF THE SERVICES OR BENEFITS ARE GIVEN OUT ACCORDING TO A POINT SYSTEM BASED ON RACE.

I'm sorry, could you remind me how many black people were on Clinton's cabinet? How about Kennedy's cabinet? How about Carters cabinet for that matter.

How many black demacrates are in any political power possitions. You can't mention Jessie Jackson or Al Sharpton because right now they are just activists and not in any political authority possitions. Can you name any others?

Are you serious?

From a government report I found online:

There have been 80 black democrats and 27 black republicans (in Congress).  All of the black democrats have been elected in the 20th century.  There have been 5 black republicans elected to Congress in this century, four in the House and one in the Senate.

I dare anyone to explain how as a black Ameriacn I'm better off with the GOP.

That's easy. If it weren't for the GOP, you wouldn't be getting paid for tending your slop bucket, you'd be doing it for free !

Regarding the al gore thing, the nation has moved on from the 2000 election. Besides, they did blacks a favor by canning gore. No doubt ol' al has a big fat mammy or two held up in the family mansion.

Recall the 2002 election. The dnc and establishment media proclaimed that that election was to be a "referendum on President Bush and the 2000 election". Well, not only was it a Jeb landslide, the Republicans took the senate as well as a dozen or so house seats.

Looking forward to 2004, there are almost twice as many democrats seats up in the senate as Republican. Experts predict the GOP to hold a super-majority in the senate, and also pick up at least twenty or so house seats, again. Also, it's a given that Bush will win.

I say, Dr.zik, that you need to abandon your master, the dnc, switch sides, and come on in for the big win. Show us all that you've got what it takes to not be a slave.