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#26 2003-04-14 3:01 pm

TheConfuzed1
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Re: cut or uncut?

I fail to see the significance in whether the father is cut or uncut.  confused

It just seems as if it would be easier on the kid if his junk was the same as his daddy's.  shrug

I don't recall looking at my dad's willy at any time in my life.

Allow me to put this into context...  If the kid is uncut, he is going to need to know how to clean it.  This is where it would be up to Daddy to show him how.

Just because a man may be cut does not mean he isn't capable of teaching his son hygiene. It's also been my experience that the moms do most of the bathing, but byyour definition, only a father, an uncut father can teach his son to bathe.

I suppose so.  It was a thought.  I am cut and so is my son, so I have no frame of reference in the matter.


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#27 2003-04-14 3:03 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

do you show your son your willy, then, so he can identify with you?


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#28 2003-04-14 3:10 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

do you show your son your willy, then, so he can identify with you?

My son is nine months old.


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#29 2003-04-14 3:16 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

I am uncut. I think that in this day in age, it doesn't matter either way.


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#30 2003-04-14 3:29 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

Genital mutilation is a barbaric practice that, for both men and women, is designed to reduce sexual appetite.

All of the modern excuses for it such as hygiene obscure the truth. And, each of those excuses is easily rebutted. The foreskin secretes a natural anti-bacterial liquid that helps keep the glans clean and moist. The "circumcised" glans becomes tough and desensitized because of friction against clothing. The glans, the most sensitive part of the penis, was designed to be protected by the foreskin. The foreskin is not "useless extra skin."

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#31 2003-04-14 3:30 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

Genital mutilation is a barbaric practice that, for both men and women, is designed to reduce sexual appetite.

All of the modern excuses for it such as hygiene obscure the truth. And, each of those excuses is easily rebutted. The foreskin secretes a natural anti-bacterial liquid that helps keep the glans clean and moist. The "circumcised" glans becomes tough and desensitized because of friction against clothing. The glans, the most sensitive part of the penis, was designed to be protected by the foreskin. The foreskin is not "useless extra skin."

The medical industry promotes male genital mutilation because it's a source of revenue.

Don't be shy.  Tell us how you really feel.  wink


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#32 2003-04-14 3:36 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

I think XYZ is prejudiced against all of us circumcised people, and he's trying to bring in "facts" to show that we're abnormal and unnatural and don't function as well.


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#33 2003-04-14 3:38 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

It seems like this thread should have a poll.  I think it would be easier to see overall opinion.  Am I right?

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#34 2003-04-14 3:41 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

I think XYZ is prejudiced against all of us circumcised people, and he's trying to bring in "facts" to show that we're abnormal and unnatural and don't function as well.

Touche.  lol


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#35 2003-04-14 4:19 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

I'm constantly worried by the "It's more hygienic" argument. Is it really that difficult to wash yourself? I've also been led to believe that it reduces sensitivity, eek!


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#36 2003-04-14 4:35 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

I'm with XYZ on this issue.  big_smile
I think he should clarify his point of view instead of hiding behind innuendo and hyperbole though


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#37 2003-04-14 4:45 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

I would say it was a pretty accurate and restrained view on circumcision myself... oh well.


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#38 2003-04-14 4:50 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

It isn't as heinous a crime as FGM. That is totally uncalled for.


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#39 2003-04-14 6:01 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

I would say it was a pretty accurate and restrained view on circumcision myself... oh well.

I guess you don't know sarcasm when you see it eh?  I'll forgive you.  You're new.


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#40 2003-04-14 6:01 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

It isn't as heinous a crime as FGM. That is totally uncalled for.

I agree.


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#41 2003-04-14 6:55 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

I would say it was a pretty accurate and restrained view on circumcision myself... oh well.

I guess you don't know sarcasm when you see it eh?  I'll forgive you.  You're new.

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#42 2003-04-14 7:34 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

Interesting this subject should come up. My youngest son was born in February, and my wife and I decided to hold off on having him circumcised, because we really weren't sure that we wanted to do that to him.

Now, a couple of months later, my wife really wants to have him circumcised, while I don't think it's necessary. I'm circumcised myself, and so is my 11-year-old son (although his was a medical necessity...otherwise we would have left him uncircumcised).

It was weird. When I was with my newborn son in the nursery, I just regarded him from head to toe, studying every part of his body. I looked at his penis, and there it was...it was like this little wrinkled perfect creation, and it seemed like it would be unnatural to alter it in any way...it was almost as if God himself was saying to me: "Leave it alone...it's fine!"

Although, for all you prospective parents out there: research the subject of circumsicion very thoroughly and decide before you get to the hospital...if you have the boy circumcised in the hospital after birth, chances are your insurance will cover it. If you wait, your insurance may not cover it (as we are discovering). If it's not covered, it's in the neighborhood of $1200 - $1800 to have done. eek


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#43 2003-04-14 7:34 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

ahhh man.. I thought you wanted to give me some uncut smack!

sad

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#44 2003-04-14 7:49 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

well, circumcission originated way back when people can't keep their hygiene as well as we do today, so to prevent infection or anythig bad happening from the penis not being properly cleaned/maintained, they simply cut the 'excess' skin that might trap bacteria and germs..

but i don't see the point of doing it today.
i think it comes down to the parent's tradition or culture now
but it's not better that a man is circumcised or not.
but some studies have indicated that the glans become less sensitive because it got used to the touch and friction of clothing... wink

but if you want to circumcise your kids, do it when they're still a baby, please, don't let them go throught it when they're more 'aware'..


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#45 2003-04-14 7:55 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

Interesting this subject should come up. My youngest son was born in February, and my wife and I decided to hold off on having him circumcised, because we really weren't sure that we wanted to do that to him.

Now, a couple of months later, my wife really wants to have him circumcised, while I don't think it's necessary. I'm circumcised myself, and so is my 11-year-old son (although his was a medical necessity...otherwise we would have left him uncircumcised).

It was weird. When I was with my newborn son in the nursery, I just regarded him from head to toe, studying every part of his body. I looked at his penis, and there it was...it was like this little wrinkled perfect creation, and it seemed like it would be unnatural to alter it in any way...it was almost as if God himself was saying to me: "Leave it alone...it's fine!"

Although, for all you prospective parents out there: research the subject of circumsicion very thoroughly and decide before you get to the hospital...if you have the boy circumcised in the hospital after birth, chances are your insurance will cover it. If you wait, your insurance may not cover it (as we are discovering). If it's not covered, it's in the neighborhood of $1200 - $1800 to have done. eek

It only cost me $150.  Maybe my insurance paid the rest...  I'm not sure.


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#46 2003-04-14 8:07 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

Uncut. I'm glad. I can see no reason why it should be done.

I mean, armpits get gross when you don't clean them... but you don't see people, um, slicing off their arms at the shoulder.

So, just shower and stuff and all is well.


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#47 2003-04-14 8:56 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

I'm in my "original packaging" as well. If I ever have a boy, he will be natural as well. I shower and clean every day, so no worries there. In fact, when my mom was teaching me to bathe myself, she would tell me to make sure and clean under the skin or my penis "would turn green, rot and fall off."  eek

That tends to develop good hygenie practices.  wink

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#48 2003-04-14 8:59 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

...That tends to develop good hygenie practices.

Or cause severe mental disorder.


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#49 2003-04-14 9:03 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

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#50 2003-04-14 9:13 pm

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Re: cut or uncut?

Genital mutilation is a barbaric practice that, for both men and women, is designed to reduce sexual appetite.

All of the modern excuses for it such as hygiene obscure the truth. And, each of those excuses is easily rebutted. The foreskin secretes a natural anti-bacterial liquid that helps keep the glans clean and moist. The "circumcised" glans becomes tough and desensitized because of friction against clothing. The glans, the most sensitive part of the penis, was designed to be protected by the foreskin. The foreskin is not "useless extra skin."

The medical industry promotes male genital mutilation because it's a source of revenue.

You spouted that same smurf last time this subject came up. I don't believe that my religion's practice of circumcision is to reduce sexual appetite, and I wonder where you got that information. Furthurmore, I don't feel as though some travesty has been committed against me by my parents having me circumsized, nor do I feel as though my body has been mutilated. I don't think it makes much of a difference.

But my real point is that you don't have to shove that smurf down our throats. I can believe what I want. And you can believe what you want. Are you cut?


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