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excellent posts, keilwerth.

i'm also against "underage" (i.e. less than 18) smoking; not only would it slow down development in the person in question, chances are that he/she is not mature enough to control him/herself and use responsibly. just my $.02 though.

I refer you all to this thread, it was quite interesting before it got locked.

http://www.themacmind.com/index.php?nam … ight=drugs

sounds like entmoof (from that thread) has MANY more issues to deal with than anyone i know of who's smoked some weed.

he wants us all to believe that the first bit of thc entering your body will cause you to grow hair on your palms, curve your spine, and make the country lose the war on terrorism. 100% unadulterated ignorance at its best!

Heh. You see, drugs are a great experience for most people that try them. But if you are severly depressed, or you have mental issues, they are definitely something to stay away from. The Entmoof character obviosuly suffered from severe depression. The experiences he had on Marijuana made it worse. He should really seek professional help because he doesnt fully understand what he was doing. Im sorry that thread got locked, but im afraid I have to agree with everyone that was fighting Entmoof. His posts, for the most part, provided very innacurate information and seemingly false claims. I think there is more to his town than just Marijuana 'abuse'.

Echoboom, for starters, you don't know what you're talking about, so keep it down. I guarantee you I've read more studies (from independent medical journals, not the ONDCP) on the effects of drugs than you have. Why? Because I use them, and want to know what I'm putting into my body. I study effects of anything I'm considering trying on Erowid, which has plenty of links to medical and scientific research organizations.

I agree with you completely. First off, (not to bag on Echo even more ) Echoboom plays the role of the average, "brainwashed" citizen that has no true experience with any drugs and knows only what he has heard on tv or read (basicaly biased) in newspapers or on the net. He thinks he knows what hes talking about, but he really doesnt. That is ok though, because I was once exactly like that. Education is the key, and unfortunatly the real truth is not often shown on TV or in the media.

I have done extensive research on every drug I have used, even though all I have ever done is Marijuana, Alcohol, Vicodin, and ciggarettes. I think Erowid is the best site for this research, the best information ive found has been at that website.

Those both are actually not true. These stories start in local newspapers, made up by small-town conservative editors, as story to "keep the kids safe". The funniest part is how they get recycled. The guy pulling out his eye on LSD in particular has resurfaced at least once every decade since the sixties.

How do I know? I cruise legalization sites that trace obviously BS stories like these back to the original fabricators, who "heard of something similar" from a "friend in law enforcement".

Lol. Love those stories. My town's big story is a kid used to sell LSD and he had a couple dozen LSD papers in his jacket. Well, it started to rain and he was trying to get home...but all the papers melted and soaked into his skin. The story goes that now he thinks he is a glass of orange juice and he cant lay down or lean too far or he will spill and die. I believed it at first, but after my sister told me she was told that story while she was in HS (15 years ago) i realized it was probably false. I myself dont know much about any drugs other than marijuana and alcohol. those are the only two I have used(vicodin was not very enjoyable, and not something i will ever use again), and im currently doing research on mushrooms, but it will be some time before i decide whether or not to use them.

I use marijuana, alcohol, cigarettes, and various legal plants readily available online. That's in order of use. I've also smoked chewy, which is marijuana laced with cocaine. I didn't know it was at the time, and wouldn't have tried it if I did, but it was great. I doubt I'll ever do it again, though.

Same order as myself. Though I rarely smoke cigs. I used to drink a lot, but after discovering marijuana and how its not nearly as bad as its made out to be, not to mention a lot safer than alcohol, i began smoking weed a lot more than I ever drank. Not regularly, but a few times a week. Mostly to help me relax.

I'd like to talk about pot, though. A lot of people who've never tried it have a completely skewed view of its effects. It's not a depressant like alcohol. It has no true analog, but its effect on the brain is most closely related to the psychedelics, however, it is not a true psychedelic.

Im not sure if you read that thread that was on the MacMind forums, but the individual Entmoof seemed to be very mentaly unstable. I believe marijuana is competly harmless, and I myself have never experienced anything he claims, nor known anyone with the same issues. In fact I almost wonder if he was possibly a plant, because I know people (government anyone?) go to websites and try and tell how bad they hate drugs and horrible experiences in order to try and dissuade people even more. I dont know if Entmoof really was one, but his arguments were hopeless against the many very educated people of the board. Anyway, I think that it is possible for people to have bad experiences on weed, but again they have to be very, very depressed and or mentaly unstable in order to get smurfed up like he claims.

In fact, I myself was very depressed for a while, to the point I almost wanted to kill myself. Well, after using weed for the first few times (Albiet, on my own 'path to destruction') it helped me cope and view things more optimisticaly. its of course not an escape, but the things I saw and thought while high made me realize my life was worth living, I just needed to change the way I saw everything. Of course I still have my downer days, but not nearly to the extent of a year and a half ago.

Marijuana increases activity in the right side of the brain (increasing activity is not an effect of a depressant, which is what I was told it was in the D. A. R. E. program at school). This is what is often referred to as the "artistic" side of the brain, versus the "logical" left side, but it's more than that. There is also an effect on the pineal gland, which is where tryptamines (psychedelics) are active, but to a much greater extent than marijuana. The pineal gland is "the seat of the soul" in many cultures, and appears to be central to concious experience. Another bonus fun fact: the brain secretes tryptamines to the pineal gland while the fetus is in the womb. It's hypothesized that this simulates experience for the infant. I have pre-natal memories that would back that up. It also does so when you die, or come close to dying, which is hypothesized to be responsible for the "white light" experience near-death experiencees universally account of.

Wow, pre-natal memories? I can barely remember being 6

What this ends up doing is enhancing sensual experiences. Colors are more vivid (I gain depth perception, which I lack normally), sounds have greater depth (perception of overtones is often enhanced), touch is enhanced (try having sex or masturbating high

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