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#1 2002-12-26 11:32 pm
- Kakarotto
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P2P, whats the big deal?
They're all evil and filled with garbage, so the only difference would really be with the client.
Limewire runs a java-based app, so it's a LOT slower than other apps in startup and switching between windows.
Aquisition is pretty quick, I think it's cocoa-based, but it doesn't seem to let on if a connection died. At least for me.
There's going to be Direct Connect for the mac pretty soon. That's a good client, despite the chat functions within it. It seems to work well on college campuses, where students can share everything there without having to access outside of their intranet.
In reality, using P2P is a horrible method for any form of file acquisition. There are plenty of good sources out there to find anything, legitimate or otherwise, and it only takes a modicum of effort.
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#3 2002-12-27 11:26 am
Re: P2P, whats the big deal?
they all suck. steal the old fashioned way. take it from a store
Then you prevent the store from making money on a physical product that someone else could buy. Not the same with digital stuff.
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#4 2002-12-27 11:32 am
- SwisSlesS
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Re: P2P, whats the big deal?
they all suck. steal the old fashioned way. take it from a store
Now that's the best idea I've heard in a long time 
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#5 2003-01-02 5:49 pm
- dualG4boiler
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Re: P2P, whats the big deal?
Don't all those things use the same network, as in Gnuetella? How can one be better than the other?
Actually, no, they don't all use Gnutella. In fact, Gnutella is only the protocol for discovering hosts. As for the actual file sharing, that is accomplished because all the Gnutella-based clients have lightweight web servers built into them.
Now that Direct Connect is officially available for the Mac, I've switched completely and will never go back to Gnutella. There are even some Mac-specific hubs that make it 1000x more valuable than Gnutella.
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#6 2003-01-02 7:52 pm
Re: P2P, whats the big deal?
Actually, there are plenty of protocols out there: FastTrack, Gnutella, OpenNap, whatever DirectConnect uses, and a few others.
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#7 2003-01-02 9:37 pm
- dvpierce
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Re: P2P, whats the big deal?
I get my piracy fix by finding unlocked Appleshare servers that stupid admins forgot have used TCP/IP since OS 9. afp://file.server.name, sign in as a guest (often allowed by university servers)
Most school web sites have sections where they instruct the less fortunate how to access school servers. You can get site-lisenced software that way.
Screw KaZaa
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#8 2003-01-03 2:49 am
Re: P2P, whats the big deal?
There are plenty of good sources out there to find anything, legitimate or otherwise, and it only takes a modicum of effort.
Hotline, Carracho and KDX come to mind.
I use all three of those frequently at college. Our ports have been "strangled" by our IT department, preventing us from downloading "things" through P2P software. I can't even connect to the router using LimeWire.
With Hotline, Carracho and KDX you become part of a community. Prepare to see a lot of "upload to download" servers. Every once in awhile there'll be someone who allows leeching, but those are few and far between.
My PC friends say that the Client2Server approach is "too hard" or "too much work" and continue to attempt to download their stuff on the latest version of KaZaa at a maximum speed of 10k/sec.
I download at around 60k-120k sec using Hotline, Carracho or KDX.
Guess who the little PC folks come to when they want movies? As long as they keep paying for "access rights" to my files, I won't grate them too much for their stupidity. Money is money. Even if it comes from lazy idiots.
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#9 2003-01-03 3:39 am
- delta wolph
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Re: P2P, whats the big deal?
where do u go for kdx servers?
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#10 2003-01-03 5:10 am
- benightedbastard
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Re: P2P, whats the big deal?
We went from "what's the big deal with p2p" to "how to pirate". How inevitable.
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