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#1 2002-12-28 1:48 pm

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Mac-PC network

Could someone tell me how I could connect my iBook, running OS 9, to a PC, running Windows XP, in some sort of network arrangement? I want to be able to transfer files between them and play network games. Oh, I should mention that I want to do this through the router to which I have them hooked up; throwing a hub into the mix is out of the question, unless of course it's absolutely necessary.

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#2 2002-12-28 2:05 pm

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Re: Mac-PC network

Bloody hell! I just had to go thru this horror but computer to computer. Everyone seems to ask this question every now an then so search the forums. I'm upgrading to OS X next January... I've heard it's a lot easier to network PCs and Macs with Jag.

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#3 2002-12-28 2:34 pm

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Re: Mac-PC network

Don't want to be rude but RTFM. I bought a router yesterday and red the manual and you know what ?

It worked !!!!

So do your homework and dig in. You'll be set-up in no time


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#4 2002-12-29 5:32 am

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Re: Mac-PC network

Don't want to be rude but RTFM. I bought a router yesterday and red the manual and you know what ?

It worked !!!!

So do your homework and dig in. You'll be set-up in no time

As long as we're being rude and yelling I'll tell you to smurfing use "read" instead of "red" !!!!  roll


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#5 2002-12-29 5:49 am

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Re: Mac-PC network

Just use TCP/IP networking for everything, and since you're in OS 9, find and FTP server for one of the machines.

That's what I did.

MacOS X.1 has a built-in FTP server, and Jaguar interfaces with Windows networks just fine. It's all good on that front, too.


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#6 2002-12-30 1:41 am

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Re: Mac-PC network

As long as we're being rude and yelling I'll tell you to smurfing use "read" instead of "red" !!!!

read, red, red


You should take grammar courses Nzilla, I'm petty confident that red a the past tense of read. I was not smurfing YELLING. (See i can swear too !!)


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#7 2002-12-30 2:27 am

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Re: Mac-PC network

read, red, red


You should take grammar courses Nzilla, I'm petty confident that red a the past tense of read. I was not smurfing YELLING. (See i can swear too !!)

Ummm... no.

I like to read.

I read that book yesterday.

Same spelling.

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#8 2002-12-30 2:35 am

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Re: Mac-PC network

Your's was sarcasm right? Because mine was too.  roll

And yeah, read is the past tense form of read.  tongue


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#9 2002-12-30 9:57 am

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Re: Mac-PC network

Sorry i mixed the run and read verb. My primary language is french, english is my second language. Because of that, I've sometimes have trouble discerning between sarcasm and aggresiveness.  wink

So sorry for last post tone, Nzilla

blush


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#10 2002-12-30 5:56 pm

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Re: Mac-PC network

Sorry i mixed the run and read verb. My primary language is french, english is my second language. Because of that, I've sometimes have trouble discerning between sarcasm and aggresiveness.  wink

So sorry for last post tone, Nzilla

blush

You are forgiven. (But how can you tell if that was sarcasm or not!?)  wink


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#11 2002-12-30 6:45 pm

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Re: Mac-PC network

Dang guys, how about answering his question?  I'm going to throw this one over to the networking forum.  As you have mentioned, this problem has indeed been asked at least two dozen times in the last year.  A search of the networking forum would be most helpful.

If the author wishes more exacting comments, he should provide gory detail on his set-up.  Router name, model, firmware revision, computer details, etc. would be helpful.


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#12 2002-12-30 7:47 pm

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Re: Mac-PC network

Your's was sarcasm right?

If it's sarcastic is it ok to make more grammatical errors while correcting someone else?  "Your's" isn't a word.

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#13 2003-01-04 4:37 pm

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Re: Mac-PC network

It's all in the details, isn't it? OK, here they are: The Mac is a 466MHz iBook Special Edition in the old clamshell case. It's running OS 9.1. The PC is a no-name box with a P4 processor running Windows XP Professional. The router is a D-Link DI-704P broadband ethernet router with "a built-in four-port switch plus a print server". I don't know the firmware revision, but I looked through the plentiful faqs provided as well as the setup manual and there was no mention of PC-Mac networking.

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#14 2003-01-04 11:01 pm

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Re: Mac-PC network

Assuming you're sharing a broadband internet connection, the two computers should already be networked after a fashion - TCP/IP is nice this way. Using TCP/IP (or IPX, depending on the game) should work for playing network games right out of the box. For StarCraft or WarCraft II, just route it all through Battle.net.

As for file sharing, try setting up a web server - it's easy. Assuming yuour router is configured properly (It should ignore HTTP requests originating from outside the network, preventing the world from seeing your servers.) you'll be safe. Just download EasyServe 0.5 (Old software, FYI)

http://www.summary.net/soft/easyserve.html

Dump the files you want to share, preferably zipped, into the docs folder, and add a link to the index.html file. Open the html file by typing your iBooks IP address (you8 find that in the TCP/IP control panel) into the address bar in IE on the Windows machine.

Then, right-click the link and "Save As". That's always workedfor me, but you should keep in m ind that EasySeve is pretty stupid. You need top have things just-so for it to work properly.

As for uploading? Well, you can try hunting down an FTP server, but I use MacOS X's built in one, so I can't recommend one.


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#15 2003-01-13 7:38 pm

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Re: Mac-PC network

(shudder)...How about just setting up a regular local network using the router as a hub? Can it be done? I'm not denying that the web server thing would work, but I'm not sure that it would be much more convenient than using floppy disks, as I've been doing until now. (Although it would allow me to transfer bigger files.) The two computers are already physically connected, so I don't understand what the problem is; I just know that Windows totally ignores the possibility that one might want to connect a Mac to a PC and the Mac Help files I've looked at haven't been any more helpful.

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