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yeah... giving an example of what kinda information you want could definitely help.



and i dunno if either canadian students or american students are "smarter"

it's defintely unfair to generalize either way.

but i have a of respect for the public education that i've recieved.

I think it's a regional issue, not a national one. Here in the east the quality of education has really gone downhill compared to Ontario and the west, and I can't think of any school that would compare to the one Malkin went to in the US.

Oh, and we are "smarter" because we don't spend all our time worrying about standardized tests 

Smarter?  No.  Better educated?  Perhaps.  However, there is a wide range in the quality of education received across the States and probably in Canada as well.  Also, just because the government or a school board deems something worthy of knowing doesn't mean it actually is.  There are plenty of things I was taught in school that are completely useless in the Real World.

You need to be more specific as to what kind of information you want.  Education is a very broad topic.

Obviously not, they're Canadian, what do you think?
J/K, Canada is ill.

You can stop posting now. I got it done.

Post your report foo

Yah, and 10% of American students couldn't find the US on a map...  D'oh.   

OH MY! DId they interview every student to find that out?

Yah, and 10% of American students couldn't find the US on a map...  D'oh.   

im gonna go slit my wrists now......see yall in hell
(jk obviously)

I would assume that like any respectible survey they had a certain sample from various high schools around the nation.

Trying to remember who did the survey - it was a semirespectible organisation...  I read about it on MSN a while back...  Hrmm...

Do you have an issue with the way the survey was taken?  Or do you question other statistics made publicly available simply because not every person has been physically interviewed?

it was national geographic.....

read more here  and here

I don't think it's so much a question of smarter, just more educated.  If someone goes to a private school they aren't necessarily smarter, but they will supposedly get a better education.  This just means that they are wealthy, not necessarily smart.

Here on the north shore of Vancouver, At my school West Van Hight, it's one of the top rated public schools in BC.  It usually fluctuates around the 2nd or 3rd rated public schools in BC, or so we're told.  I can't remember the last person who didn't graduate, aside from dropouts, and 90% of our students go to university or college.  almost a quarter of our grade twelves get scholarships of some sort.  Here, about 80 of the 200 grade 10 students are on the honor role (3.67 GPA or higher) and about 40% of the student body takes all enriched courses.  Being smart isn't a bad thing here.  Most of the struggling kids are really nice to the smart kids, mostly so that they'll help them.  Myself, well I have received the Principal's Award of Merit every year of High School, and this is the award that the school gives to the 3-5 top well rounded (not just academics, but they are the most important factor) students of each grade. (Sorry, I don't mean to sound conceited or anything, I'm just trying to put some perspective on this for Bundy)  We also have the IB (International Baccalaureate) program and the Challenge Program; both are very successful.  Last year there were over 50 IB Diploma Graduates.  This basically means that they did the grade 11 and 12 curriculum in their grade 11 year, and then in grade 12 they finish up some grade 12 stuff, and start first year university.  Usually, IB graduates get to skip first year of University.

Anyway, that's my school.  At my cousin Natalie's school, Windsor, in North Van, well things are a bit different.  I don't know many statistics, but I have gone to her school for a day and went to all her classes with her (this was set up and allowed by the school) when my school had a pro D day and they didn't.  Anyway, from what I saw and what she tells me, things aren't so nice there.  Basically, there is a far smaller percentage of kids in the enriched programs, and overall, the school seems to put very little importance on any enriched programs.  The scholarship, graduation, and post-highschool education rates are all much lower.  Although I have to admit their arts program is very successful and there is a very high participation level.  Also, many of the kids there seem to believe that all West Van kids' families are filthy rich, blah blah blah.  This is completely untrue.  West Van is the wealthiest area of Greater Vancouver, (well there is also an area called Shaugnessy, but West Van is actually a city in itself) but not all people there are rich.  This is very far from the truth.  For example, both my parents are public school teachers, and the situation in Canada is even worse than the US.  There was even a nasty strike this year, and the teachers were forced to come back.  Even now, many teachers refuse to participate in extra curricular activities etc., which is perfectly understandable, but also frustrating for the students.  Anyway, West Van is in a nice area, but the kids aren't rich, many people, like my family, were smart and bought their houses almost 30 years ago when the price was low, and now have watched the price increase over 15X what they paid.

Then there is Surrey.  Surrey and East Van are the not so nice areas of Greater Vancouver.  In some of the schools there, the post education rate is less than 20%, and the smarter kids kind of live in fear of bullies etc.  There were even 2 or 3 kids who committed suicide in the past couple of years from excessive bullying.

Basically, I'd say you can't really generalize a whole country.  More school by school, or at the most, area by area.

Also, I know that jkahless and torque guy both live around Vancouver, but I don't know where specifically torque guy lives, and I don't really know about the school situation in White Rock where jkahless lives, as it is pretty far out from the city, but maybe their experiences will be different?  I don't know

(Edited to add some stuff)

.....they've never heard of water polo.

I am not try to be sarcastic, but seriously what is Water Polo. Maybe I have not heard of it because I am on the East Coast.
Explaination, please?

I didn't know what it was either