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#26 2003-01-02 7:50 pm

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Water polo is rugby played in the water, essentially.  tongue

It's quite possibly the most violent game available to play in high school.  You're trying to get a ball into a goal across the pool.  Almost everything is legal, including breaking bones (assuming the ref doesn't see who exactly did it) and they're known for pulling swimsuits off and/or clawing with specially-grown toenails.

It requires that you be in excellent shape (to swim quickly and be strong enough to try to drown people) and is considered kind of the academic's football (well, at least it was in my school).

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#27 2003-01-02 9:34 pm

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.....they've never heard of water polo.

I am not try to be sarcastic, but seriously what is Water Polo. Maybe I have not heard of it because I am on the East Coast.
Explaination, please?

I never actually played, but I guess it's kind of like playing soccer in a pool, but with hands allowed. The important thing is that Football wasn't thebe-all-and-end-all, even when we made the state finals.


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#28 2003-01-03 12:15 am

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It is true that alot of students in my school just don't give a poop (I'd say about 1/4 of them could not care less about school).

And off to school I go. sad  mad  evil

I would consider myself (and so would some others...) as a person that doesn't really give a poop about school, but I still do better than 90+% of the people in my grade, according to my GPA...

Ah the public school system.. I too was victim


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#29 2003-01-03 6:03 pm

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It is true that alot of students in my school just don't give a poop (I'd say about 1/4 of them could not care less about school).

And off to school I go. sad  mad  evil

I would consider myself (and so would some others...) as a person that doesn't really give a poop about school, but I still do better than 90+% of the people in my grade, according to my GPA...

That's because you're smart. You learn stuff by showing up to class and listening to the teacher drone on, as do I. We don't have to give a crap, because we get 80% of the information on the test through osmosis.

Intellect has at least to do with it as drive - I've known a couple kids who had to work their butts off just to get Bs and Cs, because they really weren't that smart. Do I feel sorry for them? Yes, of course. But that doesn't change anything.


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#30 2003-01-03 6:17 pm

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Hey all, I just registered here. I was on the old board sometimes, just came to see they use phpBB, I just installed that for a couple friends big_smile

Anyway, interesting subject here. I went to school in PA as an exchange student for one year. It was a private school and people told me it was the toughest school in the county.
It was nothing compared to my German school. We *never* get multiple choice or matching tests.
The NG survey was ridiculously easy in my opinion. Did they get the multiple choice as well?

 

#31 2003-01-03 6:36 pm

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Doh! Just noticed my old login for the forums is still working. Haven't been here a long time... From now on, I'm MattK again.

 

#32 2003-01-04 10:34 am

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Alright, just to make sure it's working.

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#33 2003-01-04 10:55 am

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We had an exchange student living with us for a year also (from Germany).  She found our schools pretty easy too - of course, she was also in a public school and not taking any honors or upper level courses.

And for the record - I never got multiple choice tests until I hit college (what does THIS say?  Although it was only in a few classes...)  But from what our exchange student described - German tests are like 6+ hours of essays over a period of time.  Something about barely being able to write afterwards.

As to the question of who is smarter - it's what you're willing to put into it, combined with natural intelligence.  In my Calculus 3 class last semester, there was 1 person who studied almost never and another person who did every problem in the book, not just the assigned ones.  They both had the same grade in the class (they'd both lost 1 point total) - so either one was doing too much work or one had the intelligence to make up for less studying.

Saying that it's completely smarts or completely hard work is BS - and the mix of what it takes to make a grade is different for each person.

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#34 2003-01-04 11:01 am

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I went to school in PA, maybe there is a difference between states in how tests are set up. It's right, we often have to take tests over a period of several hours. I never had a 6-hour one, but 4 hours is quite normal. You get bad cramps in your hands after those.
I'm ususally pretty bad at math, since I often get stuck halfway in problems. But our Calculus teacher in PA allowed us to ask her questions during tests  eek , so I got mostly As.

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#35 2003-01-04 1:43 pm

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Calculus 3 wasnt in a public high school was it?


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#36 2003-01-04 2:00 pm

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No - most high schools only have up to Calc 2.  I took calc 3 at my local JC.

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#37 2003-01-04 2:02 pm

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No - most high schools only have up to Calc 2.  I took calc 3 at my local JC.

heh calc 2, not at the overfunded high school I went too.


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#38 2003-01-04 3:47 pm

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Well, allow me to rephrase: Calc 2 is an AP Test, so it can be offered.  I don't think there's any way to get college credit for Calc 3 if you take it in a high school.

And my school was hideously underfunded (and all funds went towards the new staff work room anyway) so I have no idea how we got Calc 2.  tongue

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#39 2003-01-04 4:10 pm

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Well let me rephrase, the money for our school was misappropriated. Instead of getting textbooks for core classes (wich had none, or not enought) they built a new gym, for a total of three.

This school being in the same district which, in my opinion, wasted 3 million USD on a new library for Columbine (some money may have been donnated) while they still had a perfectly usable library with bad memories. They converted that into a fluffy atrium.

Still the school I went to has old/no/crappy textbooks.

Its not that schools need more money, they have too much as it is, they just need people who know how to spend it wisely.


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#40 2003-01-04 4:32 pm

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Yes, same with our school.  We have four gyms, 2 of which are 4 feet short of NBA size, a 5 million dollar theater being built, we even have big screen TVs in all the socials and english classrooms, and a few others.  Plus standard TV's in every classroom, and about every 100 feet in the hallways, which display video announcements, etc.  But the textbooks in my socials class are older than the students.  My teacher handed them out to us, and said "take them home, and don't bother bringing them to class.  We're never going to use them."  Students often ask why we can afford big screen TVs, but not textbooks.  He said "because TVs look good to the parents.  Nobody every sees the textbooks."  So yeah, it's all about image, not about quality.


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#41 2003-01-04 4:53 pm

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Arg yes, you brought up another point I forgot to mention: TVs

Every classroom had one when I left. Their sole purpose was to display the moring annoucements.

What a waste...


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#42 2003-01-05 12:14 am

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Well, for us, we also benefit from the magic of POWERPOINT.  Oh, and we also wasted around 120 K on this stupid safari system, basically it's about a hundred VCR's in the library, networked to the TVs throughout the school.  Unfortunately, it has no benefits to just having a VCR for every TV (which would have been much cheaper BTW), but actually rarely works, so most teachers just stop watching videos in class because they waste most of the class having people like me and the other student techs come in and get the goddamned things to work.  But it looks good  roll Now our school can say they have "state of the art technology everywhere" even though the computer labs have under $200 creme de la crap P2s, ranging from 66 MHz to 133 MHz.  We even have a "graphics lab"  but it's only called that because they're the only ones with machines able to open photoshop.  Although it is almost unusable on them.  But everyone just assumes the computers are nice, because our school is "state of the art".


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#43 2003-01-05 5:27 am

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Triana, what are the ant people like?


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#44 2003-01-05 10:48 am

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They're very nice - but as soon as I post this, I won't be Lord anymore.  I should be "Lady" anyway.  smile

And guys, don't complain about TVs and such going to waste.  At least your school has technology.  When I left (last year), we were still running primarily on 486s.  The teachers get Gateways with P3s and occasionally you can find a decent student computer.

It really ought to be illegal to take grant money and use it to wipe out 4 classrooms to put in a teacher workroom and then complain that (1) we don't have enough money and (2) we don't have enough classrooms and on top of it, turn the problem into a bond issue, raising everybody's property taxes for the next 20 years.   twisted

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#45 2003-01-05 7:32 pm

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Education spending seems to be neglected all over the world.
Well almost, it seems that many northern countries such as Sweden and Norway are doing quite good in those areas.

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#46 2003-01-05 7:39 pm

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Education spending seems to be neglected all over the world.
Well almost, it seems that many northern countries such as Sweden and Norway are doing quite good in those areas.

Maybe they dont have a teachers union, one could only hope.


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#47 2003-01-05 7:45 pm

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In Europe?

I really doubt it.   roll

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#48 2003-01-05 7:46 pm

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Here in Germany, teachers have the status of government officials, which means it's very hard to fire them  eek

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#49 2003-01-05 8:09 pm

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Here in Germany, teachers have the status of government officials, which means it's very hard to fire them  eek

Thats unfortunant. Same here tho.


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#50 2003-01-05 8:10 pm

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Where are you, Styer?

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