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#26 2003-07-25 1:02 pm

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Re: Texans fume about Eve's boobs


What's wrong with the naked human form?

the law says its wrong

Jeez... somebody had better tell the Metropolitan Museum of Art -- they've got naked ladies all over the place! Those lawless bastards!

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#27 2003-07-25 1:05 pm

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Re: Texans fume about Eve's boobs


What's wrong with the naked human form?

the law says its wrong

Jeez... somebody had better tell the Metropolitan Museum of Art -- they've got naked ladies all over the place! Those lawless bastards!

you have a problem seeing the obvious dont you? Those are all on the inside of the building where people have to pay to see it. This is on the outside where *everyone* can see it. Can you see it?


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#28 2003-07-25 1:21 pm

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Re: Texans fume about Eve's boobs

Next thing, they'll try to ban anything from the masters.

I'm still trying to figure out why it's ok to have a gallery devoted to penises but it's not ok to have a masterful work depicting a female human form.

you have a problem seeing the obvious dont you? Those are all on the inside of the building where people have to pay to see it. This is on the outside where *everyone* can see it. Can you see it?


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#29 2003-07-25 1:23 pm

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Re: Texans fume about Eve's boobs

i feel so loved big_smile


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#30 2003-07-25 1:37 pm

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Re: Texans fume about Eve's boobs

http://www.dallasnews.com/localnews/sto … 4f928.html  (requires login)

I don't see what all the fuss is about - the mural is graphic, but in a 2 tone, line art, illustrative, graphics-y sort of way - hardly obscene. it resembles God creating Adam (Michaelangelo? - I'm too lazy to check) in tone.

Some people will get their knickers in a bunch about anything. I find it more offensive when public display art is just plain bad or plain-ole-plain - this is seems well done to me.

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#31 2003-07-25 1:38 pm

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there should be a law against posting sites that require a login...


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#32 2003-07-25 1:44 pm

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Re: Texans fume about Eve's boobs

"The world would be a better place if more breasts and fewer bloody corpses were shown on television."

Parents can turn off the TV, but to stop their children from seeing a naked woman in that town they would have to refuse to allow them outside the house.

"God forbid kids actually see a painting of breastisies."

Do you have kids? Do you allow your 6-year old child to see naked pictures? You liberals really have a way of glossing over major issues.

"How about instead of "Censored" they put a black bar that says "Covered for the protection of the weak-minded""

Again... 5 and 6 year old children? I'm sorry, but pictures of nudity do not belong on the sides of buildings.

"No I don't, but these are conservative Christians who are complaining about it, I can almost guaranty you that."

Talk about prejudice. I'm not suprised. One set of rules for yourselves, and a set for everyone else.


All the liberal comments I've seen in this topic are ridiculous potshots, none of which have any bearing on reality. Just smart-assed comments that take the situation out of context and try to paint the defenders of decency as backward witch-burners. I wonder what the liberals would say if somebody painted a picture of aborted fetuses on the side of a building...

You can spin spin spin it all you want, but the simple fact is that a parent should not have to worry about covering their small childrens' eyes every time they drive by a building. If this was a high-school art show and people were complaining about "protect the children", I'd think it was ridiculous. But you have to draw the line, and a large painting of a half-nude woman in the middle of a town crosses it.


I'm going to leave it at that.

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#33 2003-07-25 1:47 pm

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Re: Texans fume about Eve's boobs

It's aways news outlets, too. All this one asks is for an email address. I really despise the ones that ask for information, like it's something they could use - "ooh, a 53 yr old man from pensacola linked from fark and read our article about the cat that accidently shot it's owner in the foot - now THAT's a useful demographic"
Just to justify not hijacking this thread; did anyone else bother to find out what the mural looked like, before posting an opinion about it? It was actually more innocuos than I thought it would be.

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#34 2003-07-25 1:50 pm

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Re: Texans fume about Eve's boobs

What's the phenomenon that happens between the time an infant actually feeds from breasts and the period he/she can't look at them until 17 or 18?  When does the breast change from essential to "harmful material"?  This never made sense to me.


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#35 2003-07-25 1:50 pm

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Re: Texans fume about Eve's boobs

Here...

Avert your eyes, kiddies!!! This is practically PORN!!

http://www.dallasnews.com/localnews/stories/L_IMAGE.f5d745f86b.93.88.fa.7c.c23e7c7c.jpg


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#36 2003-07-25 1:53 pm

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Here ill make it easy on everyone

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#37 2003-07-25 1:54 pm

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Re: Texans fume about Eve's boobs

What's the phenomenon that happens between the time an infant actually feeds from breasts and the period he/she can't look at them until 17 or 18?  When does the breast change from essential to "harmful material"?  This never made sense to me.

Heres an amazing idea you may have heard before: some parents dont want their kids looking at this stuff.


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#38 2003-07-25 2:09 pm

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"The world would be a better place if more breasts and fewer bloody corpses were shown on television."

Parents can turn off the TV, but to stop their children from seeing a naked woman in that town they would have to refuse to allow them outside the house.

"God forbid kids actually see a painting of breastisies."

Do you have kids? Do you allow your 6-year old child to see naked pictures? You liberals really have a way of glossing over major issues.

"How about instead of "Censored" they put a black bar that says "Covered for the protection of the weak-minded""

Again... 5 and 6 year old children? I'm sorry, but pictures of nudity do not belong on the sides of buildings.

"No I don't, but these are conservative Christians who are complaining about it, I can almost guaranty you that."

Talk about prejudice. I'm not suprised. One set of rules for yourselves, and a set for everyone else.


All the liberal comments I've seen in this topic are ridiculous potshots, none of which have any bearing on reality. Just smart-assed comments that take the situation out of context and try to paint the defenders of decency as backward witch-burners. I wonder what the liberals would say if somebody painted a picture of aborted fetuses on the side of a building...

You can spin spin spin it all you want, but the simple fact is that a parent should not have to worry about covering their small childrens' eyes every time they drive by a building. If this was a high-school art show and people were complaining about "protect the children", I'd think it was ridiculous. But you have to draw the line, and a large painting of a half-nude woman in the middle of a town crosses it.

What a load of crap.

Get it through your head already: there's nothing  HARMFUL or DISGUSTING about the human body or about seeing it. That seems to be the point here, which you clearly can't seem to really grasp. A naked person in and of itself is not "lewd and obscene". Under your clothes, even YOU are naked right now.

This idea that children MUST NEVER, EVER SEE A NAKED PERSON is insanely puritanical, and not too much different from the same mindset the TALIBAN and other Middle-Eastern cultures hold when they force women to wear Burkas.

Now if you want to argue the issue, you'll have to quit whining about "the liberals" (like every liberal thinks exactly alike, right?) and come up with a logical and believable reason why seeing a naked human being is somehow damaging to anyone, kids included. What IS damaging, on the other hand, is perpetuating the idea that "Oh my GOOD GOD!! Johnny! Don't look at that picture, there are BREASTS!!" is an appropriate reaction.

I repeat: there is nothing EVIL, WRONG, DISGUSTING or OBSCENE about the human body. Pretty much everybody owns one. Teaching kids that it's HORRIBLE and BAD is, indeed, horrible. Not to mention pretty damn twisted.

Now, explain why YOU feel the mere sight of breasts is so disgusting that it will corrupt children and you might have a point to discuss.


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#39 2003-07-25 2:13 pm

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Re: Texans fume about Eve's boobs

eek  Really?!

Edit:  This was in response to Styer's sarcastic gem of reason: "Heres an amazing idea you may have heard before: some parents dont want their kids looking at this stuff."


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#40 2003-07-25 2:17 pm

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Re: Texans fume about Eve's boobs

Do you have kids? Do you allow your 6-year old child to see naked pictures? You liberals really have a way of glossing over major issues...  Again... 5 and 6 year old children? I'm sorry, but pictures of nudity do not belong on the sides of buildings.

Do you realize that there are nudes all over our country's capitol in various artisitc forms?  Do kids leave D.C. damaged because of it?

Explain how this Eve is "harmful material."  What's the harm?


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#41 2003-07-25 2:21 pm

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Re: Texans fume about Eve's boobs

the law says its wrong

The law does not say it's wrong.  The sheriff decided that the nude of Eve is "harmful material for minors."  So, if you're so against it, explain what the "harm " is.  What happens to 10 year old Johnny when he looks at the image?


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#42 2003-07-25 2:26 pm

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Re: Texans fume about Eve's boobs

&lt;filthy smut&gt;

Ahhh! Now thanks to you KF, I will be spending the after-life in a firey purgatory!

But seriously guys everyone getting mad about this is totally over-reacting.

Can someone please tell me why calmly explaining to a kid that those "round thingies in the picture" are breasts which are used to feed babies would cause the child to suddenly become totally corrupted?

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#43 2003-07-25 2:31 pm

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Can someone please tell me why calmly explaining to a kid that those "round thingies in the picture" are breasts which are used to feed babies would cause the child to suddenly become totally corrupted?

I agree.  I'll add that we wouldn't have to explain the nature of breasts if they weren't hidden from view in the first place.  Many kids have already used them in infancy.  The trick is simply not to make them forget or be ashamed of that soon after.


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#44 2003-07-25 2:35 pm

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Re: Texans fume about Eve's boobs

Do you realize that there are nudes all over our country's capitol in various artisitc forms?  Do kids leave D.C. damaged because of it?

No...they leave there damaged for a whole different set of reasons. nod


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#45 2003-07-25 2:38 pm

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Re: Texans fume about Eve's boobs

I wonder what the liberals would say if somebody painted a picture of aborted fetuses on the side of a building...

Actually, I've seen plenty of anti-abortion protests where the participants weild the most grotesque images possible, for maximum impact. . . so much for keeping that from 'the children'.

And there are examples of 'public art' the subject of which is the partialy clothed or nude human form. . . the statue Mr. Ashcroft had draped, for instance.

It's not as if they blew up a photo of Ron Jeremy and Sharon Mitchell in mid coitus for the benefit of all the young'uns, now, is it?


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#46 2003-07-25 2:51 pm

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Re: Texans fume about Eve's boobs

Now that we've all seen it, it begs 2 points:

1) this thing is huge - did the artist paint it overnight?
"look Maudie, that wasn't there yesterday"

- or did authorities wait until the owner had gone to the expense of having it finished before complaining about it, so he can spend even more covering it up, or 'fixing' it, so it meets their approval?

2) Most towns have laws regarding approval on what murals a business can paint on its building - for good reason. A poorly painted/designed one, or say 4 20' TMNTs on the side of a building would be offensive to some as well (that would be me).

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#47 2003-07-25 3:00 pm

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Re: Texans fume about Eve's boobs

I wonder what the liberals would say if somebody painted a picture of aborted fetuses on the side of a building...

Actually, I've seen plenty of anti-abortion protests where the participants weild the most grotesque images possible, for maximum impact. . . so much for keeping that from 'the children'.

Good point. During my senior year of high school I volunteered a couple days a month as an escort for the local Planned Parenthood. Protestors regularly showed up with their children in strollers and gruesome pictures of aborted fetuses. I recall some children actually holding said pictures.

More importantly, drawing a comparison between a nude painting of Eve and a mural of aborted fetuses is so stupid it's laughable.


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#48 2003-07-25 3:19 pm

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Re: Texans fume about Eve's boobs


What's wrong with the naked human form?

the law says its wrong

Jeez... somebody had better tell the Metropolitan Museum of Art -- they've got naked ladies all over the place! Those lawless bastards!

you have a problem seeing the obvious dont you? Those are all on the inside of the building where people have to pay to see it. This is on the outside where *everyone* can see it. Can you see it?

Someone better tell the St. Louis Art Museum, then!  It's free, and they don't check IDs at the door! Anyone regardless of age can walk right in and see BOOBIES and PENISES!


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#49 2003-07-25 3:22 pm

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Re: Texans fume about Eve's boobs

All the liberal comments I've seen in this topic are ridiculous potshots, none of which have any bearing on reality. Just smart-assed comments that take the situation out of context and try to paint the defenders of decency as backward witch-burners.

lol  lol

The defenders of decency? That's a good one, I'll have to remember that one. big_smile Along with a lot of others here, I would like an explanation of how this is indecent.

You can spin spin spin it all you want, but the simple fact is that a parent should not have to worry about covering their small childrens' eyes every time they drive by a building.

I totally agree. Parents shouldn't worry so much about sweet little Johnny seeing a boobie. Why should a parent worry about stuff like this? What's so wrong about it?

In Brussels there's a fountain of a little naked, and the water spouts out of his spout. It's quite famous, and kids see it all the time. No biggie.

Like someone else mentioned, Justice herself had a breast exposed, until the brilliant Ashcroft decided she was trying to be a porn star.

All over Europe there's statues of nude, no problem.

Here in Colorado Springs there is a giant statue of a guy on a horse and the horse has its giant horse balls swinging low. Big deal. The only problem that causes is traffic accidents because people cannnot understand the concept of a roundabout.

Little kids read National Geographic and watch the Discovery Channel right? Those uncencored African and South American breasts, and even native penises and vaginas don't hurt them.

If there was proof, or even a decent argument, that a kid seeing boob would hurt them, then there might be an argument for taking it down because a parent doesn't want their kid to see it, or taking it down because it damages their fragile little psyches. As it is now, however, it makes as much sense as cencoring a statue of Washington crossing the Potomac because seeing an oar is harmful to children.


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#50 2003-07-25 3:23 pm

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Re: Texans fume about Eve's boobs

Oh, and KingFred...


http://www.dallasnews.com/localnews/stories/L_IMAGE.f5d745f86b.93.88.fa.7c.c23e7c7c.jpg

Don't post that filth here. wink


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