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#52 2003-08-10 11:22 pm
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Re: Favorite "chain" restaurants
No other restaurant can make hashbrowns or an omelet like Waffle House.
diner snob: Maybe no restaurant can, but any halfway decent diner runs rings around WH. That's going to be one of the smurfy things about moving away from NJ: real diners (usually built from 1920s to the mid-1950s, cooks and waitresses often on the job 25+ years) are very hard to find away from the East Coast.
WH's are everywhere here. Especially now in the richest areas because all the snobs think it's hip.
That's really strange. Almost every WH I've been to, even the brand-new ones, have a decidedly sleazy vibe that scares regular people away. Even in broad daylight they're full of vagrants, truckers, and the odd hooker or two, give or take an old guy muttering to himself. For sure they're a few pegs below even the smurf fast-food chains in respectability, and even most chain/theme restaurant regulars shy away from it.
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#53 2003-08-10 11:34 pm
Re: Favorite "chain" restaurants
there's a great diner place in my town, but its only open for breakfast and lunch. i live near chicago
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#54 2003-08-11 2:33 am
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Re: Favorite "chain" restaurants
there's a great diner place in my town, but its only open for breakfast and lunch. i live near chicago
what's it called.
oh, and cracker barrel is great.
and how could anyone forget krispy kreme, i love those, but only when they're hot and fresh (they make original glazed doughnuts from 5pm-11am every day nonstop)
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#55 2003-08-11 3:09 am
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Re: Favorite "chain" restaurants
diner snob: Maybe no restaurant can, but any halfway decent diner runs rings around WH. That's going to be one of the smurfy things about moving away from NJ: real diners (usually built from 1920s to the mid-1950s, cooks and waitresses often on the job 25+ years) are very hard to find away from the East Coast.
I have to agree with that. Having recently completed a 6000 miles road trip, I had the chance to eat a great deal of breakfast in several states. We mostly at places like denny's, ihop,cracer barrel etc. But the best breakfast I ate was at a place in the middle of nowhere in Missouri. It was a rather small diner place. It only had one cook and one waitress. It was pretty cheap too!
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#56 2003-08-11 8:06 am
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Re: Favorite "chain" restaurants
No other restaurant can make hashbrowns or an omelet like Waffle House.
diner snob: Maybe no restaurant can, but any halfway decent diner runs rings around WH. That's going to be one of the smurfy things about moving away from NJ: real diners (usually built from 1920s to the mid-1950s, cooks and waitresses often on the job 25+ years) are very hard to find away from the East Coast.
I have lived all over, and never in my 25 years have I ever had any restaurant or diner or other person make an omelet like WH. It's all in the eggs.
WH's are everywhere here. Especially now in the richest areas because all the snobs think it's hip.
That's really strange. Almost every WH I've been to, even the brand-new ones, have a decidedly sleazy vibe that scares regular people away. Even in broad daylight they're full of vagrants, truckers, and the odd hooker or two, give or take an old guy muttering to himself. For sure they're a few pegs below even the smurf fast-food chains in respectability, and even most chain/theme restaurant regulars shy away from it.
Most of them around here are really new, in fact there are probably 3 total that I can remember being around before we started moving around outside of here. They only have one or two in North City/County to my knowledge, too much risk of robberies and murders there. But all the ones I have gone to have been full of rich kids and rich women, none of which are hookers...to my knowledge. Even the staff is made up of teenage girls and college students.
Meh..Oh well. 
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#57 2003-08-11 8:48 am
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Re: Favorite "chain" restaurants
But all the ones I have gone to have been full of rich kids and rich women, none of which are hookers...to my knowledge. Even the staff is made up of teenage girls and college students.
Then you've never been to a real Waffle House.
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#58 2003-08-11 9:04 am
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Re: Favorite "chain" restaurants
But all the ones I have gone to have been full of rich kids and rich women, none of which are hookers...to my knowledge. Even the staff is made up of teenage girls and college students.
Then you've never been to a real Waffle House.
I should have included this vital piece of info--AROUND HERE. I thought it was implied considering the context I tried to keep it in. My apologies.
I have been to others. Georgia, KY, and the nasty one just before Columbus, OH. But I have never stayed to eat there. I am a snob, remember?
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#59 2003-08-11 9:08 am
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I thought it was implied considering the context I tried to keep it in. My apologies.
No, no. I inferred that just fine. I just thought I'd give you smurf anyway.
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#60 2003-08-11 9:09 am
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I thought it was implied considering the context I tried to keep it in. My apologies.
No, no. I inferred that just fine. I just thought I'd give you smurf anyway.
And I love you more for doing so.
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#61 2003-08-11 9:12 am
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Re: Favorite "chain" restaurants
The best thing about this thread is watching the snobs talk about how they would never set foot in a chain place and how they're ruining the world with their chain food!!
I don't know that they're ruining the world, but you're definitely going to find far better, and far worse for that matter, at locally owned and operated places. Chains are about consistency and mediocrity.
I eat at them sometimes -- probably Baja Fresh and Outback more than the others. They're both cheap and fairly good, but I don't go expecting truly great food.
Still, I can get much better meals at local places like Kabob Hut and Andy Nelson's for takeout, and Charleston for fancier fare than I can at any chain.
Also, almost none of the chains take reservations, and for some reason they seem to have ungodly long waits for tables, at least around here. Why people will wait an hour to be served mediocre food when they could get a table at a great local place much faster I will never understand.
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#62 2003-08-11 9:14 am
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I thought it was implied considering the context I tried to keep it in. My apologies.
No, no. I inferred that just fine. I just thought I'd give you smurf anyway.
And I love you more for doing so.
That reverse psychology isn't gonna work on me, bitch.
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#63 2003-08-11 9:15 am
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Re: Favorite "chain" restaurants
Oh I forgot a good one..
Stir Crazy.
That place smurfing rocks.
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#64 2003-08-11 9:16 am
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Re: Favorite "chain" restaurants
I thought it was implied considering the context I tried to keep it in. My apologies.
No, no. I inferred that just fine. I just thought I'd give you smurf anyway.
And I love you more for doing so.
That reverse psychology isn't gonna work on me, bitch.
Oh well..I tried.
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#65 2003-08-11 9:18 am
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Re: Favorite "chain" restaurants
I thought it was implied considering the context I tried to keep it in. My apologies.
No, no. I inferred that just fine. I just thought I'd give you smurf anyway.
And I love you more for doing so.
That reverse psychology isn't gonna work on me, bitch.
Oh well..I tried.
You didn't try very hard. I think you must love me.
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#67 2003-08-11 9:48 am
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Re: Favorite "chain" restaurants
Have I ever denied that I did?

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#68 2003-08-11 4:32 pm
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Re: Favorite "chain" restaurants
I don't exactly live in an upscale area, but the Palm Springs /Rancho Mirage areas are about 40 min. away, so if we want to watch a movie that fills the screen, instead of flowing outside the edges, or buy clothes that aren't from Walmart or Penney's, we go there.
My Point (yes, finally here it comes) is that there is a noticeable difference in chains when you compare lower/middle class neighborhoods and rich ones. The Penney's in Palm Desert for instance, has much nicer clothes than the one here in town (which tends to carry size 3 and size 18, but none in between anyway), and the food, including Big Macs, is made with much better, fresher ingredients than what one expects any where else. For the same prices though. My hometown doesn't have anything to speak highly of in the way of chains (Denny's, Carrrows, KFC, MacDonald's), but in PSprings and environs, there are plenty, and they are almost all good. I like Olive Garden, Outback, The Yardhouse (mainly SoCal, but opening one in Lakewood, CO) and several others along those lines. I've eaten at these chains elswhere in the country, and I've been disappointed.
I remember eating in a WH in Cicero, or maybe it was Stickney, back in the '80s, that was definitely a trucker, hooker, general miscreant hangout. Any chain would've match that description in that area, if it didn't burn first.
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#69 2003-08-11 5:02 pm
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Re: Favorite "chain" restaurants
...and a little restaurant chain (owned by Shoney's) called Pargo's (I couldn't find a logo online for them).
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#70 2003-08-11 5:47 pm
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Ok, I'm gonna have to be a snob and damn you to hell for making me look at the Golden Corral logo.
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#71 2003-08-11 6:16 pm
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Re: Favorite "chain" restaurants
Stir Crazy.
yuck, that place is worse than pf changs (which, at the new one in chesterfield, once had a 2 hour 45min wait on a tuesday, smurfing unbelievable). the small authentic chinese places are so much better (and cheaper).
also, in stl, they recently opened the first cheesecake factory. being from CA, i knew they had pretty mediocre food. the wait for them makes our pf changs sound like fast food.
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#72 2003-08-11 7:15 pm
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Re: Favorite "chain" restaurants
Stir Crazy.yuck, that place is worse than pf changs (which, at the new one in chesterfield, once had a 2 hour 45min wait on a tuesday, smurfing unbelievable). the small authentic chinese places are so much better (and cheaper).
also, in stl, they recently opened the first cheesecake factory. being from CA, i knew they had pretty mediocre food. the wait for them makes our pf changs sound like fast food.
Theres a P F Changs here now? No smurfin smurf. Cool. There was one in Pgh and I never got to go. I always wanted to see what the hype was about.
The Cheesecake Factory is in the Galleria. Unless they put another one out in Chesterfield or something.
I love stir crazy. Mainly because it's all fresh and you make it yourself and have the little mexican guy (ain't that the weirdest) grill it up for you. I go there quite often.
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#73 2003-08-11 8:32 pm
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Re: Favorite "chain" restaurants
Stir Crazy.yuck, that place is worse than pf changs (which, at the new one in chesterfield, once had a 2 hour 45min wait on a tuesday, smurfing unbelievable). the small authentic chinese places are so much better (and cheaper).
also, in stl, they recently opened the first cheesecake factory. being from CA, i knew they had pretty mediocre food. the wait for them makes our pf changs sound like fast food.Theres a P F Changs here now? No smurfin smurf. Cool. There was one in Pgh and I never got to go. I always wanted to see what the hype was about.
The Cheesecake Factory is in the Galleria. Unless they put another one out in Chesterfield or something.
I love stir crazy. Mainly because it's all fresh and you make it yourself and have the little mexican guy (ain't that the weirdest) grill it up for you. I go there quite often.
the pf changs is right around chesterfield mall
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#74 2003-08-11 10:29 pm
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Re: Favorite "chain" restaurants
Stir Crazy.yuck, that place is worse than pf changs (which, at the new one in chesterfield, once had a 2 hour 45min wait on a tuesday, smurfing unbelievable). the small authentic chinese places are so much better (and cheaper).
also, in stl, they recently opened the first cheesecake factory. being from CA, i knew they had pretty mediocre food. the wait for them makes our pf changs sound like fast food.
Stir Crazy is a quasi-Chinese chain? I was wondering what the hell it was supposed to be. Here, Stir Crazy is the name of a strip joint.
I've never been to PF Chang's, and I don't really intend to. I suppose I should go just once, just so I can roundly denounce it with authority. No Chinese chain restaurant could possibly compete with a good local one, I think. Actually, I think the same holds true for any other kind of cuisine.
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#75 2003-08-11 11:36 pm
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Re: Favorite "chain" restaurants
I've never been to PF Chang's, and I don't really intend to. I suppose I should go just once, just so I can roundly denounce it with authority. No Chinese chain restaurant could possibly compete with a good local one, I think. Actually, I think the same holds true for any other kind of cuisine.
Nice thinking.
Many of these these theme restaurants are owned by the same few megacorporations. One company oversees Red Lobster, Macaroni Grill, On The Border (whatever that BS "Mex" place is called), Chili's, and so on. Another will do that idiot Rainforest Cafe, TGIFridays, Ruby Tuesday's, etc. None of it's even remotely authentic; it's the result of some marketing smurf deciding there's room for another "Italian" restaurant, then picking it up from there.
That's why you'll see the same restaurants clustered together so often, the same way stores owned by The Limited and stores owned by The Gap are together in the mall. We studied chain restaurants in one of by business classes and I nearly smurf at how incestuous these operations are. (Just for curiosity I'd put together a list for you folks but I'm using the world's slowest Mac, a 6100/60, and it would take a small eternity to do.)
Check their regard for the cultures they appropriate: The radio commercials for Romano's Macaroni Grill use a couple of remarkably fake "Italian" chefs who bicker about Mama's Old World Recipes, while Outback Steakhouse ads (and no, of course that restaurant doesn't exist in Australia) use parody Australians whose accents sound more cockney than anything else. And it's a fair guess that the first Chinese guy to get anywhere near a PF Chang's was probably a dishwasher.
I'm not Italian or Australian or Chinese, but I still find it insulting that these creeps have no problem borrowing elements of a culture they have no connection with, then turning out a mockery of the real thing.
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