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#26 2003-08-15 12:46 pm
- Tallgeese
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Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
You hypocrite! you say I have nothing to stand on, and then you talk about "launching massive efforts" to kill gays and that it is a "clear declaration of war". You have yet to show any truth in that, you won't argue - you only say "ha" and pretend like that's an answer. Start giving evidence or actual proof instead of pulling unsubstantiated quotes and shrugging off anyone who asks for evidence.
Let's get Best Buy to post good things about Clinton and Northwind to vote Republican too.
Hey, all I was asking for was some links between his claims and facts. You know, logical conclusions and all that. Is that too much to ask?
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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#27 2003-08-15 12:47 pm
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Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
Just to add some Jesus Quote (tm):
Blessed are you when people revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account.
That does seem to fit the occasion.
George Bush: "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
George Bush: "One of the hardest parts of my job is to try to connect Iraq to the war on terror."
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#28 2003-08-15 12:48 pm
Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
You hypocrite! you say I have nothing to stand on, and then you talk about "launching massive efforts" to kill gays and that it is a "clear declaration of war". You have yet to show any truth in that, you won't argue - you only say "ha" and pretend like that's an answer. Start giving evidence or actual proof instead of pulling unsubstantiated quotes and shrugging off anyone who asks for evidence.
Hey, all I was asking for was some links between his claims and facts. You know, logical conclusions and all that. Is that too much to ask?
From XYZ yes, remember this is the same person who said it was ok to make stuff up as long as it fit his argument. I seem to recall the verbage being "for the purposes of this thread its true"
heh
Just like back in Saigon! Eh, slick?
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#29 2003-08-15 1:45 pm
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Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
now, here's something Jesus said in the NT...
'Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning
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#30 2003-08-15 1:47 pm
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Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
first off, the Bible was written through men by God.
*takes notes*
"One thing we've learned is there's a difference between being disappointed and having madmen in authority."
--Paul Krugman
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#31 2003-08-15 1:48 pm
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Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
first off, the Bible was written through men by God.
*takes notes*
never go by what i say...do the research yourself. that should be Note #1. 
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it." Abraham Lincoln
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#32 2003-08-15 1:49 pm
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Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
God said homosexuality is wrong so i'd just drop it at that, personally.
I just spoke to God and he's still waiting for you to remove that sinful photo from your avatar.
"One thing we've learned is there's a difference between being disappointed and having madmen in authority."
--Paul Krugman
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#33 2003-08-15 1:50 pm
- bratboy
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Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
first off, the Bible was written through men by God.
*takes notes*
never go by what i say...do the research yourself. that should be Note #1.
....and there is some sort of 'research' I can do that will show me that the Bible was written "through men by God?"
I doubt that.
"One thing we've learned is there's a difference between being disappointed and having madmen in authority."
--Paul Krugman
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#34 2003-08-15 1:51 pm
Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
first off, the Bible was written through men by God.
*takes notes*
never go by what i say...do the research yourself. that should be Note #1.
....and there is some sort of 'research' I can do that will show me that the Bible was written "through men by God?"
I doubt that.
you never know until you try
Just like back in Saigon! Eh, slick?
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#35 2003-08-15 1:56 pm
- bratboy
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Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
[rant]
...and could somebody please tell me why homosexuality is being treated as the biggest sin around these days? It's not on the top ten list, is it?
Can you think of any number of *legal* activities that this person or that person believes are frowned upon by God as being sins? Why harbor this belief that whatever God believes is a sin should also be illegal? If you think something is bad, then you shouldn't do it! I don't have to follow those rules, because I am not a christian!
I answer to my conscience at the end of the day...who is not 'all forgiving' like someone else I know.
[/rant]
"One thing we've learned is there's a difference between being disappointed and having madmen in authority."
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#36 2003-08-15 2:00 pm
Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
...and could somebody please tell me why homosexuality is being treated as the biggest sin around these days?
You just hear about it a lot because XYZ keeps bringing it up
Just like back in Saigon! Eh, slick?
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#37 2003-08-15 2:00 pm
- SpacemanSpiff
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Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
Okay, okay, first let me thank you all for not equating Catholic to Christian. That hack of a religion (that offers no hope) upsets me daily.
Last time I checked, the only organized groups that were causing hate and discontent weren't really Christian groups. They were just highly misguided groups thinking they were doing God a favor. What a pack of morons.
"The first time one sees natural beauty which is privately owned; oceans as people's back yards, confounds the senses. I didn't know God had a a toy store for the rich." -- Spanglish
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#38 2003-08-15 2:08 pm
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Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
Okay, okay, first let me thank you all for not equating Catholic to Christian. That hack of a religion (that offers no hope) upsets me daily.
Last time I checked, the only organized groups that were causing hate and discontent weren't really Christian groups. They were just highly misguided groups thinking they were doing God a favor. What a pack of morons.
I just hate it when someone discludes another group from their general religion because they are embarrassing. Even misguided Christians qualify as Christians. The Catholics are certainly Christians whether you agree with what they are doing or not.
George Bush: "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
George Bush: "One of the hardest parts of my job is to try to connect Iraq to the war on terror."
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#39 2003-08-15 2:18 pm
- NokX
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Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
God said homosexuality is wrong so i'd just drop it at that, personally.
I just spoke to God and he's still waiting for you to remove that sinful photo from your avatar.
personally, i just think she's a beautiful model. but you're right, it can advocate lust. *looking for a new avatar...*
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it." Abraham Lincoln
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#40 2003-08-15 2:20 pm
- NokX
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Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
[rant]
...and could somebody please tell me why homosexuality is being treated as the biggest sin around these days? It's not on the top ten list, is it?
Can you think of any number of *legal* activities that this person or that person believes are frowned upon by God as being sins? Why harbor this belief that whatever God believes is a sin should also be illegal? If you think something is bad, then you shouldn't do it! I don't have to follow those rules, because I am not a christian!
I answer to my conscience at the end of the day...who is not 'all forgiving' like someone else I know.
[/rant]
technically, in God's eyes all sins are equal. (and remember, i've never claimed to be perfect) if you don't believe in God, that's your choice. God gave us all free will.
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it." Abraham Lincoln
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#41 2003-08-15 2:30 pm
- SpacemanSpiff
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Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
I just hate it when someone discludes another group from their general religion because they are embarrassing. Even misguided Christians qualify as Christians. The Catholics are certainly Christians whether you agree with what they are doing or not.
Okay but know we are stuck with defining terms;
If your definition of Christian is someone who calls him/herself a Christian then "You Win". And I could stand in my garage and call myself a car.
I like to think that someone who calls him/herself a Christian should be doing the things that Christ said to do, for example: "Love God, Love People" (Matthew 22:36-40 and yes, I paraphrased).
This isn't about being embarrassed, they just don't fit the definition. (Is this the part where I say that not all catholics blah, blah, blah....)
"The first time one sees natural beauty which is privately owned; oceans as people's back yards, confounds the senses. I didn't know God had a a toy store for the rich." -- Spanglish
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#42 2003-08-15 2:33 pm
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Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
if you don't believe in God, that's your choice. God gave us all free will.
Well I'll be sure to shake his nonexistent hand the next time I see him.
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#43 2003-08-15 2:33 pm
- SpacemanSpiff
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Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
[rant]
...and could somebody please tell me why homosexuality is being treated as the biggest sin around these days? It's not on the top ten list, is it?
[/rant]
Quite frankly, I don't think anyone cares that someone else is a homosexual. It's lifestyle they can't handle. For the fun of it, check out:
http://www.amazinginfoonhomosexuals.com/sexuality.htm
People just can't handle it. So they try to condemn it.
"The first time one sees natural beauty which is privately owned; oceans as people's back yards, confounds the senses. I didn't know God had a a toy store for the rich." -- Spanglish
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#44 2003-08-15 2:37 pm
- bratboy
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Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
Quite frankly, I don't think anyone cares that someone else is a homosexual. It's lifestyle they can't handle. For the fun of it, check out:
Well I just wish that FOR ONCE, religious followers all around the world would learn to mind their own business in matters that do not concern them and that, especially in this country, they should know better than to let the teachings of their 'god' dictate our laws when there is no other apparent reason (ie, an infringement on someone else's rights) to do so.
Wishful thinking, I know.
"One thing we've learned is there's a difference between being disappointed and having madmen in authority."
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#45 2003-08-15 2:59 pm
Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
now, here's something Jesus said in the NT...
'Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning
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#46 2003-08-15 3:08 pm
- bratboy
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Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
You assume wrong. I actually have a B.A in this stuff.
Very interesting.
"One thing we've learned is there's a difference between being disappointed and having madmen in authority."
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#47 2003-08-15 3:31 pm
- Tallgeese
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Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
Okay, okay, first let me thank you all for not equating Catholic to Christian. That hack of a religion (that offers no hope) upsets me daily.
Last time I checked, the only organized groups that were causing hate and discontent weren't really Christian groups. They were just highly misguided groups thinking they were doing God a favor. What a pack of morons.
Hot damn! I love running into "Catholics aren't Christians" people. They're so much fun to make look like idiots!
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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#48 2003-08-15 3:34 pm
- Tallgeese
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Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
Where are you going to start? Is it "Catholics worship Mary" or maybe "confession isn't in the Bible" ? Maybe you'll pull some wonderful "facts" from Jack Chick to support your arguments!
Here, here's some help:
"Are Roman Catholics Christians?
LAST RITES (ooh, spooky!)
The DEATH COOKIE! (always a fun one, it puts Art Bell to shame!)
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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#49 2003-08-15 3:41 pm
- Neut
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Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
God said homosexuality is wrong so i'd just drop it at that, personally.
I just spoke to God and he's still waiting for you to remove that sinful photo from your avatar.
I see nothing wrong with his avatar, from a Christian point of view. God made boobies and pretty girls. It's all ok. Unless you get into the lust part, as was pointed out.
Cross over the cell bars, find a new maze, make the maze from it's path, find the cell bars, cross over the bars, find a maze, make the maze from its path, eat the food, eat the path.
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#50 2003-08-15 3:49 pm
- Tallgeese
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Re: Archbishop condemns Vatican propaganda
God said homosexuality is wrong so i'd just drop it at that, personally.
I just spoke to God and he's still waiting for you to remove that sinful photo from your avatar.
I see nothing wrong with his avatar, from a Christian point of view. God made boobies and pretty girls. It's all ok. Unless you get into the lust part, as was pointed out.
Now, from a "homosexuals shouldn't throw their sexuality in everyone's face" point of view... 
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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