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#26 2003-09-22 3:05 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

Belief in Evolution?  Now there is faith in action.


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#27 2003-09-22 3:05 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

yah...because we all have seen the evidence that proves evolution.  oh wait...nevermind.  there is none.

lol, it may not prove it, but it at least "highly suggests" it.  Give me ANY evidence that highly suggests creationism...

did the house you live in evolve from nothing, or did someone build it?

Were the formations at Arches National Park in Utah built by anyone or did they come about by chance?


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#28 2003-09-22 3:10 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

Life is part of the natural process/cycles in the universe.
Evolution is part of the cycle of change. Demonstrated cause and effect.


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#29 2003-09-22 3:12 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

has the building of houses evolved or are we still using caves


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#30 2003-09-22 3:12 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

according to the evolutionary theory...  life came from something (they haven't figured that part out yet), and then somehow, that one "organisim" managed to live and duplicate with itself.  then because being an organisim floating around wasn't adequate, it decided to grow fins and gills and because it knew it needed to see, it grew eyes.  then, living in the water wasn't cutting it, so after a few million years of flopping onto land, it grew lungs and fur and/or scales.  some decided to become really slow sloths, some into mosquitos that just live for a day, some into birds after millions of years of attempting to be airborn, and now we have all the billions of species all over the globe we have today.

Very close, but teleological explanations are not the mechanism of action in evolution.  Thus all that you wrote in the above is wrong.


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#31 2003-09-22 3:13 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

has the building of houses evolved or are we still using caves

Just because somethings evolved doesnt mean you can jump to the conclusion that everything did


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#32 2003-09-22 3:14 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

that's about the worst explanation of evolution I've ever heard.  let me try my hand at your side:

creationism states that some guy was around before anything else, but had a week of vacation time.  he spent this time dropping sod on a ball of rock, making animals, and deciding that when he turned on a light he was going to call it day.  when the light burned out, he called it night but was too lazy to replace the bulb so he left it for a few hours.  then he got kinda lonely so he created a garden to play in and people to entertain and fear him.  oh, wait...or was it he created one person and then dug out a rib to create someone else...hmmm.  either way, now we have billions of people all over the world.  after those six grueling days of working, the guy was exhausted so he took his final day off to smoke up.


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#33 2003-09-22 3:14 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

has the building of houses evolved or are we still using caves

Just because somethings evolved doesnt mean you can jump to the conclusion that everything did

True.

Also true is that because something DIDN'T evolve doesn't mean you can jump to the conclusion that nothing did.


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#34 2003-09-22 3:19 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

has the building of houses evolved or are we still using caves

Just because somethings evolved doesnt mean you can jump to the conclusion that everything did

just because we build houses doesnt mean we were built by superman


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#35 2003-09-22 3:22 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

has the building of houses evolved or are we still using caves

Just because somethings evolved doesnt mean you can jump to the conclusion that everything did

just because we build houses doesnt mean we were built by superman

thats why they are both theories


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#36 2003-09-22 3:23 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

has the building of houses evolved or are we still using caves

Just because somethings evolved doesnt mean you can jump to the conclusion that everything did

True.

Also true is that because something DIDN'T evolve doesn't mean you can jump to the conclusion that nothing did.

Reread my post. I didnt jump to that conclusion


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#37 2003-09-22 3:24 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

Without evolution, there can be no extinction.
Or species diversification.
And resistant bacteria strains.


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#38 2003-09-22 3:24 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

has the building of houses evolved or are we still using caves

Just because somethings evolved doesnt mean you can jump to the conclusion that everything did

True.

Also true is that because something DIDN'T evolve doesn't mean you can jump to the conclusion that nothing did.

Reread my post. I didnt jump to that conclusion

I know you didn't.  Someone else did.


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#39 2003-09-22 3:25 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

has the building of houses evolved or are we still using caves

Just because somethings evolved doesnt mean you can jump to the conclusion that everything did

True.

Also true is that because something DIDN'T evolve doesn't mean you can jump to the conclusion that nothing did.

Reread my post. I didnt jump to that conclusion

I know you didn't.  Someone else did.

well you need to be more clear next time tongue


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#40 2003-09-22 3:27 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

I was perfectly clear. You just jumped to an unwarranted conclusion.  tongue


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#41 2003-09-22 3:28 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

I was perfectly clear. You just jumped to an unwarranted conclusion.  tongue

no you were not, now you have resorted to xyz tactics tongue


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#42 2003-09-22 3:30 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

Tallgeese is correct: you assumed he was talking about you, Sty, and that was not the case. You owe Gooseman a beer or something.


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#43 2003-09-22 3:32 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

Tallgeese is correct: you assumed he was talking about you, Sty, and that was not the case. You owe Gooseman a beer or something.

he quoted me so it was a valid assumption


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#44 2003-09-22 3:33 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

Tallgeese is correct: you assumed he was talking about you, Sty, and that was not the case. You owe Gooseman a beer or something.

he quoted me so it was a valid assumption

Well, I rarely post without quoting someone...

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#45 2003-09-22 3:37 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

has the building of houses evolved or are we still using caves

Just because somethings evolved doesnt mean you can jump to the conclusion that everything did

just because we build houses doesnt mean we were built by superman

thats why they are both theories

i see satire is lost on you


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#46 2003-09-22 4:34 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

yah...because we all have seen the evidence that proves evolution.  oh wait...nevermind.  there is none.

lol, it may not prove it, but it at least "highly suggests" it.  Give me ANY evidence that highly suggests creationism...

did the house you live in evolve from nothing, or did someone build it?

Were the formations at Arches National Park in Utah built by anyone or did they come about by chance?

umm...  formations != life

if i take my waterhose out in my front lawn and spray it at the ground long enough, i'll make a dent in the ground.  try spraying a person long enough with a waterhose and wait for them to turn into a fish.


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#47 2003-09-22 4:39 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

that's about the worst explanation of evolution I've ever heard.  let me try my hand at your side:

He slept through that class in school.


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#48 2003-09-22 4:41 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

Without evolution, there can be no extinction.
Or species diversification.
And resistant bacteria strains.

i'm not saying natural selection doesn't occur.  a species can very well be wiped out.  surviving and evolving are two totally different concepts.

and you say, "but that's just it...we evolve to survive"

it only takes a matter of years for an animal to be extinct...  it (according to the evolutionary theory) takes millions and millions for a creature to evolve.


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#49 2003-09-22 4:43 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

it only takes a matter of years for an animal to be extinct...  it (according to the evolutionary theory) takes millions and millions for a creature to evolve.

I'm sorry....do you at least believe in 'evolution' with a supreme being getting the ball rolling, or do you think that all men came from adam and eve, and that dinosaur bones are put there by the devil to mislead you, etc...


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#50 2003-09-22 4:51 pm

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Re: Is this satire or real?

that's about the worst explanation of evolution I've ever heard.

so you disagree with evolution?  what in what i said do you not agree with?

let me try my hand at your side:

creationism states that some guy was around before anything else, but had a week of vacation time.  he spent this time dropping sod on a ball of rock, making animals, and deciding that when he turned on a light he was going to call it day.  when the light burned out, he called it night but was too lazy to replace the bulb so he left it for a few hours.  then he got kinda lonely so he created a garden to play in and people to entertain and fear him.  oh, wait...or was it he created one person and then dug out a rib to create someone else...hmmm.  either way, now we have billions of people all over the world.  after those six grueling days of working, the guy was exhausted so he took his final day off to smoke up.

it goes more like this...

Source

looking at life around you, the huge gaps in our attempt at figuring out "evolution", that life came from somewhere, and that that one thing of "life" managed to survive and become these billions of various species all over the world...  you actually believe in evolution?

bear in mind, we have yet to find any links between species.  there have been assumptions and guesses, but no solid proof.

where's the fossils that shows us the steps between each life form?

maybe i've missed it, but i haven't seen a series of fossils that shows the evolution of a cell, to a fish, to a whatever, to an elephant.  or any species for that matter.


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