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#1 2003-01-05 11:48 pm

nzilla
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NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

On page 8 of February 2003's MacAddict there is a letter from Rik saying that, due to the sagging economy, the MacAddict disc will not come with a sleeve this month. Mine did. What about you?


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#2 2003-01-06 12:28 am

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

Quit copying /.

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#3 2003-01-06 12:46 am

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

5. Sleeves are for Backstreet Boys; Iron Maiden vests are where it's at.

6. Whether or not mine came with a sleeve this month really depends on my religious beliefs, and is none of your business.

I'll let you figure out what that second one means.


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#4 2003-01-06 6:02 am

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

7. I haven't got the December or January MacAddicts yet!


Grrr!


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#5 2003-01-06 7:04 pm

nzilla
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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

NotEnufCash: Never!

Twisted Guy: I already have enough joke options.

atodd: Too bad. sad Vote when and if you ever get it! wink


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#6 2003-01-07 1:37 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

I really hope that the disc stays in one piece, I'm getting mine sent over seas to crispy cold Sweden smile


Now, where in the name of... did I put that thing that I forgot what it was and why I was looking for it?
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#7 2003-01-07 9:43 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

Mine came with a sleeve, but I didn't get one with the issue a few months ago (December?) when this topic last came up.  I wonder if that time was a test to see how much we'd complain or if the discs would get damaged...

In the long run, I guess it doesn't matter.  The sleeve is nice to have, but I'd rather the money went to keeping Macaddict "a better magazine."  I will miss looking at my nice stack of cd's in sleeves though.[/i]

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#8 2003-01-07 10:04 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

I didn't get a sleeve a few months ago, the disk was scratched pretty bad. I emailed them and they sent me a new one with the sleeve, took 9 weeks but I did get it.

The mag is about quality, no sleeve seems kinda low-res.

At the least, use a generic sleeve with a window to protect the CD.


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#9 2003-01-08 1:47 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

I got a sleeve too and I guess I glanced over that little tidbit.  Maybe people who have been subscribing for a while get the last of the bunch?  I've had my subscription since the beginning, 6/7 years.

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#10 2003-01-09 2:56 am

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

It would be nice if one of the mods who actually works for MA spoke up, but I guess they're all too busy testing all of their hundreds of products to be concerned with us mortals.  wink


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#11 2003-01-10 5:50 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

Finally!

I got my December and January issues yesterday (they got delivered together, for some reason) and both of them had sleeves on the Discs.

Great "The Truth" article, btw!


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#12 2003-01-15 10:29 am

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

I just got my Feb-issue today and Yup the CD came in a sleeve. I've just renewed my subscription 'cause with or without sleeves MA is THE Mac Mag for me. cool


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#13 2003-01-15 11:10 am

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

The price includes the sleeve and it should...
what good is the CD if it comes all damaged!

Maybee the big boss gave himself a raise... and that's where the money goes...

It can't be that expensive for the sleeve (per mag) but  El Cheapo will tell you that the total price is too much!

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#14 2003-01-15 12:22 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

Mine had a sleeve, I wondered about the note also. Perhaps it means future issues will lack sleeves?

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#15 2003-01-15 12:24 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

Mine came with one, but like others, I didn't get a sleeve a few months back, however, my disc was fine.  Mmmmmm Disc.   Gilligan give us Disc!

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#16 2003-01-15 1:52 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

I always throw my disk away. Why does it even come with a disk?

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#17 2003-01-15 2:29 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

I didn't get a sleeve a few months ago, the disk was scratched pretty bad. I emailed them and they sent me a new one with the sleeve, took 9 weeks but I did get it.

The mag is about quality, no sleeve seems kinda low-res.

At the least, use a generic sleeve with a window to protect the CD.

I had the same experience a few months ago. We publish a monthly CD to bankers, it's only 12,000 a month, and certainly not as big as the MacAddict distribution. But important to our customers.

At one time we had preprinted sleeves and mailers. We cut back to a basic white sleeve w/window. Final cost is $.06 a sleeve as oppose to $0.28.

We tried to do just the CD in a generic cardboard envelope, but had a 25 percent complaint rate. Reshipping 2,893 CD's in one month was more expensive than the $.06 a CD. Not to mention the stress on my staff and the bad taste it left in the customer's mouth. Some refuse to come back because of it.

There is a right way and a wrong way to cut corners, we learned a hard lesson. My advice, don't send your customers damaged CD's.


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#18 2003-01-16 1:16 am

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

Whoa! 2-day gap between getting the Jan issue and getting the February issue!

And yes, it came in a sleeve.

One slight thing that peeves me - MA used Giants: Citizen Kabuto on 2 Disc sleeves.  Arrh.


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#19 2003-01-16 11:43 am

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

Maybe the big boss gave himself a raise... and that's where the money goes...

Aha!  My secret is out!  Yes, I freely admit it -- I'm taking the sleeve money and procuring a bevy of svelte and downy minionettes to fan my fevered brow as I rack up more and more millions at the baccarat tables in Monaco.  Bwah-hah-hah-hah-ha!  twisted

Seriously, though, everybody in the publishing world is operating on a shoestring these days -- except, maybe, Maxim, but, uh, I don't wanna do a glossy, sweaty photo essay on "The Wenches of Macromedia" any time soon...

Sure, we'd like to keep the sleeve -- but we would've like to have kept Digital Droo even more, and we couldn't afford that, either.  I'd much rather have Jen, Chris, Leslie, Niko, Kris, Narasu, and Cathy than a Disc sleeve any day of the week.

Oh, and the estimate of $.06 per sleeve is just about right.  We print around a quarter million mags per month, so it adds up pretty fast.  And, BTW, our Disc damage rate (so far, at least) is miniscule -- but PLEASE let us know if your Disc is damaged so we can replace it.

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#20 2003-01-18 5:45 am

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

Alright - it's time to ask WHO CARES!?  I mean, unless the Disc is damaged (which, going by the sleeveless Macworld's track record, is going to be a rarity), it isn't that big of a deal.

I, for example, have a stack of about 20 paper CD sleeves.  God knows where they came from, but they somehow ended up strewn around my computer space.  If the Disc doesn't have a sleeve, I can use those.  So can you, if you have any.  Or get a spindle or something.  Or, and this is an alternative only for the either rich or insane - get one of those 200-disc CD/DVD changers.  You can fit every Disc MacAddict has ever made, plus over 100 other CDs or DVDs.

[neo]Whoa.[/neo]

But I like the sleeve anyway.  Bit of an oddity that it says in the mag that it doesn't have a sleeve, yet it does have a sleeve.  If it was printed in the mag that there wouldn't be one, then why was it even designed?


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#21 2003-01-18 3:21 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

just for the record, i buy macaddict instead of macworld .. and one of the main reasons is that the macaddict cd dosnt get all scratched to hell... i wouldnt mind if you raised my subscription price by 6 cents per month so that i could get my sleeve.....

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#22 2003-01-19 6:55 am

nzilla
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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

*snip*

OK, but you still didn't address the issue of the disc actually coming with a sleeve when it wasn't supposed to.  cry


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#23 2003-01-20 12:59 am

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

If I pay $15 a year extra for my subscription, can I get sleeves?  They're really that important to me.


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#24 2003-01-20 2:06 am

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

7. I haven't got the December or January MacAddicts yet!


Grrr!

neither did I


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#25 2003-01-20 4:13 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

My issues came on time with CD and sleeve.

So  tongue

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