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OK, but you still didn't address the issue of the disc actually coming with a sleeve when it wasn't supposed to. 

Quick answer: I dunno...  We edit folks are waaaay out-of-the-loop when it comes to circulation (luckily).

just for the record, i buy macaddict instead of macworld .. and one of the main reasons is that the macaddict cd dosnt get all scratched to hell... i wouldnt mind if you raised my subscription price by 6 cents per month so that i could get my sleeve.....

If I remember correctly, Macworld doesn't include CDs with subscriber copies -- you only get one with newsstand issues.  Am I wrong?

Devil's advocate... do we really need the CD?

I could do without the sleeve. But I really enjoy the Disc. That's probably the biggest reason I subscribe. All that good software, four new music tracks a month (I bought a Moon Theory CD because they were on the MA Disc), and the staff videos, which are usually pretty entertaining.

I think subscribers should have the option to get the Disc or not. Non-Disc-subscribers should get 10 bucks a year off their subscription price, or something like that. That would make everybody happy. (Except the circ managers who have to keep track of who's who.  )

If cutting the CD keeps MacAddict afloat I'm all for it.

I agree with you there.

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OK, but you still didn't address the issue of the disc actually coming with a sleeve when it wasn't supposed to. 

Quick answer: I dunno...  We edit folks are waaaay out-of-the-loop when it comes to circulation (luckily).

just for the record, i buy macaddict instead of macworld .. and one of the main reasons is that the macaddict cd dosnt get all scratched to hell... i wouldnt mind if you raised my subscription price by 6 cents per month so that i could get my sleeve.....

If I remember correctly, Macworld doesn't include CDs with subscriber copies -- you only get one with newsstand issues.  Am I wrong?

I think there's a "pay more and get a CD" option with Macworld.  But I was serious -- I'd be willing to pay $15 extra/year for my subscription just to have a CD sleeve.

MacAddict is the best Macmagazine in my opinion. Here in Sweden we only have one mag these days since the Swedish Macworld ate/took over the other Macmag ie MacPressen. MacPressen was the better mag since they weren't so uptight and more of an independent (from Macworld) source.

The Swedish Macworld is not of my likening, they're very critical to Apple, they are booring and direct themselves more to the professional user than to the average user. Though a subscription cost 520 skr (about $59 if I've calculated it correctly) they don't include a CD. Also a one year subscription only includes 10 issues!

I remember I've asked them once why they didn't have a CD with the Mag and the answer was that they wouldn't put a CD on the mag until they could find anything worth putting on it. Well duh? They've also limited the website so that only subscribers can access the "good parts".

I would gladly pay some extra $ for getting MA with the CD. Though I don't have much use for the OSX apps right now - use 9.1 - I know I will have use for them the day I can affort to buy a new Mac with X. If the economy of the Mag is an issue maybee you could think out another way to package the CD - an envelope of some kind maybee. I get my issues in a pretty good protected packaging - double plastic bags, ie one around the Mag and the CD and one around that.

Whatever happens I hope that I can continue subscribing. I've just recently extended my subscription for another year.

I just got my new copy [Mar 03] and it did come sleeveless.  And the CD has nasty junk on it from rubbing on the issue in the mail.  It also ruins my nice collection of MacAddict CD's in nifty little sleeves.  *tisk tisk*

UGH UGH UGH UGH!!!

I want my SLEEVE!

I agree, and I'm kinda torqued about not getting a sleeve with my March issue (February's had one).  It costs $0.22 or so for the nice color sleeve?  Then raise the price of subscriptions by a buck and you're money ahead for years!  I'd gladly pay a little extra for the sleeve.

I just got my renewal notice for MacAddict and was going to renew for 2 years, but now I'm rethinking whether I will or not.  Yes, the sleeve is that important to me!

march didnt have a sleeve 

and now my disk has scuff marks.... and how the heck am i supposed to organize my disks if they dont have cases??? i used to out them in a cd rack, approx 3 sleeves per slot....now i either have to put them in cases or spindle them... and its difficult to find what you are looking for in a spindle

what would cost less?
A) The manufacture and packaging of CDs
B) The bandwidth for a download section on the site

There's a simple solution to this problem. I've been a subscriber since issue #02 and have a complete collection. I'm pretty angry about this whole sleeveless snowjob.

If it only costs .06Cents per sleeve then raise the price of the magazine by .06cents for subscribers and newsstand issues. Newsstand issues are inheirently more than subscriber issues anyway and the public would probably never even notice the increase. It's not like the post office with it's weekly incremental increases in stamp prices.

If MacAddict chooses NOT to tack on a little extra (less than a dime) to keep our beloved sleeves (wtf am I do do with 78 sleeved CD's and on naked one I ask the staff...) then perhaps EVERYONE reading this who is upset that a sleeve is no longer included should take simple action.

Goto the part of MacAddict's site and request ANOTHER cd. If enough people do that (and replace the CD they must since it's part of the subscription contract we've entered into with them) perhaps this little so-called "Cost Cutting" move of theirs will end up costing them more than the ? $12,000 or so it costs them now to print sleeves. The more I think about it the more angry I become.

Shipping a loose CD in an already iffy sealed bag is stupidity. Plain and simple. The ignorance of the fool who decided this is was a good move is worthy of the all mighty Lead Pipe in my humble opinion.

I'll gladly pay a tiny bit extra for the sleeve. Gladly pay. Do you hear MacAddict staff!? I WANT TO PAY MORE MONEY TO GET THE SLEEVE!

So there you have it. If you're miffed about the cd's going sleeveless then go request a new one and lets drive up their costs even more.

I cannot believe they're skimping on the sleeve to save roughly 12,000 bones when they can just take a que from the United States Postal Office and raise prices by 6 or so cents per issue.

W. Raider

That only works for people who own printers.

I don't believe in printers. Therefore I don't use one.

I say just include this months sleeve with next months issue. To make up for screwing us. Just don't forget to include next months sleeve as well.

Yes.

So three options exist.

01) Charge us the extra 6 cents so we get a sleeve. The magazine feels incredibly cheap without one. My powerbook is made of titanium, and is about one inch thick. Yet the best Mac magazine out there can't even put it's CD in a paper sleeve? How's that reflect on Apple and MacAddict's concern for their customers? Darkly that's how. I'll gladly pay an extra few cents for a sleeve. Maybe it's time to start predicting the demise of MacAddict Magazine...they've obviously run out of money since they can't afford an extra piece of cardboard...

02) Loose the CD altogether. Make a sleeve for the last months that have a CD so we end the era of the CD (which is basically useless) on a high note with a complete set of sleeved (including March's) CDs.

03) Demand that since we're paying the same for each issue on the newsstand or the same fee for our subscription yet are getting less -no more sleeve- that MacAddict deduct 6 cents from our subscription rates and knock off 6 cents from the cover price. I for one am a little ticked off that I'm paying the same now for a sleeveless CD as I was for a nice smart sleeved one. They're ripping us off and laughing at us. We pay the same amount yet they're $12,000 per month closer to being in the black?

Where is that extra $12,000 a month going? Maybe we can find out in their SEC filing.

Keep your Lead Pipes at hand faithful MacAddict readers...

W. Raider

Got the latest issue, bag was torn open and the CD was scuffed up. This is the second time this has happened. I'll have to test the CD on one of my try loading Macs, last time I put a scuffed CD in a slot loading iMac I regretted it.

Hasn't anyone at the Magazine realized that one of the reasons we subscribed was for the CD? Sleeve and all?

For the last three years we have been told how bad it is at MacAddict. They've let the Web site go, they've cut good people because of the economy, they can't pay the people who run the website or that work in the office. It goes on and on, if things are this bad, close the doors. If I wanted this I'd read Dear Abby. All of the b*tchin and maoning has gotten old.

I just don't care anymore, Quality is no longer an issue for MacAddict. when this subcription runs out I'm done.