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no-sleeve disk was scratched, so the music kept dropping out, then the whole thing crashed out. and i pay for what?

Yes, if you have any problems with the CD at all run, do not walk to the macaddict page and request a replacement. Perhaps such a sudden jump in the number of CD replacement requests will teach them that CD sleeves are a GOOD THING and that all the replacement CD's plus the cost of shipping will cost them more overall.

I'm fairly confidant that this "cost saving" move of killing the sleeve will end up costing them more in the end.

In fact go request another CD if yours is fine anyway. Until they knock off 6cents from every issues cover price and everyone's subscription we're paying the SAME for LESS. That makes me wanna shine up 'Ol Mr. Lead Pipe.

Don't let them get away with this.

W. Raider

What happened to the good days?

Ah, yes...  The eternal question...

If you're talking about MacAddict, the answer's pretty simple:

February '98: staff = 16
February '03: staff = 8

If you're talking about the original cast of SNL, muscle cars, the sexual revolution, or NBA players who actually believed in passing and defense, I can't help you.

What happened to the good days?

Ah, yes...  The eternal question...

If you're talking about MacAddict, the answer's pretty simple:

February '98: staff = 16
February '03: staff = 8

If you want to hire me, I could use a job. I'll make the sleeves for you. If you let me work from home in PA.

If you're talking about the original cast of SNL, muscle cars, the sexual revolution, or NBA players who actually believed in passing and defense, I can't help you.

SNL sucks really badly now.

Muscle cars are for people who want to be different... like me!

Sex.. well.. I can't say much about that yet.

NBA? Sports suck. I hate sports.

Just include March's Sleeve in April's Bag and continue to make sleeves for everyone, charge us an extra 6cents and the matter will be resolved.

W. Raider

The problem is we all keep our CD's neatly organized in their sleeves. But when you have one CD out of hundred or so without a cover, it becomes frustrating. Awkward.. WEIRD. I mean it's not like the CD's are shipped in Jewel Cases. It's cardboard. Even if you just shipped a plain white or brown cover with a number on it, we'd be happy because it'd have a cover. Protection.

At least I'D be happy.

Why not sell the back of the sleeve as an advertising space? It's a durable ad that readers would save for years.

Maybe some enterprising reader can fill the void and start selling third party iSleeves 

Selling ad space on the Sleeve is BRILLIANT!

If MA fails to take action to that end they truely are blind.

They get happy readers.
They get more cash.

Everyone's happy.

Do it.

Based on the difference in price between the standard $24 subscription (not the $29 renewal rip-off rate) and the semi-secret $18 disc-less subscription makes the disc (with sleeve) a 50-cent item, assuming the publisher makes/loses the same amount on both options. Now, if we assume it costs another 50 cents to package and mail that disc as a replacement for a missing or defective one (total cost $1.00) every request for a replacement disc negates the savings of twenty (20) subscriber issues sent with a naked disc.

Doesn't take long for the law of diminishing returns to kick in, does it?  :idea:

Now, if we assume it costs another 50 cents to package and mail that disc as a replacement for a missing or defective one (total cost $1.00) every request for a replacement disc negates the savings of twenty (20) subscriber issues sent with a naked disc.

Doesn't take long for the law of diminishing returns to kick in, does it?  :idea:

I wonder what Rik will have to say about this (if anything).

"Life is a purple antelope in field of tuna fish."

--Alfred E. Newman.

Well, you were wondering...

"Life is a purple antelope in field of tuna fish."

--Alfred E. Newman.

Well, you were wondering...

I guess that demonstrates the level the MacAddict Staff and it's Editor have for their customers concerns. Zero.

W. Raider

Okay, okay, okay...

I've posted a number of times on this topic, have read every comment and have answered every email.  I believe my comments at http://64.58.168.25/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7433 were rather thoroughgoing.

The Alfred E. Newman comment was an attempt at levity.

I'll continue reading these posts.

I also read everything that goes to letters@macaddict.com.

I'm collecting all emails into a report for senior management here at Future Network USA.

But I'm finished commenting.

And in the interests of full disclosure, I gotta say, Mr. W. Raider, that you...

...uh...

...that you...

Hmmm...  Maybe I better not...

Kudos for the artwork on the March disk #79.  The actual disks have been rather plain for the past few months, so it's nice to see the silk-screened (?) printing getting bolder again.  I feel this is some compensation for the lost sleeve.

I always liked the pictures on the MacAddict disks.  They were little pieces of pop art.

Yep, it's me again. And I simply must chime in with this observation.

I head out to my local magazine rack and grab a copy of March 2003 Macaddict. Yep, there's a nice normal sleeve there in the bag. I turn to the sweet girl working there and give her puppy-eyes and say, "Is there any chance I can have just the sleeve for the cd in here. This right here." Pointing to the sleeved CD suffocating in the bag. It was then I noticed something I'd never seen before. I've been a subscriber since issue#02 so I've never really seen an issue as it exists on the newsstand.

What I see is that the CD sleeve seems attached to a large cardboard sheet larger than the magazine itself. One side is glossy, the other is matte. She replies, curling up the right side of her mouth in the cutest way, "Ok. But ah...I didn't see it. Ok?"

I promptly tear the bag open like a bag of Lime Tortilla Chips and  pull out this mysterious -and obviously as expensive as the sleeve- large sheet of cardboard. WTF?

It's like a crib sheet for the magazine. Worse yet is that on the matte side is "The Disc Jewel-Case Insert" where you're instructed to cut out covers to put in an empty Jewel Case for your MacAddict CD!!!!

WTF?!?!

Ok, lemme get this straight:

01) The Newstand comes with the infamous 6cent Sleeve
02) The Newstand comes with a large cardboard sheet and AN ADDITOINAL JEWEL CASE LABEL CUT OUT
03) That large cardboard sheet is NOT included with the subscription varients. WTF is going on?

Not only do subscribers get NO SLEEVE, but non-subscribers get a sleeve AND a Jewel Case Label???? Two covers for ONE cd?

If that makes sense to anyone PLEASE, I beg of you, help me understand it. I sure as poop don't.

How much does that extra, larger-than-the-mags-dimentions cost anyway Rik? What's the point in having two freakin' labels for ONE CD, eh?

Am I the only here with both their eyes open? Please someone explain the logic here. By the looks of the instructions on how to cut along a dotted line these cut-out labels have been around since at least August 2002.

Rik, you gotta help me understand this. Look, if everyone doesn't get a sleeve, cool. If everyone GETS a sleeve, cooler. If subscribers get squat while non-subscribers get TWO FREAKIN' Labels than that's just mental. No wonder MA is bleeding cash. Why don't you just get rid of the large cardboard sheet thingy and SAVE THOSE PENNIES instead of taking away loyal subscribers sleeves, eh?

Btw, I bought the thing...as evidence.

W. Raider (highly confused at this point) :?: