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#101 2003-02-19 12:49 pm

danwolf
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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

W. Raider wrote:

I'd just like to mention a thought I just had. We subscribers are pre-paying for issues, we're buying the magazine sight-unseen. If that's not loyalty I dunno what is. We don't have -nor necessarily want- the luxury of looking at an issue either freed from the bag or at least it's cover through the bag before we pay for it as newsstand purchasers do.

Oh my god! That's such a new idea! Sub Script Shuns? I would have never thought of subcribing to a magazine like National Geographic or Time! Maybe I could subscirbe to my local newspaper and get it delivered everyday and give some pimple face teenager a job.

Maybe we could suggest this subscription idea to Sports Illustrated and they could make more money and give out football phones.


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#102 2003-02-19 1:47 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

Obviously the concept of what I'm trying to express there is beyond some people so I'll make it 6th grade reading ability like most newspapers...

The idea of a subscription is to pre-purchase a set number of preodicals on the assumption that quality will remain thoughout. Hence, it's buying sight-unseen. You lay your trust and your money on past performance and future hopes. Being a subscriber means that you feel the staff of a magazine will at least keep up the current standard of quality from the time of when you decide to subscribe until the time the subscription runs out.

Liken it to pre-paying for meals at a restuarant. Or pre-buying an artists novel, music cd or paintings. There's trust from the subscriber and a responsibility of the creator of the meal, cd, magazine or whatever to live up to that resposibility.

Obviously -to some at least- some people feel that MacAddict may not be living up to their end of the bargin when it comes to subscribers as the former part of this thread bears out.

If you suddenly feel that the concept of a subscription is new by all means send someone an email about it.

W. Raider


Rocko said it best, "I so happy!" Oh and never say no to a sailor.

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#103 2003-02-19 5:07 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

Does your MA CD work?

If the answer is no, ask them for a new one.

If the answer is yes, then shut yer pie hole.

You only pay $2.50 per issue with a subscription or you can pay $7 at the news stand and get the sleeve. $4.50 can buy you a lot of sleeves or quite a few jewel cases.

The newspaper I buy is 50 cents everyday except Sunday. Monday is usually a thin paper 60-64 pages while Friday is around 80 pages plus it has a pull out entertainment section. I pay 50 cents either way.

You need to have your head examined.


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#104 2003-02-20 7:51 am

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

Does your MA CD work?

If the answer is no, ask them for a new one.

Mine is damaged, I requested a new one that day, it's going to take 8 weeks to get it, just like last time.

The newspaper I buy is 50 cents everyday except Sunday. Monday is usually a thin paper 60-64 pages while Friday is around 80 pages plus it has a pull out entertainment section. I pay 50 cents either way.

If the kid leaves my paper in the snow without a bag it gets damaged and the Register used to replace it the next day. Except people were complaining that it was old news and they were'nt reading it. So now they credit our accounts. One thing about the Register though, they fired the kid that was doing that because they were losing 10 and 20 year subscriptions. Interestedly enough half of those who left found their news somewhere else and never renewed their subscriptions.


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#105 2003-02-20 9:08 pm

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Interestedly enough half of those who left found their news somewhere else and never renewed their subscriptions.

That's an excellent point. It takes a buisness a long time to build trust. Trust does not come with one or two transactions. Yet, it takes only one or two bad ones to potentially destroy trust.

Apple's "switch" from iTools to .Mac still leaves an unpleasant bitter flavor on the tongues of many. MA going sleeveless is a similar situation for some, dare I say many.

W. Raider


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#106 2003-02-20 9:20 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

Btw, has anyone tried direct contact with the brass of MA or Future Networks? (yeah yeah I know Rik posts here on the odd occasion).

MacAddict Publisher: Chris Coelho 415-656-8770

MacAddict Subscription Department: mcdcustomer@cdfullfillment.com, 888-771-6222

Future Networks: 415-468-4684 (www.futurenetworkusa.com)

http://www.futurenetworkusa.com/about/contact.html

Also has some good contact info.

Also, were any of you aware that there are more than two MA varients? There seem to be types, A3, B, B1, B2, B3 (North America), B4 and B5 of the magazine. All but type B3 have "ride-along" enclosures. Type B3 has "Standard enclosure".

I'm not 100% sure those are ALL MacAddict Magazine however. They may cover other magazines that Future Networks publishes like Official Xbox Magazine, Maximum PC, PC Gamer and PSM.

W. Raider


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#107 2003-02-21 12:35 am

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http://www.cockeyed.com/science/adverti … ising.html

I wonder how MA would stack up against other mags in terms of content/ad ratios.

W. Raider


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#108 2003-02-22 2:48 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

My March 2003 copy arrived badly scuffed on the important side (and I don't mean the front, kids). The journey from there to here was not kind on my copy of MacAddict; in fact, it rarely is. The only thing that kept the CD intact in the past WAS the cardboard sleeve, and now that's gone. I am very displeased.

I could give a tinker's dam about the decorative nature of the cardboard sleeves, tho' I do admit they have added to the overall attractiveness of my complete collection, but I am very concerned about the condition in which the CD arrives.

I don't have the extra time to spend on searching out demos and useful applications--like the folks at MacAddict, I'm in the publishing business and there are never enough hours in the day or in the life, it seems--and just reading all the posts on this topic took more time today than I typically spend online in a month. Since issue #1 was pressed into my moist hands way back when, I've looked forward to the spare moments I can spend reading the magazine and taking advantage of the time and effort that the MacAddict staff have put into The Disc. Call me old-fashioned, if you will. It's always boiled down to sheer convenience for me, and that's why I've continued to renew my subscription over the years.

Please, Rik, please consider some sort of inexpensive protective cover for the CD. I'd be much obliged. Thank you for your time and consideration.

A. Grrrl

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#109 2003-02-22 3:53 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

MacAddict is not an inexpensive magazine.  For the money we pay, we should be entitled to a sleeve. 

There are other ways to save money:
   - Don't print the sleeve in full color
   - Use cheaper, thinner paper for the sleeve
 
First, they took away the cool jumbo, graphic ocons on the CD.  Then, they took away the pretty Downy scent of the magazine.  Then the cut back on the number of letters in the letter section.  Then they put that ugly, over-serious font on the cover (ariel italics, I think).  Now... no CD sleeve??

I have every issue of MacAddict since issue 1.  Any more cut backs and I'll...I'll....just be a less-happy subscriber.

  - MaxAddict

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#110 2003-02-22 7:30 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

This struck me as pretty funny. One of my assitants requested a replacement March CD from MacAddict (because hers was sleeveless) and it came in the mail today...

...in a sleeve.

Nice.

Yes, my icon is a scan of it.

So everyone who didn't get a sleeve and wants one, request a replacement!

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#111 2003-02-23 5:53 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

TO ALL PEOPLE WITH THE #1 ISSUE:
In the letters section of issue 1 (or 2?) there is a family, called the A. Roach family. Back when Apple was down on hard times, they offered $32.50 per person in their family, and reccommended other macaddicts to do the same, to cure apples gigantic debt. If these Mac-Addicts are willing to send thirty bucks to a company they love, and expect nothing in return, Then I can spend an extra 6 cents per issue.

     Alas, Apple returned their check.

     I did all this off memory as my first 24 issues were stolen, and the people I whooped ass upon weren't the right ones. Damn. cry


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#112 2003-02-23 11:42 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

I see your 6cents and I raise you 4. I'm willing to spare an extra dime (that's ten cents to those in the back) more per issue if it would insure I get a sleeve with the CD.

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#113 2003-02-24 12:50 am

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

TO ALL PEOPLE WITH THE #1 ISSUE:
In the letters section of issue 1 (or 2?) there is a family, called the A. Roach family. Back when Apple was down on hard times, they offered $32.50 per person in their family, and reccommended other macaddicts to do the same, to cure apples gigantic debt. If these Mac-Addicts are willing to send thirty bucks to a company they love, and expect nothing in return, Then I can spend an extra 6 cents per issue.

     Alas, Apple returned their check.

     I did all this off memory as my first 24 issues were stolen, and the people I whooped ass upon weren't the right ones. Damn. cry

Yeah, that was in Issue 1.


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#114 2003-02-24 3:56 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

TO ALL PEOPLE WITH THE #1 ISSUE:
In the letters section of issue 1 (or 2?) there is a family, called the A. Roach family. Back when Apple was down on hard times, they offered $32.50 per person in their family, and reccommended other macaddicts to do the same, to cure apples gigantic debt. If these Mac-Addicts are willing to send thirty bucks to a company they love, and expect nothing in return, Then I can spend an extra 6 cents per issue.

     Alas, Apple returned their check.

     I did all this off memory as my first 24 issues were stolen, and the people I whooped ass upon weren't the right ones. Damn. cry

Why not buy $32 worth of shares? Helps both out and they won't return the check.


"You have the right to free speech. As long as, you're not dumb enough to actually try it." -Know Your Rights -The Clash

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#115 2003-02-24 6:00 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

Would love to get my hands on an issue 01 with the cd that would complete my collection.

Been a subcriber since issue 02 and love the mag. The cd is much more time saving than looking for the apps online.

My March issue came with no cd cover and I've had to request a replacement since the whole issue came damaged this time cry

The options I got were wait until March 1 to request the replacement as that was when it would be available to the replacement provider. Extend my subscription 1 month or go buy the magazine at the newsstand and extend the subscrpition for the lost issue.

My problem is that in any case accept the newstand option I have to wait up to 8 weeks for the mag.

I for 1 would be happy to pay a few dollars more for my subscription to receive my disks in a sleeve. Having to jump through hoops to request replacements at least twice and wait for weeks to get that replacement is annoying at best.

The cost of paying people to man the replacement lines respond to the requests and remail a replacement has to be more costly than sending the cd protected in a sleeve in the first place.

Since my first magazine arrived issue 02 I've only had to request 1 maybe 2 replacements. We'll see what happens now month by month.

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#116 2003-02-24 10:23 pm

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Re: NO SLEEVE FOR YOU!

The sleeves will return after April it looks like. Now all that's left to ponder is what MA did to enable their return.

Hmmmmmm.....

Still, I'm happy. And that's a rare thing.

W. Raider


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