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#1 2003-01-07 10:34 pm
Building another PC!!!
If you guys remember, last month I was able to build a PC with your help...
This is what I have now.
MSI KT3 Ultra2 $82.00
Athlon XP 1700 R. $69.00
256 DDR 2100 $49.00
Seagate 80 7200 $103.00
Case with 350W $39.00
G4 MX 64DDR 8X $85.00
CD/RW $29.00
CD ROM $15.00
Floppy Drive $15.00
Grand Total $486.00
a friend will buy this system from me, and I will be building a better PC for me.
I was told that the ASUS is a better MOBO than the MSI, I will buy the Athlon XP 2100 or better, and I will buy 512, everthing else will be the same. If you have any suggestions as in what to change or not get.
15" PowerBook SuperDrive, 1GB RAM, 60 GBs, Exter FW 60 GBs. 10.3.9
PC, AMD 64 3800 DualCore, 2.5GB RAM, HDs > 300, 300, 300, 250 GBs, 256mb PCIe 16X. Windows XP, Tiger 10.4.6.
PocketPC iPaq 4755, 4Gb CF, 3x 256MB SD Card, 4x 256MB and 1x 512MB CF Cards.
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#2 2003-01-07 11:10 pm
- Marathionman
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Re: Building another PC!!!
The only thing I see I would worry about is the power supply. I would try to get a 400W power supply instead. This is really just being on the safe side.
This is your secant computer now. Next you will be going for you A+ certification and doing this for a livening. 
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#3 2003-01-08 12:56 am
Re: Building another PC!!!
The only thing I see I would worry about is the power supply. I would try to get a 400W power supply instead. This is really just being on the safe side.
This is your secant computer now. Next you will be going for you A+ certification and doing this for a livening.
That would be cool. 
15" PowerBook SuperDrive, 1GB RAM, 60 GBs, Exter FW 60 GBs. 10.3.9
PC, AMD 64 3800 DualCore, 2.5GB RAM, HDs > 300, 300, 300, 250 GBs, 256mb PCIe 16X. Windows XP, Tiger 10.4.6.
PocketPC iPaq 4755, 4Gb CF, 3x 256MB SD Card, 4x 256MB and 1x 512MB CF Cards.
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#4 2003-01-08 11:23 am
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- From: Björk, Björk
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Re: Building another PC!!!
On the P/S issue, try THG's article on same-
http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20021021/index.html
If you can afford it, I would (and might well) go this way: a different mainboard, with the NForce2 chipset- the Abit NF7/7S, or the ASUS A7N8X...the Abit is competitive on performance and has the most tweakable BIOS going, and ASUS is just plain quality. NForce2 offers dual channel DDR, doubling memory bandwidth; Corsair PC3000C2/ C2PT (platinum colored heatspreader) will plug right in and run PC2700/DDR333 speed with aggressive timings programmed on the SPD chip, eliminating all but hardcore tweaking. For dual channel operation, get two 256 MB sticks- not cheap, but its performance will reward you. The faster the CPU, the greater the benefit to this approach.
The NF7 and basic ASUS are cheaper, with fewer features. The -S and the ASUS Deluxe version are $15-20 more. Only you know if the extra features would be worth the slight extra cost; compare carefully.
There are other boards, but these two I know and come well reviewed; and both will run much faster CPUs, so you're future-proof.
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#5 2003-01-08 1:23 pm
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Re: Building another PC!!!
Yup, I second that, get a Nforce board!
maybe instead of MX video card, get the ti200 for about same price!
Do not settle for the world in shades of grey
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#6 2003-01-08 4:23 pm
Re: Building another PC!!!
is this the one you guys talking about?
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.a … ASUS+A7N8X
let me know... and I just want to make sure, is this an 8x AGP? I think it is, but since I have the MSI G4 MX 8x, I want to take be able to use the 8x.
Thanks
15" PowerBook SuperDrive, 1GB RAM, 60 GBs, Exter FW 60 GBs. 10.3.9
PC, AMD 64 3800 DualCore, 2.5GB RAM, HDs > 300, 300, 300, 250 GBs, 256mb PCIe 16X. Windows XP, Tiger 10.4.6.
PocketPC iPaq 4755, 4Gb CF, 3x 256MB SD Card, 4x 256MB and 1x 512MB CF Cards.
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#7 2003-01-09 8:25 am
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Re: Building another PC!!!
http://usa.asus.com/mb/socketa/a7n8x/overview.htm#
it not only have agp 8x, it have 6channel audio, serial ata,firewire, support for ddr400!
I think most if not all Nforce2 board is 8x agp
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#8 2003-01-09 10:12 am
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- From: Björk, Björk
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Re: Building another PC!!!
Yup, those are the ASUS boards. The qualifier I forgot is that my RAM setup only shows its best gain on the newer Athlons with the 166/(333DDR) MHz FSB- the 2800+, 2700+, some 2600+s (those so specc'ed), and 'unlocked' Athies able to have their bus speeds and multipliers set where desired. Otherwise, there's still a gain, but a lesser one; but you're still future-proof and will get the full gain after a bit when the 2800+ price drops.
If you know how, a 2100+ can be unlocked, tho it's not as easy as unlocking a TBird. I've unlocked my 1900+.
DDR 400 is only showing gains under a few demanding pro apps that eat memory bandwidth- otherwise, synchronous bus speeds with minimum latency give best performance, and with dual-channel DDR you're already getting the bandwidth of 'PC5400/DDR666,' if there were such a thing.
Yes, they're AGP8x- that's where the '8X' in A7N8X comes from. Every NForce2 board I know has it.
Find a review of the Abit, with much about RAM, at
http://www.hexus.net/review.php?review= … amp;page=1
If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a conclusion - George Bernard Shaw
"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now, as they fly through the air."
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