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High prices my ass.

i believe apple releases updates twice a year, one big and one small. and the prices almost never come down, the models just get better. the g4 towers were dropping in price because they were losing steam with lack of power and the impending arrival of the g5. the g5s restored the old g4 prices.

...Jobs promised a 3Ghz chip by "next year", which most likely means June or July 2004...

Actually, he said, "Within a year," which probably means by the end of 2004.    Oh well... semantics.

Yes and of course, this doesn't take into account the annouce date/ship date difference.  Even if the 3Ghz G5 is announced this summer, we will just be seeing them a year from now...

probably. i seem to think apple updates each product biannually. oh, will you look at that:

i believe apple releases updates twice a year, one big and one small. and the prices almost never come down, the models just get better. the g4 towers were dropping in price because they were losing steam with lack of power and the impending arrival of the g5. the g5s restored the old g4 prices.

MacWorld Expo January 5th 2004.

HIGHLY LIKELY that current G5 Systems will be updated. Also likely that 1 system will be introducted to G5 arch. Probably the Xserve.

That's what I'm hoping for.  I gritted my teeth and made a firm decision not to buy a G5 until after the first speed-bump is available.  That means I won't be getting a "revision zero" model, it means it'll come with Panther pre-installed, it means I'll get a little more performance.

January would be great.  I could hang on until March or April if I have to, but it would hurt.  I do want that machine!

My dependable Dual 500MHz G4 is starting to lag on some programs.  A lot of the applications (OK, let's be honest: games) that I really need the extra power for haven't been released yet: they are coming over the next couple of months.  So I can afford to wait a while, I can wait for the next revision -- but not the one after that.

IBM is going to be moving to the 0.09 micron process in Feb, then the 0.06 micron probably year or so after that (heck, they are still working on .09).

So, my guess is one small update use 0.13 micron before IBM goes to 0.09, then the jump to the promised level using the new process sometime next year.

An upgrade to 19" would be sweet, but I don't think I'd want an LCD due to the price tag.

Don't you mean that you don't want an LCD because they will never be better than CRTs? The price of a 19" LCD  is steep (~$700), while you can get a quality flatscreen CRT (like Samsung's Dynaflat stuff) for like $200.

Of course, the only advantage a LCD has over a CRT is the size. Then there's the cool factor, but that nothing to do with quality of use.

-Tima

An upgrade to 19" would be sweet, but I don't think I'd want an LCD due to the price tag.

Don't you mean that you don't want an LCD because they will never be better than CRTs? The price of a 19" LCD  is steep (~$700), while you can get a quality flatscreen CRT (like Samsung's Dynaflat stuff) for like $200.

Of course, the only advantage a LCD has over a CRT is the size. Then there's the cool factor, but that nothing to do with quality of use.

-Tima

Do they have digital CRT's? DVI or ADC? Very much doubt ADC but that's really just DVI...

/me goes on the search for a DVI CRT.

I don't think so, unless the last CRT Studio Display was ADC. I'm pretty sure ADC came after the Cube, though.

Good thing that the G5 comes with a DVI to VGA adapter then.  :-)

And yeah, aside from size and power consumption, a CRT beats an LCD for sure...

Well, Apple just updated the machine I was going to buy in January.  Dual 1.8, I would call that a MAJOR speed bump! 

Now, the question is, should I buy it as a CHristmas present, or stick to my original plan and wait to see what comes out in January?  Hopefully it would only be a speed bump for the 2 GHz model, but I suspect price drops within three months as well...  Hmmmm....

That said, a dual 1.8 for 2500 is still a good buy right now, even if they drop the price by $100 in a few months.

Don't you mean that you don't want an LCD because they will never be better than CRTs? The price of a 19" LCD  is steep (~$700), while you can get a quality flatscreen CRT (like Samsung's Dynaflat stuff) for like $200.

Of course, the only advantage a LCD has over a CRT is the size. Then there's the cool factor, but that nothing to do with quality of use.

I guess everyone's entitled to their opinions, but. . . . . .

Are you outta you freakin mind?   

From what I've seen, just about every LCD display humiliates every CRT.  I'm not talking about some kind of subtle difference here, I'm talking night-and-day.  I still remember how I was floored the first time I saw a computer with a color LCD.

The brightness, contrast, and the incredible sharpness all rule in favor of the LCD.  CRTs look fuzzy compared to LCDs, and the CRTs only get fuzzier as they get older.  (Or they get dark, or develop a weird flutter, and so forth.  CRTs are often trouble-prone.)

LCD against CRT is no contest.

The fact is that all pros use CRTs, because of the obvious difference in favor of the CRT. I'm not talking about regular everyday monitors - I'm talking about the for real LaCie type stuff. There are, of course, very good LCD displays out there - but they come with a hefty price tag.

I was at my friend's house, reinstalling everything on his 15" LCD iMac - and the first thing that jumped into my eye was the quality of the display - or lack thereof. Of course the 23" HD display is amazing - but it does come with a hefty price tag. Nothing you would see on the CRT side.

-Tima