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#26 2003-10-28 3:22 pm

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

I think the Windows taskbar might be technically more useful since it does more but I don't much like it. In the Mac OS, the functionality is spread out between the menu bar, desktop, and dock. Unfortunately it requires higher resolutions to be tolerable but it's still cleaner.


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#27 2003-10-28 3:54 pm

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

And I'm a jerk. We get it. Three cheers for pcguy.

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#28 2003-10-28 4:08 pm

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

Good boy, suddenly you seem to realize India after I point it out to you, and guess what? you go on affensive as I suggest! good doggy! good! now your next assignment is to learn where to "crap"! so as not to stink up the area!


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#29 2003-10-28 4:28 pm

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

I don't feel like either of those statements represent me since I don't talk or type like a 4 year old Bangladeshi girl.

Mr. William:

1. You probably have no idea where Bangladesh is since you can't even correctly spell the name of the city.
2. You probably have no idea how well or bad a 4 year old India's girl will be able to talk or type in english.
3. You are a jerk.
4. Sorry, I take that back.
5. Nope, nevermind, you are a jerk.

1. I spelled it correctly. A person from Bangladesh is a Bangladeshi. And I do know where it is.
2. Granted, I don't know this, but I am fairly certain she would have a good chance of out-typing you.
3. I guess I'm doing something right when the troll is upset with me.
4. You're getttin soft
5. Nope, nevermind, I guess I'm doing something right when the troll is upset with me.

Well, you fail the test!

1. A person from the country of Bangladesh is call "Bangladeshis".
Since their national language is "Bengali", I doubt very much a 4 yr old would be able to spell better then me in "english"! smarter then me! perhaps!
2. If you do know anything about Bangladesh, you will realize it is not part of India. and you would have jump at the chance to correct my "mistake"!
3. Since I haven't comment on my perference in this matter, I can not be call a "troll".
4. I always get upset when I meet a "JERK", and you are!

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#30 2003-10-28 4:55 pm

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

Are pcguy and John Williams married?  These love spats always get in the way of a good thread (not that this thread qualified).  Boys take this feud to the gay and lesbian lounge not in Circuit Board.


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#31 2003-10-28 5:29 pm

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

smurf you, stupid

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#32 2003-10-28 5:38 pm

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

smurf you, stupid

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#33 2003-10-28 7:37 pm

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

Ah, good times...

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#34 2003-10-28 8:28 pm

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

I don't feel like either of those statements represent me since I don't talk or type like a 4 year old Bangladeshi girl.

Mr. William:

1. You probably have no idea where Bangladesh is since you can't even correctly spell the name of the city.

You do know that Bangladesh is a country and not a city right?  Thought I'd lend you a hand correcting folks.   wink

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#35 2003-10-28 8:45 pm

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

I'd venture to guess that at least a few of the people that voted for the Taskbar have never used the Apple-Option-Dock Icon Click before. 

This is one of the coolest features of the dock. up

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#36 2003-10-28 9:51 pm

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

Since their national language is "Bengali", I doubt very much a 4 yr old

My good friend Rashed disagrees with you. He says that his mother tongue is bangla, not bengali. I choose to believe him over you if you don't mind.


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#37 2003-10-28 10:29 pm

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

I don't feel like either of those statements represent me since I don't talk or type like a 4 year old Bangladeshi girl.

Mr. William:

1. You probably have no idea where Bangladesh is since you can't even correctly spell the name of the city.

You do know that Bangladesh is a country and not a city right?  Thought I'd lend you a hand correcting folks.   wink

You were about 15 post too late smile


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#38 2003-10-28 10:55 pm

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

Since their national language is "Bengali", I doubt very much a 4 yr old

My good friend Rashed disagrees with you. He says that his mother tongue is bangla, not bengali. I choose to believe him over you if you don't mind.

They are one and the same,

"A member of the Indo-European family of languages, Bangla (sometimes called Bengali) is the official language of Bangladesh. Bangladeshis closely identify themselves with their national language. Bangla has a rich cultural heritage in literature, music, and poetry, and at least two Bengali poets are well known in the West: Rabindranath Tagore, a Hindu and a Nobel laureate; and Kazi Nazrul Islam, a Muslim known as the "voice of Bengali nationalism and independence." Bangla has been enriched by several regional dialects. The dialects of Sylhet, Chittagong, and Noakhali have been strongly marked by Arab-Persian influences. English, whose cultural influence seemed to have crested by the late 1980s, remained nonetheless an important language in Bangladesh."


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#39 2003-10-28 11:02 pm

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

For application switching, I find that cmd-tab (OS X) or alt-tab (Windows) are far more efficient than scrolling down to the taskbar or dock to switch applications.  However, Windows allows you to tab through windows, not just apps, so I have give that one to them.  But as far as the dock vs taskbar thing goes, I'd say it's a draw.  Niether is perfect, nor is either completely useless.

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#40 2003-10-28 11:05 pm

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

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#41 2003-10-28 11:12 pm

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

Since their national language is "Bengali", I doubt very much a 4 yr old

My good friend Rashed disagrees with you. He says that his mother tongue is bangla, not bengali. I choose to believe him over you if you don't mind.

They are one and the same,

"A member of the Indo-European family of languages, Bangla (sometimes called Bengali) is the official language of Bangladesh. Bangladeshis closely identify themselves with their national language. Bangla has a rich cultural heritage in literature, music, and poetry, and at least two Bengali poets are well known in the West: Rabindranath Tagore, a Hindu and a Nobel laureate; and Kazi Nazrul Islam, a Muslim known as the "voice of Bengali nationalism and independence." Bangla has been enriched by several regional dialects. The dialects of Sylhet, Chittagong, and Noakhali have been strongly marked by Arab-Persian influences. English, whose cultural influence seemed to have crested by the late 1980s, remained nonetheless an important language in Bangladesh."

They are pretty close but they are not one and the same. Bengali is used in India while bangla in Bangladesh. It's a similar connection as the one between urdu in Pakistan and hindi in india. Most of the languages spoken in modern day subcontinent are derived from sanskrit and therefore have many similarities. I have friends that are from these three countries and from many regions in India and although they can carry regular conversation each in their native tongue they say that the languages are different; especially the written language.


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#42 2003-10-28 11:48 pm

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#43 2003-10-29 12:15 am

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

I'd venture to guess that at least a few of the people that voted for the Taskbar have never used the Apple-Option-Dock Icon Click before. 

This is one of the coolest features of the dock. up

The Apple (or Command) key is not necessary in that combination. Option-Click only.

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#44 2003-10-29 12:16 am

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

taskbar actually can hold everything on your computer easily

the dock would have to be shrunk down to microscopic to fit everything


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#45 2003-10-29 12:22 am

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

I'd venture to guess that at least a few of the people that voted for the Taskbar have never used the Apple-Option-Dock Icon Click before. 

This is one of the coolest features of the dock. up

The Apple (or Command) key is not necessary in that combination. Option-Click only.

Later, Frank

However, just using Option will only hide the application you are switching from, whereas adding Command will hide every application but the one you are switching into.


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#46 2003-10-29 12:29 am

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

I'd venture to guess that at least a few of the people that voted for the Taskbar have never used the Apple-Option-Dock Icon Click before. 

This is one of the coolest features of the dock. up

The Apple (or Command) key is not necessary in that combination. Option-Click only.

Later, Frank

Actually, you need both the command and option to hide all other programs but the one your are clicking.  I find this more useful than simply hiding the one I was just in, that's my two cents.

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#47 2003-10-29 12:31 am

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

I'd venture to guess that at least a few of the people that voted for the Taskbar have never used the Apple-Option-Dock Icon Click before. 

This is one of the coolest features of the dock. up

The Apple (or Command) key is not necessary in that combination. Option-Click only.

Later, Frank

However, just using Option will only hide the application you are switching from, whereas adding Command will hide every application but the one you are switching into.

My bad, that's what I get for replying when it is late. I only had two apps open since I'm heading to bed and I missed that.

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#48 2003-10-29 12:33 am

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

taskbar actually can hold everything on your computer easily

the dock would have to be shrunk down to microscopic to fit everything

What a load of crap.  The Task Bar is already smaller than the average Dock.  In order to fit that many items, the Task Bar would have to truncate all of them down to just having the equally tiny icon visible.  Since the Task Bar does not display the name of an item when one mouses over it, you'd be stuck with having to figure out what everything is based solely on the muddy low quality icons which are part of the Windows package.  To make matters worse, if one has application grouping shut off, and have multiple windows open in any application, you're going to end up with a bunch of nameless icons which all look the same when you get to that many items.

Sure, the Dock would be microscopic, but hardly any more microscopic than the Task Bar normally is anyways, and under a full load of items, one can still discern the name of items in the Dock because it will always display the name when moused over.  You'll also never have a bunch of icons which look exactly the same in the Dock, which makes instant visual identification even easier.


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#49 2003-10-29 12:58 am

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

you can still switch programs with the dock. althou it takes an extra click.

Umm... It only takes me one click to switch to another application.

Yeah, I tried it again. One click to Finder, one click back to Safari. Am I missing something?

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#50 2003-10-29 1:10 am

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Re: Vote, which is more useful. OsX dock vs Win task bar

What a load of crap...  In order to fit that many items, the Task Bar would have to truncate all of them down to just having the equally tiny icon visible.  Since the Task Bar does not display the name of an item when one mouses over it, you'd be stuck with having to figure out what everything is based solely on the muddy low quality icons...

True that. You should see some of the task bars the system engineers have on there Win-Boxes, with all there consoles and admin tools open for different servers, the task bar becomes horrid. Even adjusting the size of the Task Bar does not alleviate the situation, unless you seriously encroach on the usable screen real-estate.

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