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#26 2003-11-02 4:50 pm

Steyr AUG
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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

Actually I would suggest to everyone who wants to live past 25 not to try doing extasy.

Again, it's a personal choice. If you aren't doing anyhting you aren't comfortable with, then theres no problem.

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Its like playing russian roulette with a beretta, you may not kill yourself but you will end up hurting.


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#27 2003-11-02 4:52 pm

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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

But do you really feel you can make an honest assessment having never tried it before? Or have you?


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#28 2003-11-02 4:54 pm

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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

But do you really feel you can make an honest assessment having never tried it before? Or have you?

I don't have to taste arsenic to know its bad for me. Same goes for e.


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#29 2003-11-02 4:56 pm

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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

It's a party-type thing. But certainly not something to be done on a regular basis, unless you want to fry your brain.

I think everyone should try going to a (good) rave at least once. If you like to dance, it is one of the most incredible experiences. And when you're rolling on e, it becomes even more intense to a whole new level.

(Just don't become an e-tard and spend the rest of the night wasted and strung out.)

Actually I would suggest to everyone who wants to live past 25 not to try doing extasy.

Why?


1. Instill fear.
2. ???????? (use your imagination)
3. Profit!

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#30 2003-11-02 4:57 pm

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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

It's a party-type thing. But certainly not something to be done on a regular basis, unless you want to fry your brain.

I think everyone should try going to a (good) rave at least once. If you like to dance, it is one of the most incredible experiences. And when you're rolling on e, it becomes even more intense to a whole new level.

(Just don't become an e-tard and spend the rest of the night wasted and strung out.)

Actually I would suggest to everyone who wants to live past 25 not to try doing extasy.

Why?

It only takes one bad time to die


Just like back in Saigon! Eh, slick?

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#31 2003-11-02 5:02 pm

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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

It's a party-type thing. But certainly not something to be done on a regular basis, unless you want to fry your brain.

I think everyone should try going to a (good) rave at least once. If you like to dance, it is one of the most incredible experiences. And when you're rolling on e, it becomes even more intense to a whole new level.

(Just don't become an e-tard and spend the rest of the night wasted and strung out.)

Actually I would suggest to everyone who wants to live past 25 not to try doing extasy.

Why?

It only takes one bad time to die

I've never heard anyone died because of e alone.


1. Instill fear.
2. ???????? (use your imagination)
3. Profit!

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#32 2003-11-02 5:04 pm

Steyr AUG
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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

It's a party-type thing. But certainly not something to be done on a regular basis, unless you want to fry your brain.

I think everyone should try going to a (good) rave at least once. If you like to dance, it is one of the most incredible experiences. And when you're rolling on e, it becomes even more intense to a whole new level.

(Just don't become an e-tard and spend the rest of the night wasted and strung out.)

Actually I would suggest to everyone who wants to live past 25 not to try doing extasy.

Why?

It only takes one bad time to die

I've never heard anyone died because of e alone.

There were several kids here who drank themselves to death with water (water intoxication) because of e.


Just like back in Saigon! Eh, slick?

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#33 2003-11-02 5:06 pm

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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

Linkey

Two weeks ago 10-year-old Jade Slack, of Lancaster, died after she accidentally swallowed ecstasy.

Is is the BBC too liberal to quote?

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#34 2003-11-02 5:09 pm

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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

It's a party-type thing. But certainly not something to be done on a regular basis, unless you want to fry your brain.

I think everyone should try going to a (good) rave at least once. If you like to dance, it is one of the most incredible experiences. And when you're rolling on e, it becomes even more intense to a whole new level.

(Just don't become an e-tard and spend the rest of the night wasted and strung out.)

Actually I would suggest to everyone who wants to live past 25 not to try doing extasy.

Why?

It only takes one bad time to die

I've never heard anyone died because of e alone.

There were several kids here who drank themselves to death with water (water intoxication) because of e.

Was it mixed with other substance? Or was it pure e?


1. Instill fear.
2. ???????? (use your imagination)
3. Profit!

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#35 2003-11-02 5:12 pm

Steyr AUG
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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

It's a party-type thing. But certainly not something to be done on a regular basis, unless you want to fry your brain.

I think everyone should try going to a (good) rave at least once. If you like to dance, it is one of the most incredible experiences. And when you're rolling on e, it becomes even more intense to a whole new level.

(Just don't become an e-tard and spend the rest of the night wasted and strung out.)

Actually I would suggest to everyone who wants to live past 25 not to try doing extasy.

Why?

It only takes one bad time to die

I've never heard anyone died because of e alone.

There were several kids here who drank themselves to death with water (water intoxication) because of e.

Was it mixed with other substance? Or was it pure e?

Do you get to ask questions like that if you go off and do e? No you don't. You take what you buy and there is a high chance it could mess you up and kill you.


Just like back in Saigon! Eh, slick?

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#36 2003-11-02 5:25 pm

mahakali
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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

It's a party-type thing. But certainly not something to be done on a regular basis, unless you want to fry your brain.

I think everyone should try going to a (good) rave at least once. If you like to dance, it is one of the most incredible experiences. And when you're rolling on e, it becomes even more intense to a whole new level.

(Just don't become an e-tard and spend the rest of the night wasted and strung out.)

Actually I would suggest to everyone who wants to live past 25 not to try doing extasy.

Why?

It only takes one bad time to die

I've never heard anyone died because of e alone.

There were several kids here who drank themselves to death with water (water intoxication) because of e.

Was it mixed with other substance? Or was it pure e?

Do you get to ask questions like that if you go off and do e? No you don't. You take what you buy and there is a high chance it could mess you up and kill you.

High chance? Lol! Alcohol has a much higher chance to kill someone but you wouldn't go around telling people not to drink would you.


1. Instill fear.
2. ???????? (use your imagination)
3. Profit!

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#37 2003-11-02 5:31 pm

Steyr AUG
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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

It's a party-type thing. But certainly not something to be done on a regular basis, unless you want to fry your brain.

I think everyone should try going to a (good) rave at least once. If you like to dance, it is one of the most incredible experiences. And when you're rolling on e, it becomes even more intense to a whole new level.

(Just don't become an e-tard and spend the rest of the night wasted and strung out.)

Actually I would suggest to everyone who wants to live past 25 not to try doing extasy.

Why?

It only takes one bad time to die

I've never heard anyone died because of e alone.

There were several kids here who drank themselves to death with water (water intoxication) because of e.

Was it mixed with other substance? Or was it pure e?

Do you get to ask questions like that if you go off and do e? No you don't. You take what you buy and there is a high chance it could mess you up and kill you.

High chance? Lol! Alcohol has a much higher chance to kill someone but you wouldn't go around telling people not to drink would you.

Alcohol is a commercially manufactured product with standards of production e is not.


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#38 2003-11-02 5:34 pm

mahakali
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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

It's a party-type thing. But certainly not something to be done on a regular basis, unless you want to fry your brain.

I think everyone should try going to a (good) rave at least once. If you like to dance, it is one of the most incredible experiences. And when you're rolling on e, it becomes even more intense to a whole new level.

(Just don't become an e-tard and spend the rest of the night wasted and strung out.)

Actually I would suggest to everyone who wants to live past 25 not to try doing extasy.

Why?

It only takes one bad time to die

I've never heard anyone died because of e alone.

There were several kids here who drank themselves to death with water (water intoxication) because of e.

Was it mixed with other substance? Or was it pure e?

Do you get to ask questions like that if you go off and do e? No you don't. You take what you buy and there is a high chance it could mess you up and kill you.

High chance? Lol! Alcohol has a much higher chance to kill someone but you wouldn't go around telling people not to drink would you.

Alcohol is a commercially manufactured product with standards of production e is not.

That's why you think it's saver and okay to consume?


1. Instill fear.
2. ???????? (use your imagination)
3. Profit!

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#39 2003-11-02 5:42 pm

Steyr AUG
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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

It's a party-type thing. But certainly not something to be done on a regular basis, unless you want to fry your brain.

I think everyone should try going to a (good) rave at least once. If you like to dance, it is one of the most incredible experiences. And when you're rolling on e, it becomes even more intense to a whole new level.

(Just don't become an e-tard and spend the rest of the night wasted and strung out.)

Actually I would suggest to everyone who wants to live past 25 not to try doing extasy.

Why?

It only takes one bad time to die

I've never heard anyone died because of e alone.

There were several kids here who drank themselves to death with water (water intoxication) because of e.

Was it mixed with other substance? Or was it pure e?

Do you get to ask questions like that if you go off and do e? No you don't. You take what you buy and there is a high chance it could mess you up and kill you.

High chance? Lol! Alcohol has a much higher chance to kill someone but you wouldn't go around telling people not to drink would you.

Alcohol is a commercially manufactured product with standards of production e is not.

That's why you think it's saver and okay to consume?

Thats one of the reasons, here are some more:
http://165.112.78.61/NIDA_Notes/NNVol16 … rence.html


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#40 2003-11-02 5:53 pm

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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

All I have to say is Natural Selection.

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Spirit was crushed; now is fading, But I want to help make things right.
Because I can see and I can feel, and you can see and you can feel
So why don't we both either stand up and fight
Or at least together we'll call it a night.

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#41 2003-11-02 6:22 pm

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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

It's a party-type thing. But certainly not something to be done on a regular basis, unless you want to fry your brain.

I think everyone should try going to a (good) rave at least once. If you like to dance, it is one of the most incredible experiences. And when you're rolling on e, it becomes even more intense to a whole new level.

(Just don't become an e-tard and spend the rest of the night wasted and strung out.)

Actually I would suggest to everyone who wants to live past 25 not to try doing extasy.

Why?

It only takes one bad time to die

"Im the beginning the Universe was created.  This has made a lot of people angry and is generally considered to have been a bad move."


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#42 2003-11-02 6:31 pm

Tria
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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

It's a party-type thing. But certainly not something to be done on a regular basis, unless you want to fry your brain.

I think everyone should try going to a (good) rave at least once. If you like to dance, it is one of the most incredible experiences. And when you're rolling on e, it becomes even more intense to a whole new level.

(Just don't become an e-tard and spend the rest of the night wasted and strung out.)

Actually I would suggest to everyone who wants to live past 25 not to try doing extasy.

Why?

It only takes one bad time to die

"Im the beginning the Universe was created.  This has made a lot of people angry and is generally considered to have been a bad move."

"...And people were unhappy, even the ones with digital watches."

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#43 2003-11-02 6:50 pm

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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

http://www.myimgs.com/data/Tria/molecule.gif

i cant smoek taht

I'd love to see you try!

Shhh... he probably will

RDX, the main ingredient for C-4 doesn't explode when in contact with fire. It burns rather slowly. You need a detonator to make it explode.


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#44 2003-11-02 6:59 pm

Tria
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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

http://www.myimgs.com/data/Tria/molecule.gif

i cant smoek taht

I'd love to see you try!

Shhh... he probably will

RDX, the main ingredient for C-4 doesn't explode when in contact with fire. It burns rather slowly. You need a detonator to make it explode.

Spoilsport.

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#45 2003-11-03 12:53 am

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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

actually you have to compress it...explosives are all about compression


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#46 2003-11-03 12:55 am

Tria
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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

Not necessarily.  The Hindenburg created a nice explosion without compression.  (Well, actually, an implosion, but that's beside the point).

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#47 2003-11-03 1:03 am

Steyr AUG
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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

actually you have to compress it...explosives are all about compression

no, you dont have to compress RDX to make it explode


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#48 2003-11-03 2:36 am

cheesy
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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

I used to use ecstasy on occasion (last time being more than 6 months ago) and I can say they have all been rewarding experiences with very little negative consequence. AND I'm still alive doing fine in college (imagine that!). I haven't stopped though, I plan on doing it again.

As far as the details of the actual experience, if I were to use a word to describe how it felt, it would probably be along the ways of "absolute, complete love and happiness."

I also like to describe it as a 6 hour orgasm in your entire body.

The only friend of mine who does E has the rule that he'll only use it as many times as he can count one hand in a year.

From the things chronic use does to you, I'd say that's a fairly wise choice...

Agreed. My rule is "no more than once a month" which is about the same, but it keeps you from doing it too frequently.

It's a party-type thing. But certainly not something to be done on a regular basis, unless you want to fry your brain.

I think everyone should try going to a (good) rave at least once. If you like to dance, it is one of the most incredible experiences. And when you're rolling on e, it becomes even more intense to a whole new level.

(Just don't become an e-tard and spend the rest of the night wasted and strung out.)

werd. raves are amazing, they put concerts to shame. i've been to about 16 and have had an awesome time at almost all of them (and I should note that I have been sober at the majority of them). especially once you start really getting into the music and dancing a lot.

Actually I would suggest to everyone who wants to live past 25 not to try doing extasy.

and i suggest you know what you're talking about before you open you're mouth.

Its like playing russian roulette with a beretta, you may not kill yourself but you will end up hurting.

The difference between playing Russian Roulette versus doing E is a 1 in 8 chance versus a 1 in 100,000 chance:
http://www.dancesafe.org/documents/druginfo/risk.php

It only takes one bad time to die

I've never heard anyone died because of e alone.

There were several kids here who drank themselves to death with water (water intoxication) because of e.

It's called hyponatremia, and yes it's a risk if you aren't careful but it's certainly not limited to only happening with ecstasy. If you're educated and careful it is highly unlikely to happen. My base rule for water is 1 bottle per hour (of moderate exercise i.e. dancing)

A lot of times "ecstasy overdoses" are a number of ecstasy related things (e.x. hyponatremia). The dose of pure MDMA required to overdose on ecstasy is something insane like 2 grams (a typical dose is about 100mg). The biggest problem is that (like someone pointed out) it's rarely pure and always unregulated. A lot of times other things (or combinations of things) are passed off as "ecstasy" when it's really something more harmful like PMA, DXM, MDA, etc.

However, there are several ways to make sure you're getting safe pills. Trusting the person you get it from is a good start. Also you can get testing kits from dancesafe.org which will test for most of the common adulterants used. Then are number of websites with reports on pills from various areas and whats in them:

http://www.dancesafe.org/labtesting/
http://www.ecstasydata.org/
http://www.pillreports.com/

You are right that it can cause damage to the brain but really only if you use it a lot. I have a friend who started about a year ago and does it quite a bit, and he admits it has screwed up his brain and he is significantly cutting back. But he does it a LOT and he does plenty of other drugs as well.

Basically what it comes down to is just be educated and careful. Moderation is key. As long as you limit yourself to infrequent use and as long as you make sure what you're taking is of decent quality there shouldn't be any problems.


Websites:
http://www.dancesafe.org/
http://www.dancesafe.org/documents/druginfo/ecstasy.php
http://www.erowid.org/
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma.shtml
http://www.thedea.org/
http://www.bluelight.nu/
http://www.ecstasy.org/
http://www.ecstasy-effects.com/

By the way, its "methylenedioxy-n-methylamphetamine"...unless you're talking about another drug in which case we've been talking about the wrong thing for two pages smile

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#49 2003-11-03 2:43 am

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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

Was it mixed with other substance? Or was it pure e?

Whether it's the ecstasy itself or an adulterant that is dangerous is academic if you have no way of ensuring what you have is safe.

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#50 2003-11-03 2:47 am

cheesy
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Re: Metyalendioxymetamoaphetamine

Was it mixed with other substance? Or was it pure e?

Whether it's the ecstasy itself or an adulterant that is dangerous is academic if you have no way of ensuring what you have is safe.

See above. Use a source you trust, check pill databases, test your pills.

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