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#1 2003-11-02 8:27 pm

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Matrix Revolutions

Anyone going to see this on Wednesday?  I can't wait.

Yea--that's all I have to say.

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#2 2003-11-02 8:30 pm

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

i'll wait to rent the dvd. i'll pass on the stupid commercials before the movie, cell phones ringing and idiots talking during the movie and the ridiculous ticket prices.


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#3 2003-11-02 8:32 pm

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

Someway, somehow, I will see this movie in the theater, but I can say for sure when that will be.


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#4 2003-11-02 8:35 pm

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

but I can say for sure when that will be.

..and that would be when?  wink

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#5 2003-11-02 8:38 pm

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

but I can say for sure when that will be.

..and that would be when?  wink

Go get an avatar or something.  wink


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#6 2003-11-02 8:40 pm

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

Damn, I'm going home this weekend...  Maybe next weekend.

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#7 2003-11-02 8:41 pm

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

but I can say for sure when that will be.

..and that would be when?  wink

Go get an avatar or something.  wink

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#8 2003-11-02 8:45 pm

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

Hold up, it's coming out on Wednesday? Since when?


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#9 2003-11-02 8:53 pm

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

Since when?

Since a long time.  They haven't really advertised it.  I only learned that it was coming out in 2 days when a friend told me about it earlier.

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#10 2003-11-02 8:54 pm

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

I'll see it, only because I've seen the first two movies.

But I'm not holding my breath. I was pretty disappointed with Reloaded.


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#11 2003-11-02 8:57 pm

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

I'll probably see it when it's out on DVD. I was disappointed by Matrix Reloaded.

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#12 2003-11-02 8:57 pm

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#13 2003-11-02 9:00 pm

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

I'll see it, only because I've seen the first two movies.

But I'm not holding my breath. I was pretty disappointed with Reloaded.

I'll agree.


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#14 2003-11-02 9:07 pm

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

I've had my tickets for over a month now.  I'm so beond stoked, and yes, I loved Reloaded.  I thought it was even better than the first, and MUCH more intelligent as well.  My glee at hearing the word "merovingian" as part of the mythos cannot be expressed smile


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#15 2003-11-02 9:08 pm

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

You guys really didn't know it was coming out this week?  I knew like, six months ago.  Seriously.


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#16 2003-11-02 9:08 pm

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

Since when?

Since a long time.  They haven't really advertised it.  I only learned that it was coming out in 2 days when a friend told me about it earlier.

Well I don't think I'll be seeing it on Wednesday since I have school the next morning, but I will try and see it as soon as I can. I saw Reloaded at a sneak preview the night before it was officially coming out. That was a good time.


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#17 2003-11-02 10:02 pm

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

i saw reloaded 10pm the night before (like many people).  but, no theater in st louis is having a midnite showing of revolutions, bastards.  now, i'm gonna have to wait till the weekend  mad

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#18 2003-11-02 10:27 pm

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

they better explain a lot in revolutions or people are going to be pissed


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#19 2003-11-02 11:24 pm

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

I've had my tickets for over a month now.  I'm so beond stoked, and yes, I loved Reloaded.  I thought it was even better than the first, and MUCH more intelligent as well.  My glee at hearing the word "merovingian" as part of the mythos cannot be expressed smile

Well, there was only one problem with the movie:

THEY smurfing TOOK STAR WARS EP. 1, AND REPLACED LIGHTSABERS WITH BULLET TIME. That was the one problem with it.

Oh yeah, and it had 1.5 billion fight scenes in it. I'm serious. I'm not even over exagerating... or anything...


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#20 2003-11-02 11:41 pm

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

Who else thought the 'special effects' looked poopy? I agree with the Star Wars Episode 1 comparison, mainly because the fight sequences felt ridiculous, rather than wonderful and exciting.

Characters with personality are nowhere to be found in Matrix. The whole thing feels cheesy, and bad cheese. Reloaded had so much bullsmurf pseudo-intellectual mumbo jumbo, it reeked of pretension.

I was laughing quite hard at the the 'Architect' scene. Absolute smurf. I'd rather watch James Lipton slobber over Tom Hanks for an hour than watch that scene again.

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#21 2003-11-03 12:48 am

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

I was laughing quite hard at the the 'Architect' scene. Absolute smurf. I'd rather watch James Lipton slobber over Tom Hanks for an hour than watch that scene again.

Haha, I agree. I rather enjoyed the architect scene, though it was way over the top. "How many forced intellectual phrases can we squeeze into this?"

The MTV Movie awards spoof of it was spot on. big_smile

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#22 2003-11-03 1:29 am

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

I've had my tickets for over a month now.  I'm so beond stoked, and yes, I loved Reloaded.  I thought it was even better than the first, and MUCH more intelligent as well.  My glee at hearing the word "merovingian" as part of the mythos cannot be expressed smile

Well, there was only one problem with the movie:

THEY smurfing TOOK STAR WARS EP. 1, AND REPLACED LIGHTSABERS WITH BULLET TIME. That was the one problem with it.

Oh yeah, and it had 1.5 billion fight scenes in it. I'm serious. I'm not even over exagerating... or anything...

No one's forcing you to like it.  Half the people who dislike it say it was nothing but fight scenes, the other half say it was all talk and no go.  Either way, no one is forcing you to like it.  I, personally, felt it was perfectly paced with lots of philosophy and lots of action without teetering into too much of either one.
I don't really see your comparison to Ep. 1 because plot-wise they're nothing alike except they share the genre of sci-fi, but hey, you're welcome to believe what you wish.
Also, if you didn't understand the Architect scene that's fine, but go look up the words and how they expanded and simultaneously changed the entire mythos and how you had percieved it previous to that scene before you deride it.  I heard so many people bitch about it because they only understood every other word of that scene and my response to them was the same as my response to you: read a book and build a vocabulary and then re-watch it.  It's an awesome scene that must have taken weeks to write.  It's not the filmmaker's fault that you expected to be spoon-fed everything in the film, especially when the entire plot revolves around "expanding your mind."  If you really want to know what was going on, examine the actual words of the architect scene, the meaning and revolution of Pi, who the Merovingians were (and why he's French), who Persephone was, and think of what else happens in cycles.  THEN maybe you'll get a better grasp and not just write it off as "absolute smurf" before you ever had the hope of understanding it.


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#23 2003-11-03 1:54 am

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I actually am big into philsophy and existentialism and whatnot, and have read transcripts of the architect speech a few times. I give it credit for being expertly written and thought through, but it does seem a bit pretentious and forced upon the audience. Also, to put such a thing into the type of movie that The Matrix Reloaded puported to be seemed kind of silly. I could understand if it was an art film of some sort, but to place it in a mainstream "action movie," which is marketed as such, and then expect the "action movie" demographic to appreciate it is just asking for trouble.

I think the claims that it was too much action and nothing else, and the claims that it was too much philosophy and nothing else, are nonsense. I think its too much of both. It was still a very enjoyable movie for me, but the story line beats you with philosophy, and not just that, but its not much "think about it, and decide for yourself" philosophy like in the first movie. It's "here's an explanation of things, like who the Oracle is and what Neo is, in philosophical terms." The action was excellent, but the only thing that paused it was the speeches of philosophical plot development. There is a guiding principle is most forms of entertainment: you give the audience something full of intensity or information, and you provide a psychological break. It's a game of tension and release. If you have half solid action and half solid philosophy, it doesn't work. You can't claim the philosophy to be a break from the action, because you're still not breaking the fundamental psychological tension. In games, you have an intense battle and then a period where the user can just relax. In music you don't have a wall of sound through the whole album. After you have a particularly loud and abrasive section, you taper it off and let the listener have a (perhaps very momentary) break. In art, tons of detail is often offset by a very simplistic area of the artwork. It allows these things to flow and be enjoyable, instead of being deemed "too hard," "just noise," or "visually chaotic," respectively.

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#24 2003-11-03 2:19 am

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

The matrix ownz j00.


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#25 2003-11-03 2:42 am

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Re: Matrix Revolutions

I'll see it, only because I've seen the first two movies.

But I'm not holding my breath. I was pretty disappointed with Reloaded.

Ditto.
i really liked the first, didn't like the second.
I suspect the failure of the second is why they aren't heavily advertising this one.

I don't know how much money it made - but I'm sure it was well below expectations. People like me who were planning to see it several times almost decided to leave during the second, and then wished they had followed through when they didn't.

Hopefully revolutions will be better.


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