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#2 2003-12-02 8:14 pm
Re: burned dvds don't work in my mac
you can mount them but can't read all the folders?
thats weird, or can you just not even mount them at all
what errors are you getting
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#3 2003-12-02 8:22 pm
- Marc
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Re: burned dvds don't work in my mac
might it be the differances between +R and -R? or are they just dirty?
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#5 2003-12-02 8:35 pm
Re: burned dvds don't work in my mac
this page explains the difference
http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#4.3
this one section covers that, the page is also huge (over 1/2 MB of html) so it takes a while to load
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#6 2003-12-02 8:45 pm
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Re: burned dvds don't work in my mac
If they are +R I think you are out of luck.
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#7 2003-12-02 8:47 pm
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Re: burned dvds don't work in my mac
What DVD drive are you using to read it? Internal Superdrive? External something?
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#10 2003-12-03 12:19 am
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Re: burned dvds don't work in my mac
Had yesterday same kind of problem like you maru!!
"when i press play in dvd player it says "Not permitted." when i try to open the video_ts file it brings up the error "could not detect a valid medi file [-70001]"
The funny part was that the disk was burned with the same superdrive just before mounting!! This disk however played nicely with my stand-alone DVD-player. All other DVD+R disks have worked with my iMac also so this must be fault of this one disk.
done with:
17" FP iMac with Sony +/- superdrive and Verbatim DVD+R
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#12 2003-12-03 2:19 am
Re: burned dvds don't work in my mac
Um... maybe because the Superdrive is "-R" ?
A Mac Genuis told me this when I went to purchase DVDRs and I just checked to be sure.
http://www.apple.com/creative/resources/superdrive/
Just bringing it up... don't shoot the messenger. 
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#13 2003-12-03 4:05 am
- JuhaN
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Re: burned dvds don't work in my mac
Um... maybe because the Superdrive is "-R" ?
A Mac Genuis told me this when I went to purchase DVDRs and I just checked to be sure.
http://www.apple.com/creative/resources/superdrive/
Just bringing it up... don't shoot the messenger.
Some superdrives are made by Pioneer and those are DVD-R only! I have a new 17" flatpanel iMac which has Sony made superdrive and that can read/write all DVD+/-R(W) formats.
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#14 2003-12-03 9:45 am
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Re: burned dvds don't work in my mac
Yes, and Apple disabled the "+" readability and burning abilities of these drives.
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#16 2003-12-03 10:54 am
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Re: burned dvds don't work in my mac
For those of us not up to speed... +/-
There's really not much more to it. Two different types of disks: DVD-R and DVD+R. Some players only work with -, some only work with +, and some work with both. Apple's are - only.
...I have a new 17" flatpanel iMac which has Sony made superdrive and that can read/write all DVD+/-R(W) formats...
Never heard that before.
...Apple disabled the "+" readability and burning abilities of these drives.
I have heard that before.
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#17 2003-12-03 11:40 am
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Re: burned dvds don't work in my mac
For those of us not up to speed... +/-
There's really not much more to it. Two different types of disks: DVD-R and DVD+R. Some players only work with -, some only work with +, and some work with both. Apple's are - only.
...I have a new 17" flatpanel iMac which has Sony made superdrive and that can read/write all DVD+/-R(W) formats...
Never heard that before.
...Apple disabled the "+" readability and burning abilities of these drives.
I have heard that before.
This is interesting....
I did some testing with my iMac and DVD+/-Rs. I have burned successfully DVD-R, DVD+R and DVD-RW discs with Toast 6 Titanium. I haven't tested DVD+RW. I use MacOS 10.3.1.
DVD-R and -RW discs are playable in apple DVD player but my DVD+Rs are not. They give the error noted before. However VLC can play these DVD+Rs nicely in my 17" FP iMac (Superdrive = Sony DW-U10A).
edit: Tried one disc more... Same kind of Verbatim DVD+R than those that didn't work. BOOM! Apple DVD player started and showed disc menu... This disc was made with PC, DVD Shrink and HP DVD+R/RW drive. Those that didn't work were made with DVD Backup, DVD2OneX, Toast 6 Titanium and my own Mac... What could I be doing wrong??
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#18 2003-12-03 12:11 pm
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Re: burned dvds don't work in my mac
I was just checking xlr8yourmac.com and you're definitely correct. People are burning and reading +Rs with the Sony. Pretty spiffy. So why doesn't yours work? What speed are you burning? If 4x, try burning at 1X or 2X.
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#19 2003-12-03 12:14 pm
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Re: burned dvds don't work in my mac
I was just checking xlr8yourmac.com and you're definitely correct. People are burning and reading +Rs with the Sony. Pretty spiffy. So why doesn't yours work? What speed are you burning? If 4x, try burning at 1X or 2X.
Thats the first thing I thought I should do. Those discs are compatible with 4xspeed but I have to try to burn 2x instead...
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#20 2003-12-03 12:50 pm
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Re: burned dvds don't work in my mac
Can't they all just agree on an industry standard already? I'm getting nauseous reading this. 
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#21 2003-12-03 2:50 pm
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Re: burned dvds don't work in my mac
Not that I endorse this but....
In the past I was known to rip DVDs and then reauthor them. I would rip them (smartripper), re author them (Spruce Up), and then burn them (nero) and all of them gave me a similar issue that you are getting. My only solution was to not watch them on my Mac.
Keep in mind this was prior to the release of Panther so I haven't tried playing one in my current machine and with the new tools I haven't made a DVD that way in a while either.
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#22 2003-12-03 3:32 pm
Re: burned dvds don't work in my mac
For those of us not up to speed... +/-
There's really not much more to it. Two different types of disks: DVD-R and DVD+R. Some players only work with -, some only work with +, and some work with both. Apple's are - only.
Well, I guess we didn't really want ease of use and compatibility. Can they add a spec for DVD/R DVD\R and DVD#R none of which works with other players too.
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#23 2003-12-03 4:38 pm
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Re: burned dvds don't work in my mac
Maru, do you have panther? Panther is required to access all of those funny DVD formats.
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